Frick league Minor League Organizations Ranking

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Frick league Minor League Organizations Ranking

Post by allenciox » Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:58 pm

Awhile back, I did a post on UMEBA Minor League Organization rankings. Now that I am in the BBA, and since the draft is coming up, I thought I would do a "pre-draft" version for BBA. In this post, I will focus on the Frick league. I plan to do another on the Johnson league, but since I am in the Frick, they get to go first.

Essentially, what I did was, for each division, for each franchise, to count all the players for each POT rating, that are:

1. Not on the major league team (and generally qualify for rookie status, so Borges for LBC was NOT counted, even though he is technically on the AAA club currently)
2. Less than 26 years old

Note that this DOES include players that are on injured reserve or in the International complex. I have also broken it out by 1) all non-Relief pitchers, and 2) all relief pitchers. This is because good relief pitchers are inherently less valuable.

In the tables below, the heading indicates the POT rating --- I have grouped 75 and 80 potentials together, as well as all potentials less than 40. You will notice these are in two "sets" ( a left-hand set and a right-hand set): the first set corresponds to all non-relief pitchers, and the second for all relief pitchers. Underneath each of the POT categories, I have estimated how many "points" a player of this potential is worth (you may disagree with my point assignments --- well, you can copy the data into your own spreadsheet and modify the points as you see fit!) Then I have the teams in the division, one team per line, ranked by total points. These are calculated by simply summing up the total number of players for each POT rating multiplied by the weighting for each one.

Here is the table for the Heartland Division:
75+70656055504540<4075+70656055504540'<40Tot
15106.54210.50.250.17.553.3210.50.30.20.07Pts
DM23142020100123386.4
YS9221718299312239113177.5
NSH121031437941851766.2
OMA112156217411753.5
CHI117171874125761451.4
LOU254192468111471251.2
MAD4481410011113433.8
TWC13543861163431.1
Total4187143710720668910237113039192451.2
Here is the same table for teams in the Pacific division:
75+70656055504540<4075+70656055504540<40Tot
15106.54210.50.250.17.553.3210.50.30.20.07Pts
POR21222171410114191491.4
SAC111341431632155771572.2
VAN12224181710741064.8
VAL1122692290134157.6
SEA12512169812136.9
LBC14920974263135.6
SFB124915105242233.6
HAW1231320691122132.0
Total248915319115573000315152029175424.2

Rather than just considering ranks, the results show some "bunching together" at different levels, which I will call "tiers".

Tier 1: This includes two teams: Portland (the overall "best" system by these rankings, with 91.4 points) and Des Moines (with 86.4 points). Unsurprisingly, these teams have been low performers for the past several years and generally get the top draft picks --- Portland's best record in its six-year history is 68-94 while Des Moines hasn't been to the playoffs in 36 years. Based on these results, however, with good management, that could change in the future. They both have very solid cores of talent rising through the ranks, and both teams have plenty of room under the salary cap to fill out their rosters with top FA talent.

Tier 2: Yellow Springs Nine (77.5) and Sacramento Mad Popes (72.2). Well, these aren't bottom dwellers. Sacramento has had a couple of seasons out of the playoffs, after twelve straight playoff appearances. It looks like their "rebuild" is going quite nicely. We could expect them to rebound in the next several years. As to Yellow Springs, I guess this is why RonCo does so well year after year. Despite a low draft position every year in the last seventeen (except one) they somehow manage to still have one of the top minor league systems in the game. I fully intend to be a "fly on the wall" to see how he does it.

Tier 3: Nashville (66.2) and Vancouver (64.8). Two teams that generally have a record close to .500 without dominating in either direction. Notably, Nashville has not had a losing record since 2040 (and even then they were 79-83). Yet they only made the playoffs once in the last twenty years. Vancouver also tends to hover near the .500 mark (except for a particularly bad year in 2044 and a good one in 2041) but has only made the playoffs once in the last fifteen years. They have the potential to possibly put things together to exceed traditional mediocrity.

Tier 4: This "middle" tier contains four teams: Valencia(57.6), Omaha(53.5), Chicago (51.4) and Louisville (51.2). With the exception of Valencia, these are teams that have generally been playoff teams the last several years. Being middle-of-the-pack here, for a traditional playoff team, is an indication of good management as they haven't had to completely tear up their minor league systems to make the playoffs. We will see if Chicago, under new management, can maintain this position.

Tier 5: The remaining six teams are in the bottom tier: Seattle (36.9), Long Beach (35.6), Madison (33.8), San Francisco Bears (33.6), Hawaii (32), and Twin Cities (31.1). One thing to note here is how bunched all these teams are and how much of a drop-off there is from tier 4 (the lowest team in tier 4 has almost 15 more points than the highest team in this tier). One thing I notice about this tier is the remarkable inconsistency these teams experience from year to year: For instance, Long Beach went from one of the worst records in 2043 (67-95) to one of the best in 2044 (100-62). This suggests to me that these are teams that function in a cyclical basis (similar to many real ballclubs in the major leagues): These are the wheeler-dealers: Sell off prospect talent to have good seasons, and then go through a period of rebuilding until the next surge.

Some other notable tidbits:

1. The Johnson division came out somewhat worse in this measure than the Heartland (424 points compared to 451), even though the Heartland has generally had more playoff teams in recent years, resulting in lower draft picks. This might indicate some GMs in the Heartland that have and are willing to put in more time to fine-tune their minor league organization.

2. Most teams in Frick generally shun minor league relief pitching prospects, with very little effort towards quality in this area. There are three notable exceptions, with the following point totals for relief pitching: Yellow Springs (22.0), Sacramento (20.6) and, to a slightly lesser extent: Chicago (12.0). These three teams constitute a full 50% of all the relief pitching "points" for all sixteen teams.

3. The overwhelming majority of minor league players probably have limited potential to ever play in the majors: 67% of the relief pitchers and 64.2% of everybody else across the sixteen teams have a POT less than 40. I mean, there is the "once in a blue moon" effect, but this is interesting. The overall percentages here are about the same as (if not worse than) the UMEBA. Keep in mind that this does include the International Complex, however, and that might make up a substantial amount of these.

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Re: Frick league Minor League Organizations Ranking

Post by aaronweiner » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:31 pm

This is very impressive, especially as a first contribution. Nicely done.

Looking forward to future work.

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Post by njherdfan » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:35 pm

This was a great read, thanks for writing it!
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Post by RonCo » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:01 pm

Nice. I like the splitting of relief pitchers out. I've never been very comfortable with my method there.

I do it by focusing on playing time and keeping guys in reasonable age brackets overall. Or at least, that's what I think I do. Ultimately I can't discount the luck factor, too. It's getting tougher now that other guys are focusing on the minors more, too. Damned these other guys.
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Re: Frick league Minor League Organizations Ranking

Post by CTBrewCrew » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:57 pm

Interesting read, speaking for the Tier 4 Group, I liken us to the Group W bench. (Note only the old timers may get that reference). It would interesting to tie this back into trades per tier/team to see how that pans out. For Madison, we don't really trade much, but our ranking could be due to the rush to get those "better" players up to the BBA in order to stay competitive. Your theory makes perfect sense for TWC, who emptied the cupboards to make the run in 2045.

Good stuff...
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Post by shoeless.db » Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:03 pm

This is an interesting look. I also like the separation of relievers.

I enjoy parsing out the future in the minors, especially with the current talent distribution. Five tool position players are extremely rare right now. I’m going out on a limb and stating there are fewer than three players per position in all the minors which, if fully developed, would end up in the top half of current BBA talent.

I’m looking forward to the inevitable slow talent drop coming on the horizon.
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Re: Frick league Minor League Organizations Ranking

Post by allenciox » Fri Mar 05, 2021 7:00 pm

shoeless.db wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:03 pm
This is an interesting look. I also like the separation of relievers.

I enjoy parsing out the future in the minors, especially with the current talent distribution. Five tool position players are extremely rare right now. I’m going out on a limb and stating there are fewer than three players per position in all the minors which, if fully developed, would end up in the top half of current BBA talent.

I’m looking forward to the inevitable slow talent drop coming on the horizon.
Yeah, one thing I find striking is how many of these are projected to be "above replacement" players. Looking through the league, it seems that 45 is about replacement level in the BBA, whereas it is about 40 in the UMEBA.

But in Frick, in the minors, here is the breakdown for non-RPs:

75+: 6
70: 5
65: 16
60: 16
55: 29
50: 68
Total: 140 or 6.6% of the total, and half of those have a 50 potential. Plus, not all the players will reach their potential (although there are also some lower players that will exceed theirs to compensate). Still, that is less than 9 per team, (and only 4.5 per team above 50 potential).

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