recte44 has entered the room. 7:01 pm
Invitation result for buddy mrbornac : mrbornac is not available. 7:01 pm
Aaron Weiner (BIR) (Wash Sea Dogs) has entered the room. 7:02 pm
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:02 pm
So, should we co-chair this thing?
recte44 7:02 pm
sure. I'll be back and forth.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) (BrdAndCnfsd) has entered the room. 7:02 pm
recte44 7:02 pm
There's only a couple people available right now.
Hey Brett!
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:02 pm
hello
recte44 7:03 pm
i don't think we're going to get a HUGE turnout, but there should be a few
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:03 pm
Hey
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:03 pm
as long as people pop in and out while they have time it should be fun
recte44 7:03 pm
so Brett, what do you need?
I'm thinking I want to find a new home for Brent Gates (2B) tonight
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:03 pm
haha
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:04 pm
i need a SS
not a 2B
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:04 pm
I know what I need. I need people to not take me to $14 million on Javy Cordero.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:04 pm
he sure is the big fish pitcher
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:04 pm
Yeah, but that's a whale
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:04 pm
hes going to get paid
recte44 7:04 pm
Free agency= an exercise in overpaying players.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:05 pm
I, on the other hand, am getting outbid by phantoms in the EBA.
mrbornac has been invited. 7:05 pm
Invitation result for buddy mrbornac : mrbornac is not available. 7:05 pm
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:05 pm
for some of the guys
mrbornac@gmail.com has been invited. 7:05 pm
Matthew Bornac (BUF) (mrbornac@gmail.com) has entered the room. 7:05 pm
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:05 pm
o/
recte44 7:05 pm
Matt! Welcome!
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:06 pm
hey guys
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:06 pm
Hey
recte44 7:06 pm
Turkell signed by Hawaii, what do you guys think of that?
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:06 pm
I thought about it, but the guy's a terrible defensive player.
recte44 7:06 pm
Turrell, that is
Hawaii certainly doesnt give much credo to defense.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:06 pm
No.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:07 pm
yeah, looks like a good hitter, but an iron glove
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:07 pm
thats a long deal for an older guy
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:07 pm
that too
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:07 pm
I was pretty close to going after him myself - I got one of the EBA guys
recte44 7:07 pm
I liked Huerta to Carolina a lot, though
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:07 pm
yes
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:07 pm
Oh, yeah, that made sense
recte44 7:07 pm
Yeah, you got Petit.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:07 pm
Right, Petit.
recte44 7:07 pm
Larry Wilkes to Chicago?
bargain price, I thought
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:07 pm
the player option on the turrell deal is a killer on the 4th year
recte44 7:08 pm
Turrell -11.2 zone rating at third base last year.
recte44 7:08 pm
Check out this stat:
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:08 pm
A really underrated player. If I knew he'd be that cheap I might not have dealt with you, Matt.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:08 pm
is he really gonna play him at 3rd?
recte44 7:08 pm
They let Alphonso Torres play 117 games in left field last year. He had a zone rating of, wait for it....
-34.8!!!
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:08 pm
wow
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:08 pm
Ewwwwwww.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:09 pm
sweet jesus\
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:09 pm
dont think i had anyone that bad thankfully
recte44 7:09 pm
But wait, there's more:
Kuan Liao -11.2 in Right Field
center field at about 0.0
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:10 pm
And yet they were tearing it up in the second half. What does that mean?
recte44 7:10 pm
That's a BAD defensive outfield.
It means, if they would shore up their defense, they are a sleeper team. Quickly.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:11 pm
but you can't hide bad defensive players in this league - the guys who were giving him the offense i assume
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:11 pm
well, they can't both get Alphonso Torres' bat and defense...that guy's the worst defender in the majors.
recte44 7:11 pm
You can only have one, really. Gotta throw him at first base.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:12 pm
Yeah. So who wants to talk turkey?
anyone looking for anything in specific?
recte44 7:12 pm
If you really want to stretch it, you can hide another in left field next to a plus centerfielder; or at third base next to a rangy shortstop
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:12 pm
Greedo
recte44 7:12 pm
Specifically, I want to drop a little salary and get some prospects
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:12 pm
just cut him and let me sign him
haha
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:13 pm
is it me, or is no one wanting to give up prospects right now?
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:13 pm
I gave up a couple little ones to Recte for the stopgap 1B
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:13 pm
seems like most people sound like Recte - trim some salary and get a little younger
recte44 7:13 pm
Some will. It's tougher though
People are starting to overvalue prospects.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:13 pm
theres not a lot of really good prospects
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:14 pm
I am mostly just trying to find arms for my bullpen - and since that is not a place to give up prospects for it, I have limited deals available atm
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:14 pm
i wanna see who picks up klingenbeck
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:14 pm
there are several things wrong with my team, but the RP is the worst
recte44 7:14 pm
There's plenty of good prospects, there's not a lot of "Cant Miss" prospects. This is what people have been slow to pick up on.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:15 pm
I dont want to see anyone pick up Klingenbeck
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:15 pm
haha
bradb74 has been invited. 7:15 pm
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:15 pm
I do want to see someone run out to pick up Ken Gladden on a flier though - someone in this room wants him I know it
recte44 7:16 pm
nope.
Brad Browne (MRQ) (bradb74) has entered the room. 7:16 pm
recte44 7:16 pm
Gladden would be a perfect EBA guy.
Hey Brad!
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:16 pm
i doubt I will get compensation for that though!
hey brad
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:16 pm
hey there
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:17 pm
blowing ur team up even more?
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:17 pm
Hi Brad.
jimrob2232 has been invited. 7:17 pm
jimrob2232 has entered the room. 7:17 pm
recte44 7:17 pm
Jim's here!
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:18 pm
now its a party
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:18 pm
Bear with me, who's BRDandcnfsd?
jimrob2232 7:18 pm
woo
recte44 7:18 pm
Don't get to talk to New Orleans too much, looking forward to this!!!
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:18 pm
say wha?
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:18 pm
who dis?
recte44 7:18 pm
Who's Brett?
jimrob2232 7:18 pm
yeah!
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:18 pm
i get no respect
recte44 7:18 pm
Just call him "California".
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:18 pm
Brett who?
I thought your name was bob.
recte44 7:18 pm
so Jim, you trading Tipper?
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:19 pm
you will rue the day you get anything through UPS
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:19 pm
I am going to call Brad Mr. Pink tonight, that work for everyone?
jimrob2232 7:19 pm
nope!
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:19 pm
and I'll call you assclown
jimrob2232 7:19 pm
and not trading morales either
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:19 pm
just like old times!
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:19 pm
i want to see tipper and bopper play together
jimrob2232 7:19 pm
well then trade me bopper
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:20 pm
sure
you can have him
recte44 7:20 pm
Jim, what do you need? Looks like you could use either a 2B or a SS (with Jacinto moving to SS)
jimrob2232 7:20 pm
yep...pretty much....or a 3B.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:20 pm
How many teams couldn't use a SS or 2B?
jimrob2232 7:20 pm
and probably need a good SP/MR
recte44 7:20 pm
http://baseballretrospective.com/MBBA/O ... _2772.html
http://baseballretrospective.com/MBBA/O ... _2910.html
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:21 pm
I was hoping Spitulski was on, I want to acquire this guy: http://baseballretrospective.com/MBBA/O ... _3335.html
jimrob2232 7:21 pm
but honestly im pretty happy with my team right now
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:21 pm
I also need someone who can play shortstop and doesn't take geritol.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:22 pm
come on Brad, you know you want Javy
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:22 pm
i could be talked into moving Orm
jimrob2232 7:22 pm
will you trade him back to me for weisberger?
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:22 pm
not likely
what happened to that guy
jimrob2232 7:22 pm
that flopped...
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:23 pm
Heh. People were wondering why I didn't seem to mind that trade.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:23 pm
Orm's got some good ratings.
YOungling too
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:23 pm
Orm is good
i didnt say hed be cheap
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:23 pm
I was pretty sure California won that one from the start...Weisberger flopping was just a double whammy.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:24 pm
i never imagined hed fail that badly
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:24 pm
Brad - I could trade Savaikie, but if that happens, I would need an equal skilled 2B or 3B in return
jimrob2232 7:24 pm
it was a great trade at the time, i needed pitching
recte44 7:24 pm
Maybe a three way deal, MRQ and BUF, Savaikie to MRQ, Gates to BUF, prospects to me
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:25 pm
i would need to drain some salary if that were to take place
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:26 pm
Not sure I"m sold enough on him to trade prospects. He's cheaper but his rtaings aren't much better than what I got.
recte44 7:27 pm
I might be in the market for a centerfielder tonight, too.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:27 pm
you no like the slizz
?
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:27 pm
I thought Slizz was the second coming of Jes…er…Tebow!
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:28 pm
the price is not bad on the Super Slizz, not a superstar, but a nice fit
recte44 7:28 pm
Slizz does ok, but he's coming off a subpar season.
I wouldn't mind a little more offense there
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:29 pm
haha power just went out in san fran for the monday night game
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:29 pm
woops
jimrob2232 7:30 pm
Any interest http://baseballretrospective.com/MBBA/O ... _6408.html
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:30 pm
1989?
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:30 pm
what are you looking for there Jimmy? He is a descent OF
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:30 pm
hes so not a CF
recte44 7:31 pm
Yeah, I might make a play for Cuellar if I were to play him in LF and try Vallejo in CF
jimrob2232 7:31 pm
not sure...he is a backup for me. SP/MR/SS or prospect
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:31 pm
hed make a good left fielder. looks like he kills lefty pitching
recte44 7:31 pm
yeah, he's a short end platoon guy/ 4th OF type on a good team
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:31 pm
Listening to sportscaster while on TV reminds me of the '89 earthquake.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:32 pm
i was 4 years old
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:32 pm
dang I'm old.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:32 pm
jebus
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:32 pm
I was a freshman in HS.
wait a Sophomore, that was fall of '89.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:32 pm
I just turned 39 yesterday - that was what, my sophomore year of HS maybe?
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:32 pm
you guys make me feel so young
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:32 pm
I was eleven and more into the earthquake than the series
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:32 pm
I was intro'ing Recte to this "computer baseball" thing.
recte44 7:32 pm
yeah, I was a junior
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:32 pm
Earl Weaver 1.5
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:32 pm
i was all about Microleague and fantasy baseball then
recte44 7:32 pm
Rocking EWB and Hardball
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:33 pm
maybe some EWB and Hardball yeah
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:33 pm
Kim Jong Il cut the power.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:33 pm
i love how he worked himself to death
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:33 pm
he was just lonely
alh00t has been invited. 7:33 pm
Al Hoot (alh00t) has entered the room. 7:33 pm
recte44 7:33 pm
Al Hoot in the house!
Al Hoot 7:33 pm
howdy
recte44 7:34 pm
You missed out on our Hawaii's defense discussion earlier.
Al Hoot 7:34 pm
o great
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:34 pm
howdy Al
recte44 7:34 pm
Torres worst defensive season I've ever seen.
Al Hoot 7:34 pm
I have Tim McGraw to trade for cheap
recte44 7:34 pm
Liau isn't much above terrible either.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:35 pm
Hi Al.
recte44 7:35 pm
And then you add Turrell, one of the worst defensive third basemen. Don't you care about defense there in the islands?
recte44 7:35 pm
McGraw, I've always coveted. Now that he's cheap, I can't afford his salary
Al Hoot 7:35 pm
nope, not really - just hitting, give the fans something to watch
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:36 pm
I'd want McGraw, but I'm kind of set.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:36 pm
McGraw has decent ratings at SS.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:36 pm
He'd just be depth at this point
Al Hoot 7:36 pm
and 2b
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:37 pm
definitely MUCH MUCH stronger @ 2B. I'm singularly focused on SS at the moment myself.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:37 pm
I'm too happy with Little Dude. League average for dirt cheap.
recte44 7:37 pm
McGraw can help someone out, but there'd have to be some kind of a salary swap involved.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:38 pm
dang he aint' cheap.
Al Hoot 7:38 pm
hey i didnt sign THAT contract
recte44 7:38 pm
Brett, you can't seriously be going with Berrios at catcher, are you?
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:39 pm
no i'll probably pick up a free agent catcher
but either way catcher is my 8 hitter
so im not too concerned
Al Hoot 7:39 pm
hey when is tonight's export officially due?
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:39 pm
He and I chatted a bit about it. You can find serviceable catchers pretty easily on the FA market.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:39 pm
I got a .324 hitter that way a couple years back before Avila.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:39 pm
Actually, this is an unusually good year for catchers.
Last year you couldn't find a AAA catcher.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:41 pm
I've always been able to find good ones.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:41 pm
It's kind of a weird year for me...I have players who play okay but who don't have implicit trade value.
Like Shawn Boskie and Xavier Escribia
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:41 pm
I could move Darrell Dowdle if someone's game.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:43 pm
Yea I think we're moving towards more realism that way. Donagan has a .289 average but he really doesn't have much trade value out there these days.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:43 pm
I suppose I could talk about Pat Larkin if anyone's looking for a .300 hitting catcher.
Totally true.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:43 pm
http://baseballretrospective.com/MBBA/O ... _2000.html
29 years old, makes less than 1M. Career .818 OPS. Not a bad player but he's an OF so easier to find OFers
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:43 pm
and the guy's hit really well the last few years.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:43 pm
well, the last two
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:44 pm
Look at his numbers splits.
I play him in almost a strict platoon. I've platooned in RF now the past two years and the total numbers are actually quite nice.
Al Hoot 7:45 pm
yeah he's def soft on lefties
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:45 pm
Yeah, but he's got a twelve contact and ten eye rating. The .800 OPS doesn't make sense.
recte44 7:45 pm
Export officially due by 8:30pm Central
Al Hoot 7:45 pm
ty
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:45 pm
and that's his rating against righties
recte44 7:45 pm
Oh yeah, Sheehan now the #1 prospect in the MBBA (BIR)
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 7:46 pm
Buffalo is going to sign all the guys I have offers out for tonight right?
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:46 pm
I've been doign very little in terms of FA signing. Costs are just too high for me for their ages. I'm not signing a 34 year old to a 6-year deal.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:46 pm
Depends on who it is. I might try to sign some of them.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:46 pm
Hawaii has gone a bit of gangbusters.
Al Hoot 7:46 pm
gangbuster what?
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:47 pm
those prices should come down closer towards spring training
recte44 7:47 pm
I can't do much in FA other than target minor league depth
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:47 pm
that's what I'm doing.
BlkCmdn has been invited. 7:47 pm
Blake Camden (BlkCmdn) has entered the room. 7:47 pm
recte44 7:47 pm
hey Blake!
Blake Camden 7:47 pm
Hi
Al Hoot 7:47 pm
oh nevermind, I thought u said I had a bunch of gangbusters
hi
jimrob2232 has left the room. 7:48 pm
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:48 pm
oh sorry now hawaii Carolina
For some reason I am thinking of the goof that was in Hawaii awhile back that bailed on the team.
Went and wrecked it like he thought he was building a basketball team and then ran for the hills.
jimrob2232 has been invited. 7:49 pm
Blake Camden 7:49 pm
That happens a lot in leagues
jimrob2232 has entered the room. 7:49 pm
recte44 7:49 pm
Blake, who do you have available
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:49 pm
Yes, it does.
Figures. that makes everyone from our division.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:50 pm
Oh yea it does. This guy flamed out hard though. Was "deep in to this" and was even looking to build another league with the then-BlackSox owner and then both fell off a cliff.
recte44 7:50 pm
FLM is the shiznit
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:50 pm
wheres the love for the JL Pacific 3 titles the last 4 years
Blake Camden 7:50 pm
recte, not too much really. I could trade prospects but Im pretty set at the major league level
recte44 7:51 pm
So, why havent you done SP conversion on Dan Bernard yet?
that guy could be one of the best pitchers in the league/
Blake Camden 7:51 pm
I dont have a lot of depth right now or salary space. So it's hard to make trades right now.
jimrob2232 has left the room. 7:52 pm
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:52 pm
Gary Barr, 40 years old, 8M/ He's gotta lay off teh pipe.
Al Hoot 7:52 pm
well, Turrell is not untouchable - lol
Blake Camden 7:53 pm
Im worried Bernards arm will blow out if I start him. Thats one thing.
recte44 7:53 pm
I wouldnt mind adding Barr, but he's asking for multi-years
Blake Camden 7:53 pm
Another thing is does a 4 rated pitch really make that much of a difference?
recte44 7:54 pm
It will, I think.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:54 pm
you should spend some PP on that terible work ethic
Blake Camden 7:54 pm
Yeah I spent all of it this year on Harrington. I thought about Bernard last year. I forgot all about it
recte44 7:55 pm
Guys- Sean (WAS) (AIM: jiminyhopkins) is on, but cant get in the chat because he's using the web version. He's available for trade talk.
Blake Camden 7:55 pm
I have no points left now.
jimrob2232 has entered the room. 7:55 pm
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:55 pm
i see
recte44 7:55 pm
do it next year, then.
Blake Camden 7:56 pm
Yeah. I'll do it next year.
Hes a perfect candidate yeah.
I forgot all about it actually.
recte44 7:56 pm
Someone should trade with WAS for either McKinney or Campbell Jr.
Al Hoot 7:56 pm
does that really help - improving work ethic and/or IQ? Ive seen some lazy dum prospects go above initial assessments
Blake Camden 7:56 pm
Im a big bullpen guy too though. I like to have a really dominant bullpen.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:57 pm
it improves your odds of them developing favorable
like my bullpen
Brad Browne (MRQ) 7:57 pm
Yea I always rate players higher with those two above normal.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:58 pm
wow ive never noticed campbell Jr
what a crappy split
recte44 7:58 pm
He's a stud, and totally blocked
Blake Camden 7:58 pm
Wow, he is pretty good.
I need a 1B.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 7:59 pm
i smell dealings afoot
Blake Camden 7:59 pm
Hits right handers
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 7:59 pm
The guy to deal is definitely McKinney, not Campbell.
Al Hoot 7:59 pm
on the Bobwhites? i dont c a Campbell Jr
Blake Camden 8:00 pm
I cant afford Mckinney
recte44 8:00 pm
he's there
30 minute warning, guys
No trades. Tough market this offseason
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:00 pm
haha
Al Hoot 8:00 pm
srry i was looking at pitchers...when I hear Washington I think McKinley Washington
Blake Camden 8:01 pm
Mckinneys pretty good though. Consistent.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:01 pm
Yeah. If only I had either inherited Lance Dickson or Russell Vanness. I could deal one for the other!
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:01 pm
I made a couple deals!
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:01 pm
Instead, I have to rebuild completely from the ground up. How dull.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:01 pm
Or trade for Jay Lee without either
Blake Camden 8:01 pm
All I have is maybe a bullpen arm. Or Ben Rivera. I dont have surplus to trade. Im thin overall I think.
A little thin or average. I dont have any surplus except at middle relief.
Blake Camden 8:03 pm
John Ballance might need a change of scenery. He could go
Al Hoot 8:03 pm
where's Aaron - he signed that EBA reliever for 7.5 mil a year
Blake Camden 8:03 pm
Ballance is rated nicely but hasnt worked out
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:04 pm
Ballance is no mans zone
Al Hoot 8:04 pm
33 year old to a five year contract
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:04 pm
he doesnt have a stud pitch or two to make him a great reliever
and not enough stamina to start
Blake Camden 8:04 pm
Yeah I dont know what the deal is with him. Maybe he'll get it together this year. He was somewhat rushed so I think hes all messed up.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:05 pm
Yep. I'd definitely do it again.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:05 pm
with a 6 control.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:05 pm
Petit's a major stud
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:05 pm
It's like history repeating itself
Al Hoot 8:05 pm
i had made a counter-offer to a free agent, but the stupdid game logged it as the same as the first offer, so I had to cancel the offer
but I dunno for 7.5 mil for 5 years, tho
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:06 pm
i think the problem is more with the guaranteed closer role
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:06 pm
Control questionable. His stuff and his movement are boss, and he has a 70% GB rating.
Unless he lumps, he's gonna be a rock-solid reliever
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:07 pm
my bet is the last 2 to 3 years of that deal will stink
but right now he sure is good
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:07 pm
Plus, what's your advice for a guy with $60 million in cap space?
recte44 8:07 pm
i'd say use it
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:07 pm
true
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:07 pm
Me too.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:07 pm
low control like that is goign to hurt.
Al Hoot 8:07 pm
yup, i think so
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:07 pm
No, Brad, you want low control like that to hurt.
20 movement and a 70 GB...he might give up a home run by 2004.
Al Hoot 8:08 pm
yeah, like trade for McGraw!
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:08 pm
I don't need McGraw...I have starters at every lineup position.
What I NEED is Ross White.
or someone that really bangs.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:08 pm
armando santos
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:08 pm
I need a shortstop that doesn't use a walker.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:09 pm
god who wouldnt want him
Al Hoot 8:09 pm
heh
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:09 pm
Well, right.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:09 pm
We'll review that signing after the season and see if it panned out to start.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:09 pm
That's what I don't have - the guaranteed .300-.400-.500 guy.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:09 pm
i think the best part of this league is i can make a statement like that without a player link and every single person here knows who im talking about
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:09 pm
I'm sure we will, Brad. After all, no one's more desperate than you to find a mistake of mine.
recte44 8:10 pm
Yeah, it's cool that we can just throw out a name and everyone knows.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:10 pm
I agree with you totally, Brett.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:11 pm
how did i even beat seattle
my god they are stacked
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:11 pm
Handily.
recte44 8:11 pm
I was missing that "thumper" a couple years ago, so added Rivero, and Urban, and then Vallejo
Al Hoot 8:11 pm
ya never know in a post season series
recte44 8:11 pm
what I found when looking for that type of player was that there arent many
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:11 pm
t rex
score
Al Hoot 8:12 pm
I'm surprised you got that far, Brett. but im sure you are too
recte44 8:12 pm
Turrell, might actually be one of them. But needs to be moved to 1B
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:12 pm
the pitchers were just rediculous
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:12 pm
no I don't need to find 'em, they launch right out without a need to look
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:12 pm
steve taub is my hero
Al Hoot 8:12 pm
Turrell can hit thats fo sure
recte44 8:12 pm
I was sad to see Oh Jr. turn into a .300/,400/,500 guy
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:13 pm
i was happy
Al Hoot 8:13 pm
Turrell is not even ranked at 1b -
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:13 pm
he took a hit to hist contact with this last injury
players gain a lot of positional experience in spring training
Al Hoot 8:13 pm
ic
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:13 pm
definitely try him there and see what happens.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:14 pm
Matt you give up on people sometimes a bit too early.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:14 pm
speaking of
im surprised botham recovered
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:14 pm
Better too early than too late.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:14 pm
true
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:15 pm
Yea he came back. and he's dirt-arse cheap
Matt got a decent pitcher out of the dela though in Rich.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:16 pm
That's just sick.
Stoller's sicker.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:17 pm
Norbert Rich
Al - ther's an example where my Intelligence/Work Ethic mantra didn't hold true.
I wasn't overly high on him since I didn't think he'd develop but he has thus far.
recte44 8:17 pm
Rich was a godsend for me last year.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:17 pm
he could just as easily be a 1 hit wonder
im not sold on him
Al Hoot 8:18 pm
who yah talking about Brad?
recte44 8:18 pm
As to giving up on guys too early, when you're trying to win 1/2 season is forever.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:18 pm
Rough May and Septeber, insane summer.
Blake Camden 8:18 pm
Yeah the secondary pitches on Rich are suspect
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:19 pm
why not make a bid ofr a FA. There are some insanely expensive players iwth low intelligence and marginal control out there
Al Hoot 8:19 pm
im trying to add some you guys to my AIM list while ur here
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:19 pm
Al; Norbert Rich on Las Vegas
HIs intell/Work ethic were suspect to me but he was a rockstar for awhile for Matt last year.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:19 pm
Brad - you're not in Free Agency.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:19 pm
whats sick is the extensions Madison's guys sigbn
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:19 pm
So I guess it's someone else with low intelligence and marginal control.
Al Hoot 8:20 pm
yup, i c that now, Brad
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:20 pm
oh someone must have bought them all up. I'll check BIR and see if they're there
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:21 pm
Well, you might find them there. If they had 20 movement.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:21 pm
Recte, are you going to announce news here live during the sim?
Al Hoot 8:21 pm
^ cool idea
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:22 pm
oh i spose i do need a 5th starter
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:22 pm
who has one
recte44 8:22 pm
I can do a little of that.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:22 pm
cool
Blake Camden 8:23 pm
I need a 3B
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:23 pm
I need a SS.
Blake Camden 8:23 pm
I'll have to move Rodriguez to 3B and start Bendel at SS if I cant pick up a 3B
Al Hoot 8:23 pm
lBlake, I got Turrell (just signed) and Robb Wells
Blake Camden 8:24 pm
You got Kava pretty cheap. I should have been on that.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:24 pm
well, you can't deal Turrell until June.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:24 pm
i was just typing that
Al Hoot 8:24 pm
oh really?
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:24 pm
me on Kava?
Al Hoot 8:24 pm
im such a newB'
Blake Camden 8:24 pm
Yeah
Al Hoot 8:25 pm
Robb Wells hit 2r hrs last year, 22 the year before
24 hr last yeat
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:25 pm
He'll be good at 2B or 3B but not SS. Range is too low.
Blake Camden 8:25 pm
Kava doesnt have power which I like out of 3B. So I was hesitant. But had I known he was coming so cheap I would have got him.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:25 pm
Right.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:25 pm
you shoudl ahve said something
Kava was going to get angry on my bench
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:26 pm
I've got Jackson (who really can't play SS Anymore)<, Brooks, Correia, and Kava now to fill 2B and 3B.
Blake Camden 8:26 pm
His ZR at 3B was alright last year. +8.1
recte44 8:26 pm
Jackson's ZR was positive at SS last year
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:26 pm
Yea I'm worried a bit though his range seems to have dropped form when I last saw him.
jimrob2232 8:26 pm
pepper brooks...still striking out like crazy
Blake Camden 8:26 pm
brd, right. You must have a lot of depth if that guys riding the bench
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:26 pm
200 in partial/full play.
jimrob2232 8:27 pm
thats why i got rid of him
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:27 pm
He's cheap and signed forever though.
I don't mind people wiffing it a bit.
Blake Camden 8:27 pm
He doesnt have the power I like. Thats why I was like ehh
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:27 pm
Power doesn't matter for me in my locale, gap is more important.
recte44 8:27 pm
3 minutes left. Any trades brewing?
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:27 pm
I'm never goign to have powerhitters beyond what i got with T_rex and Barfoot.
Blake Camden 8:28 pm
I like power out of 3B.
jimrob2232 8:28 pm
1700 strikeouts in his career...and he is 31
Blake Camden 8:28 pm
Those no power OBP 3B's I dont like.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:28 pm
no trades from me Recte, sad panda
jimrob2232 8:28 pm
me either
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:28 pm
afk quick
recte44 8:29 pm
im pretty happy with my 3B
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:29 pm
off-season aint'er over yet!
just not for tonight.
Blake Camden 8:29 pm
They have eye but no HR power. If the gap is good maybe.
jimrob2232 8:29 pm
unless bornac has slept in the last 20 minutes
Blake Camden 8:29 pm
Like Michael Reeve. That type of 3B with eye but no power I dont go for.
recte44 8:30 pm
doing imports now
doing MRQ/SEA trade now
Blake Camden 8:31 pm
2B Tory Mclaughlin I could move too. Ive got Sobah at 2B
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:31 pm
The Sobahs and Futons date back to our original computer leagues in the late 80s.
Al Hoot 8:32 pm
i knw what a futon is, but a sobah?
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:32 pm
it's a type of bar soap made in Mongolia.
Al Hoot 8:33 pm
and you would know this how, is it famous?
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:33 pm
I thought it was a designated driver in Boston.
Al Hoot 8:33 pm
haha
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:33 pm
That's right, I'm driving, so I'm a Sobah.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:33 pm
back
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:34 pm
Sobah barsoap. made with filtered camel piss and daisies.
Al Hoot 8:34 pm
right
ill ask 4 some 4 xmas
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:34 pm
black market only, the chinese really are sticklers for letting it out of their grasp.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:35 pm
hh
hahh*
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:35 pm
so nobody has a starter they want to move?
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:35 pm
Futon was Rectes. He wished to be named Elroy. Not sure where Futon came from.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:36 pm
Brett, pick up Ken Gladden in the FA Pool
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:36 pm
gladden
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:36 pm
dpenends on what you need Bob, do you want a #1 or a #4 or 5?
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:36 pm
great starter for you - and you don't have to give anyone up for him!
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:36 pm
the guy u trashed all year long
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:36 pm
yeah, that one!
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:36 pm
oh my let me take a look
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:36 pm
Depends, Brett.
I'll let you know.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:37 pm
oh dont be secretive
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:37 pm
Well, I'm waiting until after the sim.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:37 pm
ah okay
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:37 pm
I might have a starter to deal after the sim.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:37 pm
oh if u sign Javy?
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:37 pm
or someone.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:37 pm
oh my ken gladden
jeff suppan all over again
recte44 8:38 pm
Ok, ready for some results?
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:38 pm
yep!
Blake Camden 8:38 pm
Yeah
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:38 pm
definitely.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:38 pm
yep
Al Hoot 8:38 pm
drum roll
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:38 pm
wait no
i switch my vote to no
hah
recte44 8:38 pm
Klingenbeck signed with Buffalo
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:39 pm
woot
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:39 pm
oh the humanity
Al Hoot 8:39 pm
i was gonna challenge 4 him but decided not to
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:39 pm
how much?
he wanted like 5 mil a year for 4 years from me
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:39 pm
4X4.6
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:40 pm
all guaranteed?
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:40 pm
player option year 4
if i remember
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:40 pm
hes pretty solid
recte44 8:40 pm
BAL signed Damian Bedgood
Blake Camden 8:40 pm
Itd be funny if Cordero goes to the EBA
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:41 pm
yay draft pick
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:41 pm
hehe
recte44 8:41 pm
WAS signed Darren Hall
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:41 pm
bastard
not really
recte44 8:41 pm
BAL signed Roy Kitt
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:41 pm
he was good for me last year
Blake Camden 8:41 pm
Rome is in on Cordero
recte44 8:41 pm
LV signed Eric LaFrance
that's it.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:41 pm
cordero is still on the loose?
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:41 pm
good deal
Blake Camden 8:41 pm
Thats it? Dammit.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:41 pm
seriously, that's it?
Al Hoot 8:41 pm
puhhh
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:41 pm
scott boras client for sure
recte44 8:42 pm
yup, that's it.
next sim will have most of the signings, historically it's the end of December when most of the remaining top FA's sign in game
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:42 pm
Come ON...
Blake Camden 8:42 pm
Thats a bummer
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:42 pm
I have plenty of contracts out there.
recte44 8:43 pm
What, you aren't psyched about Eric LaFrance???
Al Hoot 8:43 pm
so we go into the great unknown again with a two week sim at end of Dec
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:43 pm
I am sure you are
Blake Camden 8:43 pm
RHP splits on Lafrance
recte44 8:44 pm
Yeah, he might be a platoon candidate with Slizz
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:44 pm
power out at game again.
recte44 8:44 pm
At worst, he's a decent reserve outfielder
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:44 pm
and hes young
and cheap
and canadian
recte44 8:44 pm
a minor league free agent, MON couldnt find a spot for him?
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:45 pm
if most of the moves happen at the end of december shouldnt we have our "winter meetings" then?
Blake Camden 8:45 pm
Montreal is pretty loaded right now
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:46 pm
Majorly loaded.
jimrob2232 has left the room. 8:46 pm
Blake Camden 8:46 pm
Hes in on Barr now too.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:46 pm
And Brett - yeah.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:46 pm
because this was fun
this is what the landis was going to be right?
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:46 pm
I think so
recte44 8:46 pm
yeah, we used to do this for the LMS and the All-Star Game back in the day
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:47 pm
that would have probabaly given me a heart attack
recte44 8:47 pm
we need more of a turnout
Blake Camden 8:47 pm
Yeah we should do live chat sims
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:47 pm
yeah, double this number would be good - but then the chatter is hard to follow
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:47 pm
my god when potter hit that 3 run homer
i would have have yelled like crazy
Al Hoot 8:47 pm
classic home run
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:48 pm
Hey, the lights went out in San Fran.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:48 pm
they need a new stadium
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:48 pm
1960
recte44 8:49 pm
I'm all for the live chats for big events. It's part of what made the MBBA huge back in the "70's"
Al Hoot 8:49 pm
LA Kings and Tor Leafs in OT right niw
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:49 pm
GO HAWKS!
recte44 8:49 pm
creating files and starting uploads right now.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:49 pm
see now at least a couple of you guys know my name
recte44 8:50 pm
what's with Chris Berman's voice?
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:50 pm
i thought he had throat problems awhile back
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:50 pm
he's old.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:50 pm
yeah
Blake Camden 8:51 pm
Noone signed Ratt Mectenwald yet? Wtf? Why not?
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:51 pm
haha
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:51 pm
He need to head to pasture like Candlestick.
Al Hoot (alh00t) has left the room. 8:51 pm
recte44 8:51 pm
Richie Rectenwald was available in the Rule 5 draft, too.
he was a GAME GENERATED NAME, btw.
pretty sweet.
Blake Camden 8:52 pm
Really?
recte44 8:52 pm
yup
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:52 pm
Rectenwald was part of the name database? Come on!
recte44 8:52 pm
I think Markus added it.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:52 pm
YOu edited it and added the name
recte44 8:52 pm
I did not. I did add Ratt Mectenwald
Blake Camden 8:52 pm
Ive never seen Rectenwald's before.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:53 pm
That's kinda cool.
Blake Camden 8:53 pm
Ohh, I see.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:53 pm
you weren't kidding when you said you were in good with the developers.
recte44 8:53 pm
Although, our names might also be added to the database as we add ourselves to the league file as GM's.
I'm not entirely sure.
Blake Camden 8:53 pm
Well yeah Ratt Mectenwald seems pretty obvious.
recte44 8:53 pm
That was a joke from one of the ex-GM's.
":Brian the Stunt Bum"
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:54 pm
Well, I haven't seen any Weiners yet. (That's what the ugly she said!)
Blake Camden 8:54 pm
Theres a Ben Dover in there
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:54 pm
yeah, that was added.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:54 pm
Mike Rotchitchez?
Mike Hunt?
Aaron Weiner (BIR) 8:54 pm
heh
Blake Camden 8:54 pm
I wont touch Flavor Flav. Noone else will either.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:54 pm
Peter Gozinya?
buttdart jones?
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:55 pm
so amny classics
Blake Camden 8:55 pm
We need a Jacques Strappe in there
recte44 8:55 pm
Jim left. Hoping he would go for Fantana and Tamland to add to Kind and Burgundy
I love the funny names.
Mixed into the regular ones
File is ready to download.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:56 pm
Jack McKeon Eoff?
recte44 8:56 pm
Making HTML.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:56 pm
im fine with 'em as long as its not a prominent star
recte44 8:56 pm
Resurrection Santos is an awesome name
Blake Camden 8:56 pm
Alex Khodorkovsky is awesome.
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:56 pm
hed be awesome in my CF too if i could afford him
Blake Camden 8:56 pm
Im trying to sign the russian
recte44 8:57 pm
OOTPOU is done pending HTML.
Brad Browne (MRQ) 8:57 pm
I'm goign to pour some booze.
Blake Camden 8:57 pm
Alright well I'm gonna head out.
First thing I check is Dev
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:58 pm
so who thinks meyer gets traded?
Blake Camden 8:58 pm
Drews got a talent boost.
recte44 8:58 pm
I'm out too. Finish up HTML.
Matthew Bornac (BUF) 8:58 pm
thanks Recte
Brad Browne (MRQ) (bradb74) has left the room. 8:58 pm
Blake Camden 8:59 pm
Blanco is gaining ratings now too. Thats good.
Aaron Weiner (BIR) (Wash Sea Dogs) has left the room. 8:59 pm
Blake Camden 8:59 pm
Alright, Im out.
Blake Camden (BlkCmdn) has left the room. 8:59 pm
Brett Schroeder (CAL) 8:59 pm
well me too i guess
