2043 Valencia Trade Block

[tallywood]

Updated July 21, 2043

Currently looking for: Young talent; AA and AAA ready; Farm system pieces; AAA/BBA Pitchers with cheap young contracts
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P Donald Harris
Contract: $6mm through 2043
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Utility Man Adum Adjo
Contract: $1.9mm through 2043
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[usnspecialist]

I do like the format with the stats snipped in, that is a nice touch. One suggestion is maybe find some way to get their ratings in there as well (either hand jammed or snipped in like the stats).

[tallywood]

I do like the format with the stats snipped in, that is a nice touch. One suggestion is maybe find some way to get their ratings in there as well (either hand jammed or snipped in like the stats).

I was actually debating including the ratings. Do our scouts not differ in the assessments of these players? I was worried that I would be posting my scout's assessment.

If the ratings are universally the same, then yeah ill post em!

[niles08]

I do like the format with the stats snipped in, that is a nice touch. One suggestion is maybe find some way to get their ratings in there as well (either hand jammed or snipped in like the stats).

I was actually debating including the ratings. Do our scouts not differ in the assessments of these players? I was worried that I would be posting my scout's assessment.

If the ratings are universally the same, then yeah ill post em!

Scouts are turned off.

[usnspecialist]

I do like the format with the stats snipped in, that is a nice touch. One suggestion is maybe find some way to get their ratings in there as well (either hand jammed or snipped in like the stats).

I was actually debating including the ratings. Do our scouts not differ in the assessments of these players? I was worried that I would be posting my scout's assessment.

If the ratings are universally the same, then yeah ill post em!

we turn scouts off because OOTP is too unreliable with it, so everyone will see the same ratings. Valid concern though.

[bschr682]

I find it a bit disturbing that you didn’t know scouting was off. Do the other UMEBA guys also not know this? I don’t mean this as a personal shot. More like I’m now worried about what other basic info you or the other UMEBA guys might be unaware of. I would hope our GB members aren’t delusional enough to believe that the newbies have actually read the constitution...

[crobillard]

I find it a bit disturbing that you didn’t know scouting was off. Do the other UMEBA guys also not know this? I don’t mean this as a personal shot. More like I’m now worried about what other basic info you or the other UMEBA guys might be unaware of. I would hope our GB members aren’t delusional enough to believe that the newbies have actually read the constitution...

I don't think reading the constitution is an unreasonable expectation, so I don't think the GB needs to be delusional to expect that of new league members. Do a lot of people think reading the constitution is unreasonable? I mean you wont be able to absorb all of the information right away, but I don't think it's that long or convoluted.

Free bumps for Valencia

[Lane]

I find it a bit disturbing that you didn’t know scouting was off. Do the other UMEBA guys also not know this? I don’t mean this as a personal shot. More like I’m now worried about what other basic info you or the other UMEBA guys might be unaware of. I would hope our GB members aren’t delusional enough to believe that the newbies have actually read the constitution...

Honestly, if new members aren't reading and then referencing the Constitution, I don't know what the GB is supposed to do about it.

[tallywood]

[bschr682]

I find it a bit disturbing that you didn’t know scouting was off. Do the other UMEBA guys also not know this? I don’t mean this as a personal shot. More like I’m now worried about what other basic info you or the other UMEBA guys might be unaware of. I would hope our GB members aren’t delusional enough to believe that the newbies have actually read the constitution...

I don't think reading the constitution is an unreasonable expectation, so I don't think the GB needs to be delusional to expect that of new league members. Do a lot of people think reading the constitution is unreasonable? I mean you wont be able to absorb all of the information right away, but I don't think it's that long or convoluted.

Free bumps for Valencia

Do you read the EULA on every piece of software you use? That’s what basically is...

And don’t get me wrong I agree it’s not an unreasonable thing to ask applicants to do but let’s be real. This is the internet. Not many people will actually do it...

[bschr682]

I find it a bit disturbing that you didn’t know scouting was off. Do the other UMEBA guys also not know this? I don’t mean this as a personal shot. More like I’m now worried about what other basic info you or the other UMEBA guys might be unaware of. I would hope our GB members aren’t delusional enough to believe that the newbies have actually read the constitution...

Honestly, if new members aren't reading and then referencing the Constitution, I don't know what the GB is supposed to do about it.

Presumably you guys picked him to make the jump to the BBA. When you did that, you could have easily mentioned there are many differences between UMEBA and BBA. Perhaps reminding him to refresh his knowledge via the constitution...


Obviously this isn’t a huge deal in this case. Just pointing out that you guys still don’t vet people properly. Which leads to sharking.

[crobillard]

I find it a bit disturbing that you didn’t know scouting was off. Do the other UMEBA guys also not know this? I don’t mean this as a personal shot. More like I’m now worried about what other basic info you or the other UMEBA guys might be unaware of. I would hope our GB members aren’t delusional enough to believe that the newbies have actually read the constitution...

I don't think reading the constitution is an unreasonable expectation, so I don't think the GB needs to be delusional to expect that of new league members. Do a lot of people think reading the constitution is unreasonable? I mean you wont be able to absorb all of the information right away, but I don't think it's that long or convoluted.

Free bumps for Valencia

Do you read the EULA on every piece of software you use? That’s what basically is...

And don’t get me wrong I agree it’s not an unreasonable thing to ask applicants to do but let’s be real. This is the internet. Not many people will actually do it...

Lol you think the BBA Constitution is equivalent to an agreement full of legalese? It's not even close dude. Terrible example. Regardless, what do you suggest the BBA or the GB does? We already require reading it in the application process.

Oh, a rules podcast! That would be fun. Go one line item at a time and discuss it. Rules AFBI! But would a new person listen to that podcast a year from now? Maybe we should require that people listen to it in the application process .

I have another idea! One person on the gaming board should read the constitution to the person applying. That way we know they know right? Certainly there's no time considerations of the person having to read the entire thing aloud to the person applying.

I'm kidding here obviously. There's no good solution other than requiring it to be read and understanding that no one will know everything that's in the constitution. That's why we remain approachable to anyone new, answer any questions they have and try not to make a bigger deal out of things if it's something we think is obvious.

[recte44]

I find it a bit disturbing that you didn’t know scouting was off. Do the other UMEBA guys also not know this? I don’t mean this as a personal shot. More like I’m now worried about what other basic info you or the other UMEBA guys might be unaware of. I would hope our GB members aren’t delusional enough to believe that the newbies have actually read the constitution...

Brett, is it that time of the month again?

[GoldenOne]

I find it a bit disturbing that you didn’t know scouting was off. Do the other UMEBA guys also not know this? I don’t mean this as a personal shot. More like I’m now worried about what other basic info you or the other UMEBA guys might be unaware of. I would hope our GB members aren’t delusional enough to believe that the newbies have actually read the constitution...

Brett, is it that time of the month again?

No.....why?

[bschr682]

I don't think reading the constitution is an unreasonable expectation, so I don't think the GB needs to be delusional to expect that of new league members. Do a lot of people think reading the constitution is unreasonable? I mean you wont be able to absorb all of the information right away, but I don't think it's that long or convoluted.

Free bumps for Valencia

Do you read the EULA on every piece of software you use? That’s what basically is...

And don’t get me wrong I agree it’s not an unreasonable thing to ask applicants to do but let’s be real. This is the internet. Not many people will actually do it...

Lol you think the BBA Constitution is equivalent to an agreement full of legalese? It's not even close dude. Terrible example. Regardless, what do you suggest the BBA or the GB does? We already require reading it in the application process.

Oh, a rules podcast! That would be fun. Go one line item at a time and discuss it. Rules AFBI! But would a new person listen to that podcast a year from now? Maybe we should require that people listen to it in the application process .

I have another idea! One person on the gaming board should read the constitution to the person applying. That way we know they know right? Certainly there's no time considerations of the person having to read the entire thing aloud to the person applying.

I'm kidding here obviously. There's no good solution other than requiring it to be read and understanding that no one will know everything that's in the constitution. That's why we remain approachable to anyone new, answer any questions they have and try not to make a bigger deal out of things if it's something we think is obvious.

1. Don’t be an asshole. I know you are a troll but come on.
2. Actually yea it’s a perfect analogy. When you install software it asks if you have read and agree to the EULA and won’t let you move on if you don’t say yes. Most people just lie and click yea. On our application it asks if you have read and agree to the constitution and quite obviously you can’t join the league if you say no. So yea internet gonna internet most people just say yea and move on.

The point being it’s highly naive to actually assume people have read it just because it was on a form. So for example when a person is making the jump from UMEBA to BBA it would certainly seem a friendly reminder to now actually read that constitution would be a good way to go. Couldn’t hurt?

[bschr682]

I find it a bit disturbing that you didn’t know scouting was off. Do the other UMEBA guys also not know this? I don’t mean this as a personal shot. More like I’m now worried about what other basic info you or the other UMEBA guys might be unaware of. I would hope our GB members aren’t delusional enough to believe that the newbies have actually read the constitution...

Brett, is it that time of the month again?

Yea yea. Hilarious.

[crobillard]

I find it a bit disturbing that you didn’t know scouting was off. Do the other UMEBA guys also not know this? I don’t mean this as a personal shot. More like I’m now worried about what other basic info you or the other UMEBA guys might be unaware of. I would hope our GB members aren’t delusional enough to believe that the newbies have actually read the constitution...

Disturbing, basic info, delusional. Strong words in this original post from someone who just wants the governing board to provide a gentle reminder for people coming to the BBA to re-read the constitution. A reminder is fine obviously, but if that was the original intent I think you probably could have chosen your words better or just reach out to a member of the GB directly. This seems intended to provoke a reaction or maybe it's just my time of the month

[bschr682]

On a completely different note, this is a lot of action on the Valencia trade block lol

[GoldenOne]

I was talking to Lee about Pagan since early in the off season. As busy as he was, talks were not progressing quickly.

[crobillard]

It must be due to us bumping it for Dillon. We need Lederer to investigate the Valencian collusion.