2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

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2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by RonCo » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:05 pm

So, now that most of our draft picks have signed and are in systems, I’ve done my usual thing this year, tabulating farm systems throughout the BBA with what I loosely call a “Fangraphs” method—which is basically just a linear weighting of players in the minors by overall potential. I like it a ton more than the OOTP way, which scores players in they are in the top 100 or not.

I should note that this will miss some guys still in DFA, and will obviously miss players who have not signed. It also will use overall ratings based on position regardless of whether that’s “right” or not. An 80 reliever is an 80 reliever. Also, remember, this is only players in the minor leagues. If you have a fresh0faced rookie call up on your active roster, he’s no longer considered part of your minor leagues for this study.

This season I’ve started a new (and more appropriate) cut in which I filter out older players (26 and older). So here I’m going to drop the original numbers first, then probably do another reply post with the new metric. This will allow me to show how systems have progressed in the old way, then from next year on focus on the younger player set.

First, though, let’s look at how the environment is changing.

Year807570656055504540Tot
20412011192546571463377101371
204210882240531504097891489

Last year there were 121 players in BBA minor league systems who were rated 60 Potential or higher. This year there are only 88. Note, though, that overall there are more players included in the mix—all in the 40 and 45 ranges. Maybe it’s all tied into relative ratings. Dunno. I suspect it’s as much tied to bit of an abrasive development engine, too.

Bottom line, regardless of cause, is that it appears the glut of those big draft classes are now getting seriously passed into the majors, so maybe relative differences in the systems are changing a bit.


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Here are the BBA numbers as of early June 2042. (Remember that wTot = weighted score of all players, wTop = weighted scores of only players of POT >=60). I will speak mostly of the wTot metric, which I like because in my opinion it gives a better view of overall system value. Your mileage can, of course, vary.

2042-Farm-Systems-All.PNG

You can scan this till your own cows come home, but a few teams of note:

1) Look at Chris Wilson’s progression in Portland. The expansion club is building on the long game, from the bottom up, and it’s showing.
2) Brooklyn also took a major step up, but mostly with a pile of “50” rated players.
3) Something tells me Stephen Lane’s seat is not going to be too hot for too long. They jump from #21 to #8 in one season.
4) And here comes Nashville. You knew the Commish would not have a system in the 20s for long.
5) Jacksonville, under Gregg Greathouse has made a move up, as has shoeless in California. The Crusaders adding relative value to their system while competing is a good thing for California fans.

On the downside, though …

1) Louisville continues to drop through the ranks. They took a quantum leap in 2039, and have been living off that surge ever since.
2) Likewise Hawaii and Phoenix. That said, The Talons are still strong at the top, but lose system value for their lack of depth relative to other franchises (Their wTop is #10).
3) Yellow Springs drops out of the top 5 for the first time in awhile as a lot of its name prospects have graduated into the bigs.
4) Charlotte’s fade doesn’t bode well. By OOTP their system is #3, but most of the players on their list are now in the majors so they don’t qualify for our system.


If we look at it by division we see that the JLA is now stepping into the top position. If you trust this metric, you’d say the Atlantic’s time in the muck is soon to come to an end. The Heartland, which has long been at the top of the table, is now at the bottom.

Div807570656055504540TotwTotwRkwTopwTopRk
FLH11239143995204540365.54944
FLP224610133286159368378.7531482
JLA3228131249105221314472.7511701
JLF430571531123205415390.7521253

On the next rock I’ll post the “new” method, which removes all players who are 26 and older.
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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by RonCo » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:17 pm

When I filter the minor leagues to drop players who are 26 and older, here’s what I get

Players807570656055504540Tot
All10882240531504097891489
< 2610882239541433776751336
We lose about 150 players—which is really less than I thought we would. A vast majority of them were in the 40 and 45 Potentials. I’m not sure what the deal is in the 55 Potential range where the sub 26 bumped by one. It’s probably my faulty counting somewhere. Regardless, it’s pretty clear the league is not seeing a bunch of established, older players hanging in the minors.


Here’s the table for the “new” breakdown.

2042-Farm-Systems-25.PNG

I’ll not talk about trends in this one because, well, this is the first year with the younger metric. So that’ll have to wait until next year.

Here, however, is the plot of each franchise by wTot (all players) and wTop (players rated 60 Potential or more)

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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by jleddy » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:29 pm

Great stuff, as always. The Calgary difference between the two systems is hilarious, if nothing else. That said, three of their top prospects are all relievers. I'm wondering what your rankings would look like if you stripped out all relief pitchers (or weighted them less.)
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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by RonCo » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:36 pm

Yes, that's an issue. I wish OOTP put relievers on their proper 20-80 scale. Those 80 RP should be 60 at best.

In that way, we under-represent in YS because we have guys who, without a bump, are going to be RPs in the majors but are set at SP in the minors. Our #1 pick (Chaney) is an 80 RP but scores a 45 on this chart now because we've got him set to start.
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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by aaronweiner » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:54 pm

Third? Wow.

That's a huge difference between what the game thinks I have and what you think I have. Then again I think there's a pretty big difference too.

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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by JimBob2232 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:59 pm

I had no idea OOTP had me as the #1 farm system. I was actually thinking it was getting weak. Nevarez should not be the #1 prospect though. Bad curve, and fragile.

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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by RonCo » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:05 pm

JimBob2232 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:59 pm
I had no idea OOTP had me as the #1 farm system. I was actually thinking it was getting weak. Nevarez should not be the #1 prospect though. Bad curve, and fragile.
I need to relable my plot of 2042, but it you compare that plot to the 2041 scatter, you get a feel for the magnitude of the change:


2041: download/file.php?id=1562&mode=view
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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by niles08 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:15 pm

These are always very bad for Omaha lol
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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by crobillard » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:41 pm

lol I was afraid of this. Worst system in the league sounds right though. Imagine if I didn't trade my team away for Amos lol. Over the past couple years I've had a lot of players making their debut, so my bad system is a product of bringing everyone up at the same time. I'm sure there's an argument that with the way my team was set that I could have traded pieces around to prolong the good farm system, but it's just not my style. I want it all and I want it now. Plus you never really know with prospects.

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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by 7teen » Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:35 am

Y'all heard of this thing called a "Master Plan"? haha
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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by bschr682 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:10 pm

The fact that I’m not dead last with all the graduations I’ve done this year leads me to believe progress has been made
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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by HoosierVic » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:32 pm

bschr682 wrote:
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The fact that I’m not dead last with all the graduations I’ve done this year leads me to believe progress has been made
Either that or massive fraud ...

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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by Spiccoli » Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:23 pm

Many of those higher rated pitching prospects are flooding the BBA... especially the pitchers. I've still got my #1 round pick from 2038 (pitcher) trying to development enough for the BBA. It seems like he's never going to make it...
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Re: 2042 BBA Farm System Rankings

Post by GoldenOne » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:10 pm

Its a good thing that those couple of guys that Ron doesnt count for me (but OOTP still does) are in their first year in the BBA and are 24 and 20 years old. Minors may be hurting but those two should be around on the big club for a while.
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