2062 - A Look At Stamina

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2062 - A Look At Stamina

Post by RonCo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:28 am

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A few days back there was a discussion on Discord focused on pitcher stamina, and what it was good for. This, of course, is like chum in the water to me. I started asking myself questions and I started thinking about the data I take on a plate-appearance-by-plate appearance basis. Each of those identifies the pitcher and hitter, I thought. And if I could go and grab the pitcher’s stamin ratings from the game, then patch them in…well…maybe I could do something to study it.

So that’s what I did.

Bottom line, of course, is that what I’m posting here is interesting but mostly doesn’t confirm one thing of the other. But it was fun to look at, and in the end, for better or worse, I feel like I’ve come away with a more informed view of how Stamina works in the game. I should note that the data I have is a tiny bit noisy because using the method I used, it is difficult to fully remove a few low stamina pitchers who appeared early in games. I don’t think it’s a horribly big source of error, but it’s in there somewhere (meaning I didn’t care enough to take the hours it would have taken to pick the few bad apples from the bunch).

Anway…at the end of the process I grabbed the PA-by-PA data from the 278 pitchers who started games this year, and I mapped in the pitcher’s current Stamina Ratings (note, that’s another source of error. If the Samina rating changed from the time the stat line was created to now, then I’m bucketing the data wrong). Once complete, I began compiling information.

First up, let’s look at how many batters were faced by pitchers of each stamina level cross the innings. I wasn’t really interested in guys who got rocked early, so I compiled BF data for innings 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8. Then I looked at how they fell off. The assumption is that in those innings, low stamina pitchers would face more rapidly than high stamina guys.

Here is my result for raw batters faced:

STM45678
3383362161195138
4820757412200125
5152915381113728665
652254923387324591503
743533981325821441399
841664035343020971181
92604244821101541955
10131212171197855573

That’s interesting enough, but I really want to look at fall-off rates (or really, I guess, retirement rates—how fast pitchers get removed by inning).

So here’s the same data, but shown as a %Falloff. In other words, Pitchers with three stamina faces 383 batters in 4th innings. They faced only 362 in 5th innings, which is a reduction of 5.48%. Here is that data:

STM4-55-66-77-8
35.48%55.52%-21.12%29.23%
47.68%45.57%51.46%37.50%
5-0.59%27.63%34.59%8.65%
65.78%21.33%36.51%38.88%
78.55%18.16%34.19%34.75%
83.14%14.99%38.86%43.68%
95.99%13.81%26.97%38.03%
107.24%1.64%28.57%32.98%

The most interesting number of all (for me, anyway) in this chart is the -5.78% that 5 STM pitchers saw between the 4th and 5th innings. This means that either my data is wrong (and we had “5” Stamina pitchers who started a game relieving a bunch in that span), or maybe “5” STM pitchers just gave up the ghost in that inning more often than others. I dunno. Like I said…Data noisy. Regardless, I think the data in interesting to scan both down the columns and across the rows. For example, adding the first two columns together, we see that the 4th-6th inning fall off was about 50% for “4” STM, 25% for 5, 6, and 7 STM, maybe 18% for 8 and 9 STM, and 10% for 10 STM.

Those are not surprising numbers, I suppose. Or at least they fit the model we have of high stamina pitchers lasting longer into games.

Note, though, that there is no real quality metric here.

But, of course I’ve got them.

Why, yes, I do.

And I’ll add them here in a few minutes…or whenever I get my next patch of time.
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Re: 2062 - A Look At Stamina

Post by RonCo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:43 am

First, though, here is one more table...that being the Falloff rates of various stamina ratings from innings 4-7 and 4-8.

STM4-74-8
349.09%63.97%
475.61%84.76%
552.39%56.51%
652.94%71.23%
750.75%67.86%
849.66%71.65%
940.82%63.33%
1034.83%56.33%
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Re: 2062 - A Look At Stamina

Post by RonCo » Wed Jan 22, 2025 12:27 pm

2062 - A Look At Stamina (Part 2)

The first problem with looking at performance data of a pitcher across innings is that the hitters one faces in one inning or the next will wildly differ in quality. For example, I would expect hitter performance to be strong in inning 4, and weaker in inning 5 imply because of where you might be more inclined to face the heart of the order.

Interestingly, though, the data seems to say that this is not really true. Or, really, what it probably says is that the performance falloff of pitchers may be strong enough to at least partially hide that variation. I don’t know. The Tird Time Through the Order penalty will generally hit in inning 5, though, and there’s that, too. So take these data for what they are.

I calculated Batting Average Against, OBP Against and Slugging Against for each stamina cohort across each inning. Here is what I got:


Batting Average
STM45678
20.3120.2640.2810.3540.265
30.2720.2870.2070.3040.198
40.2450.2660.2770.2670.227
50.2570.2620.2980.2530.257
60.2620.2600.2650.2510.247
70.2730.2620.2750.2710.293
80.2670.2690.2850.2630.259
90.2540.2730.2640.2440.288
100.2540.2610.2740.2650.297

On-Base
STM45678
30.3240.3450.2800.3690.268
40.2950.3220.3450.3600.304
50.3150.3210.3470.3100.316
60.3130.3170.3200.3090.311
70.3220.3160.3370.3290.355
80.3220.3310.3430.3220.318
90.3080.3280.3220.3160.350
100.3060.3040.3290.3110.344

SLUGGING
STM45678
30.4060.4140.3790.4800.349
40.3980.4030.4190.3780.373
50.4170.4270.4820.3960.422
60.4180.4160.4270.4260.423
70.4430.4180.4310.4500.479
80.4460.4280.4800.4180.424
90.4040.4250.4280.4070.440
100.4030.3970.4660.4400.532

I don’t know about you, but I need to squint a bit and think hard at places to see any serious fall-offs in Batting Average. Maybe a little bit here and there in OBP among low STM guys in particular (control flagging), but I do feel like the SLG data shows a jump across the board at inning 6 and beyond.

I should strongly note that I think my 8th inning data is likely highly polluted in the lower stamina bands because I’m guessing a lot of these PA are being handled by relievers who get included because they started a game or three.

Anyway, for better or worse there is what I’ve got.

Does it tell us anything about what role stamina plays in performance? Kind of, I mean, it seems to matter a lot in persistence and at least a bit in performance, but how much is left as an exercise for the reader to determine.
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