in theory, yes. however, if we look at 2059, only NSH and SAC averaged over 55k fans per game. so i would say that "lost" revenue of having 55k seats instead of 65k seats is minimal, especially considering you'd be short 10k seats in the first season, and just 5k seats in the second season.
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But even if you only sell out 20 dates at 15 dollars that's 3 million in lost revenue without counting playoff money, where prices are even higher.Lane wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2024 1:05 pmin theory, yes. however, if we look at 2059, only NSH and SAC averaged over 55k fans per game. so i would say that "lost" revenue of having 55k seats instead of 65k seats is minimal, especially considering you'd be short 10k seats in the first season, and just 5k seats in the second season.
It is what it is, but I think it works counter to the intended plan of pushing to a new stadium every 30 years. That instead pushes more towards relocation every 30 years.
I don't think it's a problem per se, but I also don't think it's working as intended.
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is that $3 million before or after revenue sharing?
i'm not sure what you mean by how it is intended to work.
and relocation can be a great benefit for the right team, but if you don't meet enough requirements for bonuses there's no advantage over building a new stadium.
i'm not sure what you mean by how it is intended to work.
and relocation can be a great benefit for the right team, but if you don't meet enough requirements for bonuses there's no advantage over building a new stadium.
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Fair point on gross vs net. But it's still not as mich of a no brainer as I think it should be.
I guess my feeling and I could be wrong, is that in real life, teams get new stadiums about every 30 years and it feels like the intention is to replicate that in the BBA by the stadium dues since otherwise there's no incentive. But because of the penalty for successful large stadium teams in lost revenue, it feels like the teams who are doing well have no incentive to move until Year 49.
Plus, it also feels weird to me that a team can keep expanding after building. That's not true to real life for pro teams.
Again, not saying the set up is bad. Just that it might not be working as intended, unless the stadium fee is a gentle nudge to move teams periodically. Because it always makes sense in light of a move, IMO.
I guess my feeling and I could be wrong, is that in real life, teams get new stadiums about every 30 years and it feels like the intention is to replicate that in the BBA by the stadium dues since otherwise there's no incentive. But because of the penalty for successful large stadium teams in lost revenue, it feels like the teams who are doing well have no incentive to move until Year 49.
Plus, it also feels weird to me that a team can keep expanding after building. That's not true to real life for pro teams.
Again, not saying the set up is bad. Just that it might not be working as intended, unless the stadium fee is a gentle nudge to move teams periodically. Because it always makes sense in light of a move, IMO.
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Oops.
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Lane had big-time mercy on you, as you saw.

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I went retractable roof just for realism. Felt playing in Portland and up in the PACNW required some sort of coverage from weather delays/cancellations.
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Re: 2060 State of the Stadiums
Sorry just noticed this thread.
Is there any chance that teams can renovate their stadium in the future to lessen maintenance costs?
Is there any chance that teams can renovate their stadium in the future to lessen maintenance costs?
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there is not currently a mechanism for this, only by building a new stadium can you reset maintenance costs.
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