Some way to hire other teams staff for a "promotion"

[Edward Murphy]

I feel this is not a good ideal. what my happen is musical chairs of staff. Team A, takes staff from Team B then Team B takes staff from Team C then Team C takes staff from Team A.

[JimBob2232]

It's a tough one. I see the benefit, but it seems like a logistics nightmare.

Now, I have always wanted a scouting system that works (kinda like a fog of war)....but ootp has always disapointed. Haven't tried with ootp13.

[agrudez]

Help me work this one out....

I love this idea! So much so that I want to help ressurect it from the dead (especially since it fits my motif of trying to think of smart, fun, useful ways to get excess cash out of the system).

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Although I could see allowing teams to buy out a coach's contract from another team, but at a minimum of a 50% premium on his remaining salary years AND the agreement of the owning team.

I don't really like the second part of that statement (since who is going to actually 'allow' a good coach to go?), but LOVE the first part. Maybe a bit tweaked, though, to try and increase the amount of money (and maybe PP?) it would take to 'steal' a coach (both to increase the amount of cash taken out of the system per transaction as well as make it less of a prevalent situation).

How about this for a first cut (first off, before I start, I don't think minor league coaches should be allowed to be poached UNLESS they are destined for the poaching team's ML squad in some fashion - no stealing a AA manager to make him a AAA manager, that is dum)...

1) Any minor league coach can be bought out for 2x (and 10 PP) the remaining monies owed on their current contract to be placed on a ML squad's team in ANY capacity (HC/PC/BC/MA). The easy way to protect against this is to not stockpile great coaches in the minors - if they're good then promote them.

2) Any PC/HC/BC from a ML squad can be bought out for 3x (and 15 PP) the remaining monies owed on their current contracts to be placed on a ML squad's team in ONLY a MA capacity - why would they want to sign as a HC for team A when they were already a HC for team B? To protect against this then promote deserving coaches to managers.

3) NO stealing ML MAs - why would the want to sign as a MA for team A when they were already a MA for team B?

The reason that minor coaches being poached should cost less than a ML instructional coach is because it represents a bigger 'promotion' for the coach himself and should be something they would more desire.

So, if team A hires a PC for 1M for 5 years then it would cost me an absurd 15M to poach him, so newer contracts are more 'protected', but it would only cost me 3M to poach a coach in the last year of his contract to make him my manager.

Oh, btw, the money in question isn't 'reparations' (being funneled to the poached team), but rather a league transaction fee - so that the money actually comes directly out of the system and isn't just distributed to a different portion of it. The 'poached' team gets nothing except an opening in their personell (just like in real life).

[Fat Nige]

NO

[felipe]

hmmm...i'm gonna have to check the manual...i always thought the coaching staff were pretty much just cosmetic...

[Al-Hoot]

The complete text of my post was not quoted. The part quoted was a "concessionary" portion. The thrust of my post was that I agreed with Joe, who was against the idea of "hiring other team's staff."

My main response is still that recte44 create additional high-quality coaches that those minority of GMs who place emphasis on this part of the game could hire, and those GMs who already had great coaches could not hire.

[jcrmoon42]

hmmm...i'm gonna have to check the manual...i always thought the coaching staff were pretty much just cosmetic...

Definitely not just cosmetic but the degree of impact they have is unknown...at least to us.

[agrudez]

NO

If I could ask, why do you feel this way? With how I set it up in my post it is actually pretty difficult to poach a coach anyway:

1) Under no circumstance can a ML manager be poached
2) A minor league coach/manager can only be poached IF they are going to the poaching team's ML team
3) A ML coach can only be poached if they are going to be the poaching team's manager

So, essentially, it very realistically simulates real life - the best coaches get opportunities to become ML managers instead of languishing with some team's AAA squad.

The complete text of my post was not quoted. The part quoted was a "concessionary" portion. The thrust of my post was that I agreed with Joe, who was against the idea of "hiring other team's staff."

I know, but that was the portion I wanted to quote as it pertained to my idea - wasn't trying to misquote.

[trmmilwwi]

Right after Hell freezes over.

It is (-9) degrees in eagle river Wisconsin today...

[kestu]

Not a fan of this....too much manual effort - not much of a cash impact and probably minimal 'game' impact as well...