2061 Fun with Average Ratings (Batters)

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2061 Fun with Average Ratings (Batters)

Post by BaseClogger » Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:18 pm

8/22/2061


Before the 2059 season Bob posted two (IMO) iconic league features showing the average ratings in OOTP 25 for batters and pitchers compared to OOTP24. Now that it's been a couple seasons I want to provide an update (plus a few other odds and ends).

First, the odds and ends:

PositionAvg AgeAvg OVRAvg POTAvg Salary
C28.44445$2,900,051
1B28.65657$4,471,044
2B28.14951$3,587,527
3B27.15053$3,435,489
SS28.64849$3,256,773
LF26.45254$2,608,733
CF26.94950$4,271,583
RF26.85355$2,820,416
DH29.85556$4,338,655
Total27.95152$3,521,141

I think it's interesting how young the league skews at 3B and the corner outfield which I believe is a product of more talent at those positions in recent drafts. It doesn't carry over to 1B because guys get moved to that position later in their career. We also see that OVR ratings are lower up-the-middle vs the corners which I think is a product of the game undervaluing defense. Player salary looks closely tied to age (no surprise) and OVR rating with the game probably not negotiating large enough salaries for those underrated players on the high end of the defensive spectrum. You could say valuing defense is a market inefficiency but I don't think that's a well kept secret around the BBA.

Now lets review the average ratings you should expect by position. These are weighted averages using PAs for offensive ratings and defensive innings played for fielding. Keep in mind this is by position listed in the game so it probably understates the average defense of a true shortstop, for example, as players are more likely to be kept at a position too high up the defensive spectrum in my experience.


CatcherAvg Rating
CON5.0
BABIP5.1
K's5.1
GAP5.1
POW4.8
EYE5.2
SPE1.8
C ABI7.9
C FRM7.9
C ARM6.2

At catcher, you're looking for a guy who can maintain 5s in all offensive categories. The defensive baseline is 8 ability and 6 arm. If they can hit more than that you can accept less defense and vice-versa. Catchers are extremely slow.


1B2B3BSS
CON5.85.85.45.2
BABIP5.85.55.35.2
K's5.96.15.85.5
GAP6.05.65.65.0
POW6.34.85.73.8
EYE5.85.56.05.2
SPE3.86.34.76.2
IF RNG4.17.15.88.7
IF ERR5.17.96.88.9
IF ARM5.15.99.08.0
TDP3.48.15.49.0

On the infield, you should expect your first baseman to average 6s across the board offensively while your shortstops will be closer to 5 ratings (third base and second base somewhere in between). Shortstops should be 9s defensively. Third basemen should have a 9 arm. I'm surprised the average second base infield range is only 7 as I'm usually looking for an 8 rating there.


LFCFRFSS
CON5.85.45.55.2
BABIP5.95.65.65.2
K's5.55.25.65.5
GAP6.05.76.05.0
POW6.04.75.73.8
EYE5.75.55.55.2
SPE5.57.15.86.2
OF RNG6.28.86.48.7
OF ERR6.68.36.78.9
OF ARM7.07.68.58.0
TDP3.48.15.49.0

On to the outfielders. Left fielders look like first basemen offensively but should have at least 6 outfield range to be average. Right fielders are a notch weaker offensively while center fielders start trending closer to 5 ratings. Center fielders need 9 range to be average-ish defensively while right fielders average an 8.5 arm, 1.5 higher than left fielders.
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Re: 2061 Fun with Average Ratings (Batters)

Post by Krathan » Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:27 pm

This is really interesting to look at. Thanks. I’m going to be coming back to this one few times for sure.
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Re: 2061 Fun with Average Ratings (Batters)

Post by RonCo » Fri Dec 20, 2024 3:13 pm

Nice work. It's always good to add "relative to what" to your assessment of players.
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Re: 2061 Fun with Average Ratings (Batters)

Post by Trebro » Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:29 pm

Of course sometimes players can be rated 9 at SS and still end up with a negative ZR, which is... odd.
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Re: 2061 Fun with Average Ratings (Batters)

Post by BaseClogger » Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:37 pm

Trebro wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:29 pm
Of course sometimes players can be rated 9 at SS and still end up with a negative ZR, which is... odd.
Colenut has positive ZR. Who’s this about?
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Re: 2061 Fun with Average Ratings (Batters)

Post by Trebro » Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:28 am

BaseClogger wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:37 pm
Trebro wrote:
Sat Dec 21, 2024 8:29 pm
Of course sometimes players can be rated 9 at SS and still end up with a negative ZR, which is... odd.
Colenut has positive ZR. Who’s this about?
Colenutt is headed for early retirement.

And Nevermind the other SS is an 8 now. Was a 9 before, I think.
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