Ranking the Pennant Winners
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1980s Kansas City: Dan Quisenberry was a god at the time. That people don't really remember him as a top name is a shame.
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Three true outcomes be damned, that 1985 St. Louis offense might have been the most exciting offense I've ever seen. I watched a lot of those games. Coleman, McGee, Herr, peak Ozzie, and Andy Van Slyke (who was so much fun to watch).
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1970s Reds: Bobby Tolan was a great CF. He had this big, beautiful stance with the bat held way over his head. With modern coaching, you probably will never see another one quite like it--or Joe Morgan's chicken wing pump.
His son was a prospect until a Texas police office shot him in front of the Tolan home.
His son was a prospect until a Texas police office shot him in front of the Tolan home.
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It's also not fair to say the 1970 Red's staff was putrid. Gary Nolan was a stud (until he got hurt). Don Gullett was a stud (until he got hurt..but he was pretty damned good even after, per wiki pitching on four consecutive World Champions) and only 19. Jim Maloney was a stud (until he got hurt). His 158 pitch, 10 walk no-hitter is a classic and was the first of two:
This link is a beautiful example of how fast baseball used to move ... pitch by pitch:
This link is a beautiful example of how fast baseball used to move ... pitch by pitch:
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RANK: 62
YEAR: 2006
TEAM: Detroit Tigers
TOP WAR: 451.7
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Lost World Series to St Louis Cardinals 4-1
TOTALS: Top Offense: Top Pitching: Others of note: Comments: One of the teams on this list who can still slide up a couple of spots thanks to a few guys (in this case Verlander and Andrew Miller) still alive and kicking, this Tigers team was a rise from the ashes sort of story after being one of the worst teams in baseball history just a few years before. A few key veteran acquisitions (Pudge Rodriguez and Magglio Ordonez) and a young stud starting an HOF career in Justin Verlander can do wonders for a franchise as this is also one of the most balanced performances on the list. On a different note, put me in the camp of having NO idea that Placido Polanco piled up that good of a career WAR wise.
YEAR: 2006
TEAM: Detroit Tigers
TOP WAR: 451.7
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Lost World Series to St Louis Cardinals 4-1
TOTALS: Top Offense: Top Pitching: Others of note: Comments: One of the teams on this list who can still slide up a couple of spots thanks to a few guys (in this case Verlander and Andrew Miller) still alive and kicking, this Tigers team was a rise from the ashes sort of story after being one of the worst teams in baseball history just a few years before. A few key veteran acquisitions (Pudge Rodriguez and Magglio Ordonez) and a young stud starting an HOF career in Justin Verlander can do wonders for a franchise as this is also one of the most balanced performances on the list. On a different note, put me in the camp of having NO idea that Placido Polanco piled up that good of a career WAR wise.
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
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League Champion- 34
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JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
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FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
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Re: Ranking the Pennant Winners
RANK: 61
YEAR: 1989
TEAM: San Francisco Giants
TOP WAR: 453.9
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Lost World Series 4-0 to Oakland Athletics
TOTALS: Top Offense: Top Pitching: Others of note: Comments: An offense with a mix of solid players built around a young star completely ignored by subsequent generations in Will Clark, this Giants squad fought their way through the NL only to get embarrassed by the Athletics in the World Series. Their pitching staff was headlined from a career point of view by an ancient Rick Reuschel and a college of bullpen arms featuring one of the best to ever do it in Goose Gossage. Their deep bench and pen features a surprising mix of respectable players which pushes their total WAR noticeably higher, but alas that is not what we are counting here. Worth noting that Bob Brenly was involved in both the least exciting World Series (this one) and the most exciting (2001) in recent history.
YEAR: 1989
TEAM: San Francisco Giants
TOP WAR: 453.9
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Lost World Series 4-0 to Oakland Athletics
TOTALS: Top Offense: Top Pitching: Others of note: Comments: An offense with a mix of solid players built around a young star completely ignored by subsequent generations in Will Clark, this Giants squad fought their way through the NL only to get embarrassed by the Athletics in the World Series. Their pitching staff was headlined from a career point of view by an ancient Rick Reuschel and a college of bullpen arms featuring one of the best to ever do it in Goose Gossage. Their deep bench and pen features a surprising mix of respectable players which pushes their total WAR noticeably higher, but alas that is not what we are counting here. Worth noting that Bob Brenly was involved in both the least exciting World Series (this one) and the most exciting (2001) in recent history.
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Umm my thoughts exactly. Wtf. And Andrew Miller much lower than I expected. Same for Pudge.usnspecialist wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:29 amOn a different note, put me in the camp of having NO idea that Placido Polanco piled up that good of a career WAR wise.
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Didn’t realize bunting accrued so much WAR. At least that is all I remember about Butler.usnspecialist wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:45 amRANK: 61
YEAR: 1989
TEAM: San Francisco Giants
TOP WAR: 453.9
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Lost World Series 4-0 to Oakland Athletics
TOTALS:
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Top Offense:
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Top Pitching:
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Others of note:
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Comments: An offense with a mix of solid players built around a young star completely ignored by subsequent generations in Will Clark, this Giants squad fought their way through the NL only to get embarrassed by the Athletics in the World Series. Their pitching staff was headlined from a career point of view by an ancient Rick Reuschel and a college of bullpen arms featuring one of the best to ever do it in Goose Gossage. Their deep bench and pen features a surprising mix of respectable players which pushes their total WAR noticeably higher, but alas that is not what we are counting here. Worth noting that Bob Brenly was involved in both the least exciting World Series (this one) and the most exciting (2001) in recent history.
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The earthquake series.usnspecialist wrote: ↑Tue Dec 29, 2020 2:45 amRANK: 61
YEAR: 1989
TEAM: San Francisco Giants
TOP WAR: 453.9
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Lost World Series 4-0 to Oakland Athletics
TOTALS:
OVERALL.PNG
Top Offense:
OFFENSE.PNG
Top Pitching:
PITCHING.PNG
Others of note:
OTHERS.PNG
Comments: An offense with a mix of solid players built around a young star completely ignored by subsequent generations in Will Clark, this Giants squad fought their way through the NL only to get embarrassed by the Athletics in the World Series. Their pitching staff was headlined from a career point of view by an ancient Rick Reuschel and a college of bullpen arms featuring one of the best to ever do it in Goose Gossage. Their deep bench and pen features a surprising mix of respectable players which pushes their total WAR noticeably higher, but alas that is not what we are counting here. Worth noting that Bob Brenly was involved in both the least exciting World Series (this one) and the most exciting (2001) in recent history.
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Ya I need to dig out my lists and finish this. Will retroactively add the teams from 2010-2013 as well (I give a 10 year gap to allow players to add WAR.
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Ranking the Pennant Winners
RANK: 60
YEAR: 1987
TEAM: Minnesota Twins
TOP WAR:
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Won World Series 4-3 over St. Louis Cardinals
TOTALS:
TOP HITTING:
TOP PITCHING
OTHERS OF NOTE
Comments: A team with mediocre hitting that read a grizzled shallow pitching staff to a surprise title (the first of two times this franchise can say that), the Twins rode the early HOF career of Kirby Puckett and a respectable but hardly outstanding supporting case and the ancient arm of Bert Blyleven and the wildly underrated Frank Viola. The outrageous pitching garbage WAR is virtually solely due to the Steve Carlton starting 7 games following a midseason acquisition at 42 years old. The bench is so bad that the collective group outside of Don Baylor LOST value, including the now legendary Billy Beane.
YEAR: 1987
TEAM: Minnesota Twins
TOP WAR:
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Won World Series 4-3 over St. Louis Cardinals
TOTALS:
CATEGORY | TOTAL | RANK |
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TOP TOTAL WAR | 461.3 | 60 |
TOP BATTER WAR | 235 | 68 |
TOP PITCHING WAR | 226.3 | 32 |
TOTAL WAR | 607.5 | 49 |
TOTAL BATTER WAR | 26.7 | 73 |
TOTAL PITCHER WAR | 346.8 | 15 |
GARBAGE TOTAL WAR | 146.2 | 24 |
GARBAGE BATTER WAR | 25.7 | 71 |
GARBAGE PITCHER WAR | 120.5 | 2 |
BATTER AGE | 27.95 | 59 |
PITCHER AGE | 30.24 | 7 |
TOP BATTER AGE | 27.91 | 65 |
TOP PITCHER AGE | 31.90 | 3 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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C | 29 | Tim Laudner | 3.2 |
1B | 27 | Kent Hrbek | 38.6 |
2B | 27 | Steve Lombardozzi | 4.4 |
SS | 25 | Greg Gagne | 26.3 |
3B | 28 | Gary Gaetti | 42.1 |
LF | 29 | Dan Gladden | 15.5 |
CF | 27 | Kirby Puckett | 51.1 |
RF | 26 | Tom Brunansky | 22 |
DH | 34 | Roy Smalley | 27.9 |
BENCH | 28 | Randy Bush | 1.4 |
BENCH | 27 | Al Newman | 2.5 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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SP | 36 | Bert Blyleven | 94.5 |
SP | 27 | Frank Viola | 47 |
SP | 27 | Les Straker | 3 |
SP | 32 | Mike Smithson | 6.1 |
SP | 42 | Joe Niekro | 29.7 |
RP | 31 | Jeff Reardon | 18.6 |
RP | 32 | Juan Berenguer | 9.9 |
RP | 32 | George Frazier | 2.9 |
RP | 28 | Keith Atherton | 4.4 |
RP | 32 | Dan Schatzeder | 10.2 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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BULLPEN | 42 | Steve Carlton | 90.2 |
BENCH | 38 | Don Baylor | 28.5 |
BENCH | 25 | Billy Beane | -1.6 |
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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WOW. I didn’t know Carlton played for the Twins. And crazy that Puckett is HOF with that low of a WAR. Don’t think we will see that low of a WAR get inducted again.usnspecialist wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:28 pmRANK: 60
YEAR: 1987
TEAM: Minnesota Twins
TOP WAR:
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Won World Series 4-3 over St. Louis Cardinals
TOTALS:
TOP HITTING:
CATEGORY TOTAL RANK TOP TOTAL WAR 461.3 60 TOP BATTER WAR 235 68 TOP PITCHING WAR 226.3 32 TOTAL WAR 607.5 49 TOTAL BATTER WAR 26.7 73 TOTAL PITCHER WAR 346.8 15 GARBAGE TOTAL WAR 146.2 24 GARBAGE BATTER WAR 25.7 71 GARBAGE PITCHER WAR 120.5 2 BATTER AGE 27.95 59 PITCHER AGE 30.24 7 TOP BATTER AGE 27.91 65 TOP PITCHER AGE 31.90 3 TOP PITCHING
POSITION AGE NAME WAR C 29 Tim Laudner 3.2 1B 27 Kent Hrbek 38.6 2B 27 Steve Lombardozzi 4.4 SS 25 Greg Gagne 26.3 3B 28 Gary Gaetti 42.1 LF 29 Dan Gladden 15.5 CF 27 Kirby Puckett 51.1 RF 26 Tom Brunansky 22 DH 34 Roy Smalley 27.9 BENCH 28 Randy Bush 1.4 BENCH 27 Al Newman 2.5 OTHERS OF NOTE
POSITION AGE NAME WAR SP 36 Bert Blyleven 94.5 SP 27 Frank Viola 47 SP 27 Les Straker 3 SP 32 Mike Smithson 6.1 SP 42 Joe Niekro 29.7 RP 31 Jeff Reardon 18.6 RP 32 Juan Berenguer 9.9 RP 32 George Frazier 2.9 RP 28 Keith Atherton 4.4 RP 32 Dan Schatzeder 10.2 Comments: A team with mediocre hitting that read a grizzled shallow pitching staff to a surprise title (the first of two times this franchise can say that), the Twins rode the early HOF career of Kirby Puckett and a respectable but hardly outstanding supporting case and the ancient arm of Bert Blyleven and the wildly underrated Frank Viola. The outrageous pitching garbage WAR is virtually solely due to the Steve Carlton starting 7 games following a midseason acquisition at 42 years old. The bench is so bad that the collective group outside of Don Baylor LOST value, including the now legendary Billy Beane.
POSITION AGE NAME WAR BULLPEN 42 Steve Carlton 90.2 BENCH 38 Don Baylor 28.5 BENCH 25 Billy Beane -1.6
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RANK: 59
YEAR: 1982
TEAM: St. Louis Cardinals
TOP WAR: 464.2
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Won World Series 4-3 over Milwaukee Brewers
TOTALS:
TOP HITTING:
TOP PITCHING:
OTHERS OF NOTE:
Comments: A pretty solid and balanced offense full of guys in their primes with no real holes beyond the depth (which was virtually non-existent). Cardinals fans might see red at the sight of Dane Iorg, who would more famously get his 2nd ring 3 years later as a member of the Royals after being involved in THAT play. The pitching staff here is nothing to write home about, Forsch and Andujar were solid and Jim Kaat was old but other than it was mediocrity at its finest. Still good enough to get a ring at the end of the day though.
YEAR: 1982
TEAM: St. Louis Cardinals
TOP WAR: 464.2
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Won World Series 4-3 over Milwaukee Brewers
TOTALS:
CATEGORY | TOTAL | RANK |
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TOP TOTAL WAR | 464.2 | 59 |
TOP BATTER WAR | 321.1 | 39 |
TOP PITCHING WAR | 135.1 | 68 |
TOTAL WAR | 540.8 | 64 |
TOTAL BATTER WAR | 392.1 | 46 |
TOTAL PITCHER WAR | 148.7 | 76 |
GARBAGE TOTAL WAR | 76.6 | 63 |
GARBAGE BATTER WAR | 63 | 47 |
GARBAGE PITCHER WAR | 13.6 | 64 |
BATTER AGE | 27.58 | 64 |
PITCHER AGE | 28.21 | 42 |
TOP BATTER AGE | 27.18 | 75 |
TOP PITCHER AGE | 29.00 | 39 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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C | 30 | Darrell Porter | 40.9 |
1B | 28 | Keith Hernandez | 60.3 |
2B | 26 | Tom Herr | 23.5 |
SS | 27 | Ozzie Smith | 76.9 |
3B | 26 | Ken Oberkfell | 22.4 |
LF | 26 | Lonnie Smith | 38.5 |
CF | 23 | Willie McGee | 34.2 |
RF | 32 | George Hendrick | 29.1 |
BENCH | 28 | Mike Ramsey | -1.3 |
BENCH | 32 | Dane Iorg | 0.3 |
BENCH | 21 | David Green | 4.3 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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SP | 29 | Joaquin Andujar | 16.1 |
SP | 32 | Bob Forsch | 24.6 |
SP | 27 | Steve Mura | 1.0 |
SP | 25 | John Stuper | 1.4 |
RP | 29 | Bruce Sutter | 24 |
RP | 22 | Dave LaPoint | 7.1 |
RP | 32 | Doug Bair | 6.8 |
RP | 43 | Jim Kaat | 50.5 |
RP | 25 | Jeff Lahti | 2.7 |
RP | 26 | John Martin | 0.9 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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BENCH | 35 | Gene Tenace | 46.8 |
BENCH | 34 | Steve Braun | 17.4 |
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Ranking the Pennant Winners
Harold Baines (38.8), Tony Oliva (43.0), Gil Hodges (43.8) were elected by the veterans committee and Jim Rice (47.7) went in on his last normal ballot since puckett was elected, but ya that is it on the offensive side. I think he got a little credit for having to retire early, but still weird to see him as a first ballot guy with over 80% of the vote.Dington wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:31 pmWOW. I didn’t know Carlton played for the Twins. And crazy that Puckett is HOF with that low of a WAR. Don’t think we will see that low of a WAR get inducted again.usnspecialist wrote: ↑Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:28 pmRANK: 60
YEAR: 1987
TEAM: Minnesota Twins
TOP WAR:
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Won World Series 4-3 over St. Louis Cardinals
TOTALS:
TOP HITTING:
CATEGORY TOTAL RANK TOP TOTAL WAR 461.3 60 TOP BATTER WAR 235 68 TOP PITCHING WAR 226.3 32 TOTAL WAR 607.5 49 TOTAL BATTER WAR 26.7 73 TOTAL PITCHER WAR 346.8 15 GARBAGE TOTAL WAR 146.2 24 GARBAGE BATTER WAR 25.7 71 GARBAGE PITCHER WAR 120.5 2 BATTER AGE 27.95 59 PITCHER AGE 30.24 7 TOP BATTER AGE 27.91 65 TOP PITCHER AGE 31.90 3 TOP PITCHING
POSITION AGE NAME WAR C 29 Tim Laudner 3.2 1B 27 Kent Hrbek 38.6 2B 27 Steve Lombardozzi 4.4 SS 25 Greg Gagne 26.3 3B 28 Gary Gaetti 42.1 LF 29 Dan Gladden 15.5 CF 27 Kirby Puckett 51.1 RF 26 Tom Brunansky 22 DH 34 Roy Smalley 27.9 BENCH 28 Randy Bush 1.4 BENCH 27 Al Newman 2.5 OTHERS OF NOTE
POSITION AGE NAME WAR SP 36 Bert Blyleven 94.5 SP 27 Frank Viola 47 SP 27 Les Straker 3 SP 32 Mike Smithson 6.1 SP 42 Joe Niekro 29.7 RP 31 Jeff Reardon 18.6 RP 32 Juan Berenguer 9.9 RP 32 George Frazier 2.9 RP 28 Keith Atherton 4.4 RP 32 Dan Schatzeder 10.2 Comments: A team with mediocre hitting that read a grizzled shallow pitching staff to a surprise title (the first of two times this franchise can say that), the Twins rode the early HOF career of Kirby Puckett and a respectable but hardly outstanding supporting case and the ancient arm of Bert Blyleven and the wildly underrated Frank Viola. The outrageous pitching garbage WAR is virtually solely due to the Steve Carlton starting 7 games following a midseason acquisition at 42 years old. The bench is so bad that the collective group outside of Don Baylor LOST value, including the now legendary Billy Beane.
POSITION AGE NAME WAR BULLPEN 42 Steve Carlton 90.2 BENCH 38 Don Baylor 28.5 BENCH 25 Billy Beane -1.6
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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RANK: 58
YEAR: 2005
TEAM: Houston Astros
TOP WAR: 467.7
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Lost World Series 4-0 to Chicago White Sox
TOTALS:
TOP HITTING:
TOP PITCHING:
OTHERS OF NOTE:
Comments: Had Jeff Bagwell taken 82 more at-bats this team would have been 20 spots higher and in the top 40, but alas he was basically a shell of himself by the end (although still better than Vizcaino), so he only played in 39 games that year. This team was full of OLD guys who just knew how to play baseball. Unfortunately they were on the wrong end of arguably the most competitive sweep in baseball history as their star studded roster consisting of 2 HOFers (bagwell and biggio), 3 Hall of Very Good guys (Berkman, Oswalt, Petitte) and Roger Clemens fell to a bunch of random guys from Chicago.
YEAR: 2005
TEAM: Houston Astros
TOP WAR: 467.7
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Lost World Series 4-0 to Chicago White Sox
TOTALS:
CATEGORY | TOTAL | RANK |
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TOP TOTAL WAR | 467.7 | 58 |
TOP BATTER WAR | 179.7 | 77 |
TOP PITCHING WAR | 288 | 17 |
TOTAL WAR | 586.6 | 54 |
TOTAL BATTER WAR | 274.5 | 71 |
TOTAL PITCHER WAR | 312.1 | 25 |
GARBAGE TOTAL WAR | 118.9 | 39 |
GARBAGE BATTER WAR | 94.8 | 27 |
GARBAGE PITCHER WAR | 24.1 | 54 |
BATTER AGE | 30.00 | 12 |
PITCHER AGE | 30.24 | 7 |
TOP BATTER AGE | 30.82 | 12 |
TOP PITCHER AGE | 29.70 | 27 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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C | 36 | Brad Ausmus | 16.5 |
1B | 29 | Lance Berkman | 52 |
2B | 39 | Craig Biggio | 65.5 |
SS | 28 | Adam Everett | 12.6 |
3B | 29 | Morgan Ensberg | 13.8 |
LF | 25 | Chris Burke | -1.2 |
CF | 23 | Willy Taveras | 5.1 |
RF | 28 | Jason Lane | 1.8 |
BENCH | 29 | Mike Lamb | 4 |
BENCH | 36 | Orlando Palmeiro | 2.6 |
BENCH | 37 | Jose Vizcaino | 7 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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SP | 27 | Roy Oswalt | 50 |
SP | 33 | Andy Petitte | 60.2 |
SP | 42 | Roger Clemens | 139.2 |
SP | 27 | Brandon Backe | 2.5 |
SP | 26 | Wandy Rodriguez | 13.2 |
RP | 25 | Ezquiel Astacio | -1.3 |
RP | 28 | Brad Lidge | 7.9 |
RP | 26 | Chad Qualls | 5.8 |
RP | 27 | Dan Wheeler | 7.8 |
RP | 36 | Russ Springer | 2.7 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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BENCH | 37 | Jeff Bagwell | 79.9 |
BULLPEN | 44 | John Franco | 23.4 |
BENCH | 27 | Luke Scott | 11.8 |
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Ranking the Pennant Winners
RANK: 57
YEAR: 1971
TEAM: Pittsburgh Pirates
TOP WAR: 468.4
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Won World Series 4-3 over Baltimore Orioles
TOTALS:
TOP HITTING:
TOP PITCHING:
OTHERS OF NOTE:
Comments: The last hurrah for Roberto Clemente before his unfortunate plane crash just over a year later, he was part of a very very good outfield with HOFers on the corner, and young Al Oliver in center who was no slouch himself. In fact the entire lineup was loaded with guys who knew how to hit a baseball and do their jobs very well, which is more than could be said for the starting rotation. How a rotation like THAT was good enough to win a world series requires dipping into some of Dock Ellis cocaine and LSD collection. I cant think of another situation where all 4 bullpen guys (6 guys on this team started more games than they entered in relief) had better careers than any of the starters. The “others” on this roster have a HOFer (albeit dubiously) in Bill Maseroski and some respectable baby bats.
YEAR: 1971
TEAM: Pittsburgh Pirates
TOP WAR: 468.4
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Won World Series 4-3 over Baltimore Orioles
TOTALS:
CATEGORY | TOTAL | RANK |
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TOP TOTAL WAR | 468.4 | 57 |
TOP BATTER WAR | 332.2 | 38 |
TOP PITCHING WAR | 136.2 | 67 |
TOTAL WAR | 596.6 | 52 |
TOTAL BATTER WAR | 435.7 | 33 |
TOTAL PITCHER WAR | 160.9 | 70 |
GARBAGE TOTAL WAR | 128.2 | 31 |
GARBAGE BATTER WAR | 103.5 | 22 |
GARBAGE PITCHER WAR | 24.7 | 52 |
BATTER AGE | 26.40 | 79 |
PITCHER AGE | 27.80 | 51 |
TOP BATTER AGE | 27.55 | 72 |
TOP PITCHER AGE | 28.20 | 50 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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C | 27 | Manny Sanguillen | 27.6 |
1B | 24 | Bob Robertson | 9.4 |
2B | 23 | Dave Cash | 25.6 |
SS | 30 | Gene Alley | 24.2 |
3B | 23 | Richie Hebner | 33 |
LF | 31 | Willie Stargell | 57.5 |
CF | 24 | Al Oliver | 43.7 |
RF | 36 | Roberto Clemente | 94.8 |
BENCH | 31 | Vic Davalillo | 15.8 |
BENCH | 24 | Gene Clines | 4.5 |
BENCH | 30 | Jackie Hernandez | -3.9 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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SP | 29 | Steve Blass | 7.4 |
SP | 26 | Dock Ellis | 14.2 |
SP | 28 | Bob Johnson | 6.4 |
SP | 27 | Luke Walker | 2.8 |
SP | 23 | Bob Moose | 7.6 |
SP | 21 | Bruce Kison | 15.1 |
RP | 31 | Dive Giusti | 18.8 |
RP | 27 | Nelson Briles | 20.9 |
RP | 35 | Mudcat Grant | 21.1 |
RP | 35 | Bob Veale | 21.9 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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BENCH | 34 | Bill Mazeroski | 36.5 |
BENCH | 22 | Richie Zisk | 25.1 |
BULLPEN | 32 | Bob Miller | 16.7 |
BENCH | 20 | Milt May | 16.5 |
BENCH | 20 | Rennie Stennett | 13.9 |
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Ranking the Pennant Winners
RANK: 56
YEAR: 1991
TEAM: Atlanta Braves
TOP WAR: 469.0
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Lost World Series 4-3 to Minnesota Twins
TOTALS:
TOP HITTERS:
TOP PITCHERS:
OTHERS OF NOTE:
Comments: The first edition of the Atlanta Braves dynasty on this list, this is the edition of the Braves who were the “first” of the worst to first edition relied on a great top half of the rotation, a solid outfield and some good ole fashioned smoke and mirrors for the rest. Special mention goes out to Lonnie Smith for winning his 4th pennant with his 4 organization (he would win another with the Braves in 1992), although this was his first World Series loss. Some interesting names stashed deep on the roster, including a pre Coors Field Vinny Castilla, a pre CU Buffalo Deion Sanders and a young fire baller in Mark Wohlers who would play bigger roles for the Braves later in the decade. The high garbage pitcher WAR is (unlike most at the top of that category) not due to a legend who barely got any time for whatever reason, but due instead to a bunch of relatively anonymous guys who had decent careers.
YEAR: 1991
TEAM: Atlanta Braves
TOP WAR: 469.0
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Lost World Series 4-3 to Minnesota Twins
TOTALS:
CATEGORY | TOTAL | RANK |
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TOP TOTAL WAR | 469 | 56 |
TOP BATTER WAR | 204.5 | 74 |
TOP PITCHING WAR | 264.5 | 21 |
TOTAL WAR | 600.9 | 51 |
TOTAL BATTER WAR | 246.5 | 76 |
TOTAL PITCHER WAR | 354.4 | 13 |
GARBAGE TOTAL WAR | 131.9 | 29 |
GARBAGE BATTER WAR | 42 | 58 |
GARBAGE PITCHER WAR | 89.9 | 9 |
BATTER AGE | 27.52 | 67 |
PITCHER AGE | 28.65 | 32 |
TOP BATTER AGE | 28.64 | 50 |
TOP PITCHER AGE | 27.50 | 63 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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C | 30 | Greg Olson | 2.2 |
1B | 30 | Sid Bream | 11.1 |
2B | 28 | Jeff Treadway | 6.1 |
SS | 29 | Rafael Belliard | -0.2 |
3B | 30 | Terry Pendleton | 28.5 |
LF | 35 | Lonnie Smith | 38.5 |
CF | 26 | Ron Gant | 34.1 |
RF | 25 | David Justice | 40.6 |
BENCH | 32 | Otis Nixon | 16.6 |
BENCH | 25 | Jeff Blauser | 20.9 |
BENCH | 25 | Mark Lemke | 6.1 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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SP | 25 | Tom Glavine | 80.7 |
SP | 34 | Charlie Leibrandt | 33.3 |
SP | 24 | John Smoltz | 69.0 |
SP | 21 | Steve Avery | 13.8 |
SP | 36 | Juan Berenguer | 9.9 |
RP | 24 | Mike Stanton | 14.3 |
RP | 23 | Kent Mercker | 12.0 |
RP | 28 | Marvin Freeman | 6.0 |
RP | 35 | Jim Clancy | 20.5 |
RP | 25 | Pete Smith | 5.0 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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BULLPEN | 37 | Rick Mahler | 20.2 |
BENCH | 23 | Vinny Castilla | 19.4 |
BULLPEN | 32 | Dan Petry | 17.1 |
BULLPEN | 32 | Alejandro Pena | 15.4 |
BENCH | 36 | Mike Heath | 13.4 |
BENCH | 23 | Deion Sanders | 5.5 |
BULLPEN | 21 | Mark Wohlers | 3.9 |
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Ranking the Pennant Winners
RANK: 55
YEAR: 1982
TEAM: Milwaukee Brewers
TOP WAR: 474.2
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Lost World Series 4-3 to St Louis Cardinals
TOTALS:
TOP HITTERS:
TOP PITCHERS:
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Comments: The first and still only appearance of the Brew Crew in the World Series gives us a fairly middle of the road team. The obvious stars here are Yount and Molitor at the very beginning of their careers, but there were a total of 5 Hall of Famers on this team (Yount, Molitor, Sutton, Simmons and Fingers). There wasn’t a true weak link in the lineup or in the playoff rotation, as this team pushed their future division mates in the Cardinals (yes Milwaukee used to be in the AL kiddies!!) to 7 games before getting #yosted and falling. The pitching staff had the Cy Young Winner that season in Pete Vuckovich, who within 7 years became far better known for being the evil Clu Haywood in the classic movie Major League.
YEAR: 1982
TEAM: Milwaukee Brewers
TOP WAR: 474.2
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Lost World Series 4-3 to St Louis Cardinals
TOTALS:
CATEGORY | TOTAL | RANK |
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TOP TOTAL WAR | 474.2 | 55 |
TOP BATTER WAR | 365.4 | 25 |
TOP PITCHING WAR | 108.8 | 77 |
TOTAL WAR | 614.2 | 48 |
TOTAL BATTER WAR | 394.1 | 45 |
TOTAL PITCHER WAR | 220.1 | 50 |
GARBAGE TOTAL WAR | 140 | 26 |
GARBAGE BATTER WAR | 28.7 | 70 |
GARBAGE PITCHER WAR | 111.3 | 4 |
BATTER AGE | 28.72 | 38 |
PITCHER AGE | 29.80 | 14 |
TOP BATTER AGE | 29.91 | 26 |
TOP PITCHER AGE | 30.00 | 23 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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C | 32 | Ted Simmons | 50.3 |
1B | 32 | Cecil Cooper | 36 |
2B | 29 | Jim Gantner | 22.4 |
SS | 26 | Robin Yount | 77.3 |
3B | 25 | Paul Molitor | 75.7 |
LF | 33 | Ben Ogilvie | 26.4 |
CF | 31 | Gorman Thomas | 19.8 |
RF | 29 | Charlie Moore | 10.3 |
DH | 28 | Ray Howell | 10.9 |
BENCH | 35 | Don Money | 36.5 |
BENCH | 29 | Marshall Edwards | -0.2 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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SP | 33 | Mike Caldwell | 18.4 |
SP | 29 | Pete Vuckovich | 16.4 |
SP | 26 | Moose Haas | 17.3 |
SP | 30 | Bob McClure | 10.5 |
SP | 27 | Randy Lerch | -2.1 |
RP | 35 | Rollie Fingers | 25.6 |
RP | 32 | Jim Slaton | 17.3 |
RP | 30 | Dwight Bernard | -0.5 |
RP | 29 | Jerry Augustine | 4.2 |
RP | 29 | Jamie Easterly | 1.7 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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BULLPEN | 37 | Don Sutton | 66.7 |
BULLPEN | 25 | Doug Jones | 21.4 |
BULLPEN | 33 | Doc Medich | 19.6 |
BENCH | 23 | Kevin Bass | 14.8 |
BENCH | 27 | Ned Yost | -3.7 |
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Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Ranking the Pennant Winners
RANK:54
YEAR: 2006
TEAM: St Louis Cardinals
TOP WAR: 478.5
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Won World Series 4-1 over Detroit Tigers
TOTALS:
TOP OFFENSE:
TOP PITCHING:
OTHERS OF NOTE:
Comments: The worst team (by regular season won/loss record) to win the world series at 83-78, this Cardinals team had some serious talent on it however. 2 HOF (or will be) HOF guys in Pujols/Rolen, 2 guys that many people can make a case for in Jim Edmonds and (less so) Yadier Molina and 2 pitchers you might be surprised to see that low in Adam Wainwright and Chris Carpenter. Toss in former stud and future celebrity golf extraordinaire Mark Mulder and the ultimate 21st century grinder in David Eckstein and you have a respectable team that was probably better than their record indicated. That being said, if you were not one of those names, mentioned above, there is a decent chance you were a scrub who was lucky to be on a big league starting lineup….
YEAR: 2006
TEAM: St Louis Cardinals
TOP WAR: 478.5
PLAYOFF RESULTS: Won World Series 4-1 over Detroit Tigers
TOTALS:
CATEGORY | TOTAL | RANK |
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TOP TOTAL WAR | 478.5 | 564 |
TOP BATTER WAR | 318.4 | 45 |
TOP PITCHING WAR | 160.1 | 62 |
TOTAL WAR | 536.5 | 65 |
TOTAL BATTER WAR | 354.9 | 54 |
TOTAL PITCHER WAR | 181.6 | 63 |
GARBAGE TOTAL WAR | 58 | 70 |
GARBAGE BATTER WAR | 36.5 | 62 |
GARBAGE PITCHER WAR | 21.5 | 55 |
BATTER AGE | 29.86 | 18 |
PITCHER AGE | 28.26 | 41 |
TOP BATTER AGE | 29.64 | 30 |
TOP PITCHER AGE | 28.60 | 44 |
CATEGORY | TOTAL | RANK |
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TOP TOTAL WAR | 478.5 | 564 |
TOP BATTER WAR | 318.4 | 45 |
TOP PITCHING WAR | 160.1 | 62 |
TOTAL WAR | 536.5 | 65 |
TOTAL BATTER WAR | 354.9 | 54 |
TOTAL PITCHER WAR | 181.6 | 63 |
GARBAGE TOTAL WAR | 58 | 70 |
GARBAGE BATTER WAR | 36.5 | 62 |
GARBAGE PITCHER WAR | 21.5 | 55 |
BATTER AGE | 29.86 | 18 |
PITCHER AGE | 28.26 | 41 |
TOP BATTER AGE | 29.64 | 30 |
TOP PITCHER AGE | 28.60 | 44 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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SP | 31 | Chris Carpenter | 34.2 |
SP | 27 | Jason Marquis | 6.8 |
SP | 31 | Jeff Suppan | 17.1 |
SP | 28 | Mark Mulder | 20.0 |
SP | 24 | Anthony Reyes | 0.0 |
SP | 29 | Jeff Weaver | 15.2 |
RP | 33 | Jason Isringhausen | 13.0 |
RP | 28 | Josh Hancock | 0.7 |
RP | 24 | Adam Wainwright | 44.9 |
RP | 31 | Braden Looper | 8.2 |
POSITION | AGE | NAME | WAR |
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BENCH | 31 | Ronnie Belliard | 20.8 |
BULLPEN | 29 | Sidney Ponson | 11.1 |
BENCH | 26 | Skip Schumacher | 6.4 |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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