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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by jcrmoon42 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 3:16 pm

mrbornac wrote:Two words for you guys.

Jeremy. Hunter. If that bum from Vegas is in the hall, this guy should be.
Totally agreed! At least on the Hunter for HOF part. Not necessarily on the Hinson is a bum part.

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by JimBob2232 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:12 pm

Dwayne Johnson deserves it!

I'd also consider opening up the voting to previous GMs who come back on occasion. i.e. Joe, Mike Bieschke, etc. Could be fun for them to vote as well, and a way to keep former GMs somewhat engaged with minimal effort.

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by recte44 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:24 am

For sure. Ex-gms should have a vote.

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by jcrmoon42 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:30 pm

I will take anybody's ballot who is on this board as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by felipe » Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:24 am

I've never had a problem with the google docs before; but this one ain't working for me...can I get a PM of the list or an email?

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by Al-Hoot » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:12 am

felipe wrote:I've never had a problem with the google docs before; but this one ain't working for me...can I get a PM of the list or an email?

Tks
If you had your email available, somewhere (like in OOTP), someone could send you the file.

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by jcrmoon42 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:59 am

Having a PM discussion with someone about Moronobu, who isn't getting much attention for some reason. The subject of his lower OPS+ than the other candidates was brought up. Here is what I said:

"Granted, and that is certainly part of the picture. Still, a long career from a power hitting, Gold Glove shortstop. Of every player in the RL HOF with as many hits as Moronobu, every one with as many HR is a 1B or an OF. Ripken had one homer less than Moronobu and wasn't as good a hitter. The only HOF shortstops I can find with higher OPS+ are Wagner and Banks, who actually played more games as a 1B."

I am consistently surprised that our voters don't seem to take position into consideration much. To me, Moronobu is a shoo-in.

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by aaronweiner » Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:01 pm

I put Moronobu like eighth, but that's because there are some truly all-time greats in this bunch. He's one of them, but there were seven guys I wanted to see ahead of him, at least this year. He might move up on my ballot next year depending on who gets in and who's up for consideration.

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by jcrmoon42 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:33 pm

With 14 ballots received, there is one player who is pretty much guaranteed. Three others are fighting over second place and have a shot with more support.

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by mrbornac » Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:46 pm

Jeremy Hunter people! Vote him in!
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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by felipe » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:16 pm

thank you Al; I have changed it; love it if someone could send this on

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Post by Al-Hoot » Thu Jan 02, 2014 5:38 pm

felipe wrote:thank you Al; I have changed it; love it if someone could send this on
Sent it.

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by jcrmoon42 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:37 pm

Al-Hoot wrote:
felipe wrote:thank you Al; I have changed it; love it if someone could send this on
Sent it.
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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by recte44 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:21 am

I'd love to see more data in the ballots. I want to see career fielding stats if we want that to be considered more.

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by aaronweiner » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:01 am

And in future years (and maybe present ones!) WAR.

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by felipe » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:12 am

Thanks al

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by jcrmoon42 » Tue Jan 07, 2014 4:17 pm

Still awaiting six ballots from the JL and one ballot from the FL.

Clearly FL>JL

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by Manny » Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:36 pm

Damn I totally forgot about this too!! I will get on this tonight or tomorrow at the latest

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by jcrmoon42 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:41 pm

Now that we have more info available, I will look into that. My thinking had been that taking the ballot beyond the width of a normal screen wasn't a great idea as it required voters to scroll. You know how people feel about scrolling.

Still, I'm open to any suggestions.

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Re: 2013 Hall of Fame Ballot

Post by wualumni » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:57 am

Yeah I think WAR would definitely help clarify the differences between some of the players.


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