What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

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What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by niles08 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:29 am

I thoroughly enjoy Wednesdays, another episode!

This week we cover:

1). The Big Story---Milestones Galore

2.) Injury news

3.) The Angel Garcia contract along with the hidden money to help San Fernando down the road.

4.) "Stat(r) of the week"---Ronnie Hubbard and center field defense.

5.) LPT!

https://anchor.fm/bba/episodes/Episode-7-e7p3u8
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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by Spiccoli » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:01 am

Looking forward to it.

Any time frame for uploading to the BBA podcasts? It's the best place for me to listen to it.
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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by RonCo » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:09 am

I don't think Shaw was pushing Hubbard for a Zimmer. I think he was complaining that his numbers aren't matching his ratings.
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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by niles08 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:11 am

Spiccoli wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:01 am
Looking forward to it.

Any time frame for uploading to the BBA podcasts? It's the best place for me to listen to it.
I am not sure I know how to do that.
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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by niles08 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:13 am

RonCo wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:09 am
I don't think Shaw was pushing Hubbard for a Zimmer. I think he was complaining that his numbers aren't matching his ratings.
I agree. I don't think he straight said where is Hubbard's Zimmer, I think he actually was looking at Hubbard as a disappointment after reading it again which Hubbard isn't. He just hasn't had the chances.
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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by usnspecialist » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:08 am

Pretty much nailed my thinking on Garcia contract (and he is far from the only one I have like that).
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Post by niles08 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:17 am

I am surprised more don't go that route.
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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by usnspecialist » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:23 am

niles08 wrote:
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I am surprised more don't go that route.
you need to be able to comfortably clear 110m in revenue every year AND have quite a bit of bonus cash built up, otherwise you are going to run into money problems real quick.
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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by niles08 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:28 am

I would agree..in order to eclipse the $110 million salary cap you probably should have $110 million in revenue coming in or my math tells me it's probably not sustainable. I just meant for those teams who consistently are at the cap or close to it and have the money laying around. Why wouldn't they go this route to avoid being over the salary cap or to give them added flexibility if they are making a final push and only have $10 million in cap room but needed that starter who was worth $15,000,000.
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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by jleddy » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:54 am

I liked the Garcia deal details...it's creative, not disingenuous, and fair for both the team and player. I found it funny (and refreshing) that Justin spun it in favor of a rival general manager, as in Randy should have made the PA bonus harder for Garcia to achieve. Most would have gone the other way and called that incentive unfair gaming the system, which I don't see at all. It's a calculated risk (you still have to pay the guy, whether it's from cash or from salary cap), as Randy alluded in two posts above.

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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by RonCo » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:13 pm

This is something that comes up now and again. There are several teams who do this. Looking at YS9, we have $4.2M in achievement bonuses we could pay this year.

San Fernando has several players with these kinds of deals--SS Flores came to them with a $3M performance bonus that's easy to hit. Jon Reed has a $3M performance bonus he could hit if he keeps healthy. Maldonado has a $4M bonus that's achievable. Zeitler has a $4M bonus that for 200 IP he'll probably miss, but you never know. Wei has an achievable $5M bonus. Mendoza's got $3M. Now Garcia has $2M. Add them up and SFB has $24M in bonuses for performance--and that's not counting award and All-Star stuff. Randy could be on the hook for a heap big bill at the end of the year...and if his team continues to be sub .500, things are going to start getting really interesting.

Ultimately, SFB's in a "bet the business" kind of moment. It could work out great, or it could all crash and burn. Time will tell.

To me, these are some of the reasons the league is so great--it's possible to stay on top for long streaks, but (1) you have to use all the tools at your disposal, (2) there are real risks, and (3) the chances are that sooner or later you're going to crash.

YS9 was in a very similar situation during the transition from the Laloosh/Chavez years, and the 80-win season nearly killed us. If we hadn't had the wave of kids coming along behind them, we'd probably be in a rebuild right now.
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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by RonCo » Wed Oct 16, 2019 12:19 pm

There is also some question in my mind about the real impact these bonus offers make in a player's decision process. Ultimately, I think players are not nearly aggressive enough at seeking these dollars out. Given the structure of a salary cap league, any agent worth their salt would be asking for big, easy to achieve bonuses from the big revenue teams--but that never really happens.
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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by bschr682 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:56 pm

If I were in charge, I’d ban this practice. The entire point of the cap is league parity not who can creatively get around the cap. But it is what it is.
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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by RonCo » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:07 pm

If we were to ban (or severely limit) every use of cash above cap, which some folks seem to want to do, then the game becomes a simple spec race--which is considerably less interesting.
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Re: What's Brewing In The Brewster. Season 2, Episode 7

Post by RonCo » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:13 pm

What can be done to better limit the power of the practice is to take some additional action to reduce the amount of cash/revenue that flows to big revenue teams. I expect we'll take some additional action sometime soon that will help a bit.
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