2040, Rule 6 Draft

Rule 4 (Amateur) and Rule 5 (unprotected minor leaguers) Drafts.
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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by 7teen » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:17 pm

Why not......

Portland takes Jayden Harsnett from Manama.

Popular player. I have 10 Points to spare. Maybe we get him for cheap.
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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by usnspecialist » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:10 am

so just to be clear on this, the existing UMEBA deal is wiped away in all this right?
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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by Lane » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:14 am

Yes they become free agents and anyone can bid for their services, with the drafting team retaining rights to match any contract they sign.
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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by 7teen » Mon Sep 09, 2019 10:19 am

Yep. So all 32 BBA teams (and UMEBA teams) can bid on Harsnett in Free Agency. I get the right to match the offer anyone makes on him. If I decline then that team gets Harsnett.

Long story short, Manama loses Harsnett unless they re-bid on him and I decline to accept the offer.
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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by RonCo » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:17 pm

Manama also gets a Rule 7 pick from Portland when the time comes.

After some consideration, YS9 will also pass.
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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by JimBob2232 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:30 pm

RonCo wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:17 pm
Manama also gets a Rule 7 pick from Portland when the time comes.

After some consideration, YS9 will also pass.
Is it from portland...or from whoever signs him?

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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by usnspecialist » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:31 pm

san Fernando will pass as well.
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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by RonCo » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:35 pm

JimBob2232 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:30 pm
Is it from portland...or from whoever signs him?
From the Constitution: Each UMEBA team that lost a player or players in the Rule 6 Draft may replace that player with a Rule 5 eligible player (designated in game by "#") from the BBA team that drafted their player in the Rule 6 Draft.

So it would be from Portland.
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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by JimBob2232 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:51 pm

RonCo wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:35 pm
JimBob2232 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:30 pm
Is it from portland...or from whoever signs him?
From the Constitution: Each UMEBA team that lost a player or players in the Rule 6 Draft may replace that player with a Rule 5 eligible player (designated in game by "#") from the BBA team that drafted their player in the Rule 6 Draft.

So it would be from Portland.
Even if ultimately he signs with someone else? Interesting. Might want to consider re-looking at that rule going forward. Seems like the gaining team should be the one to lose the player.

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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by RonCo » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:00 pm

JimBob2232 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:51 pm
RonCo wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:35 pm
JimBob2232 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:30 pm
Is it from portland...or from whoever signs him?
From the Constitution: Each UMEBA team that lost a player or players in the Rule 6 Draft may replace that player with a Rule 5 eligible player (designated in game by "#") from the BBA team that drafted their player in the Rule 6 Draft.

So it would be from Portland.
Even if ultimately he signs with someone else? Interesting. Might want to consider re-looking at that rule going forward. Seems like the gaining team should be the one to lose the player.
Yeah, but it's the drafting team that causes the loss. And the drafting team who "buys" the topping rights. Technically, if BBA teams never had anything to lose by drafting a player, then the UMEBA could lose a kazillion players merely by sending them to FA...

That said, I can see it both ways in the end.
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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by jleddy » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:06 pm

JimBob2232 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:51 pm
RonCo wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:35 pm
JimBob2232 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:30 pm
Is it from portland...or from whoever signs him?
From the Constitution: Each UMEBA team that lost a player or players in the Rule 6 Draft may replace that player with a Rule 5 eligible player (designated in game by "#") from the BBA team that drafted their player in the Rule 6 Draft.

So it would be from Portland.
Even if ultimately he signs with someone else? Interesting. Might want to consider re-looking at that rule going forward. Seems like the gaining team should be the one to lose the player.
It's somewhat similar to the posting rules between MLB and Nippon Professional League...a team has to pay a posting fee just to negotiate. If they don't sign the Japanese player, they are still out the fee. Yes, the Rule 6 brings additional teams into the bidding process but the original BBA team who made the claim gets final rights to match, so it balances out.

I don't see any issues with how it's set-up, especially with how rare it will be for an UMEBA player under contract to be worth rostering in the BBA.
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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by aaronweiner » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:11 pm

Since the drafting team has right of first refusal on all contracts, there's no reason they shouldn't be the one penalized since they had the absolute right to sign the guy.

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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by JimBob2232 » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:14 pm

RonCo wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:00 pm
JimBob2232 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:51 pm
RonCo wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:35 pm


From the Constitution: Each UMEBA team that lost a player or players in the Rule 6 Draft may replace that player with a Rule 5 eligible player (designated in game by "#") from the BBA team that drafted their player in the Rule 6 Draft.

So it would be from Portland.
Even if ultimately he signs with someone else? Interesting. Might want to consider re-looking at that rule going forward. Seems like the gaining team should be the one to lose the player.
Yeah, but it's the drafting team that causes the loss. And the drafting team who "buys" the topping rights. Technically, if BBA teams never had anything to lose by drafting a player, then the UMEBA could lose a kazillion players merely by sending them to FA...

That said, I can see it both ways in the end.
Just seems like another obstacle to drafting a guy. 10ppt and lose a player for a guy you may not sign. Just something to keep an eye on. I’m not losing sleep over it.

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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by Lane » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:18 pm

JimBob2232 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:14 pm
RonCo wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:00 pm
JimBob2232 wrote:
Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:51 pm


Even if ultimately he signs with someone else? Interesting. Might want to consider re-looking at that rule going forward. Seems like the gaining team should be the one to lose the player.
Yeah, but it's the drafting team that causes the loss. And the drafting team who "buys" the topping rights. Technically, if BBA teams never had anything to lose by drafting a player, then the UMEBA could lose a kazillion players merely by sending them to FA...

That said, I can see it both ways in the end.
Just seems like another obstacle to drafting a guy. 10ppt and lose a player for a guy you may not sign. Just something to keep an eye on. I’m not losing sleep over it.
I hear what you're saying, but considering that we're taking away what's likely the best player on a UMEBA squad after only 4 years of service there, there should be obstacles to drafting a guy, whether the team ultimately signs them or not.
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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by ae37jr » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:35 pm

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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by 7teen » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:59 pm

I was thinking I'd lose a guy in return....

What are the parameters on the guy Manama can take back for the Rule 7? I mean obviously they can't nab first year draftees. I just need a reminder on what the details were there.
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Re: 2040, Rule 6 Draft

Post by 7teen » Mon Sep 09, 2019 2:01 pm

nevermind , I looked it up.

Portland will lose anyone that is Rule 5 Eligible.
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