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A Lefty at 3B

Post by GoldenOne » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:04 pm

For those of you that say a lefty cant play 3B.......happened on Saturday night, Nats @ Arizona.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxe ... 8030.shtml

Gerrardo Parra, an outfielder, came in to pitch. Didnt do so well (0 outs, 5 ERs; though threw some heat - 92mph on his FB) and was taken off the mound to play 3B!

He was there for Brian Dozier, normally the 2B, to pitch to a LHB. Once the LHB got on base, he was switched to 2B and Rendon was put back at his normal 3B position.
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by RonCo » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:28 pm

Nobody doubts a left hander can stand around the third base bag. :)
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by GoldenOne » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:41 pm

Yep, a lefty OF did. Against a LHB that was facing a 69 mph "fastball."
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by RonCo » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:45 am

Yeah, I watched that game here in Tucson. It was a farcical blow out, and Parra didn't so much play 3B as he stood in the general vicinity of the base while another non-pitcher gave up a bunch more runs. I would struggle to call this "playing third base."
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by GoldenOne » Mon Aug 05, 2019 8:11 am

Hey, in the scorebook he played 3B, that's all I'm saying about that. :cool:
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by shoeless.db » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:41 pm

GoldenOne wrote:
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Hey, in the scorebook he played 3B, that's all I'm saying about that. :cool:
Don't forget he had no errors and was no worse than a righty for the night.
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by usnspecialist » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:42 am

Still not as incredible as vince Velasquez out in LF last week. That was mindblowing.
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by bschr682 » Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:52 am

usnspecialist wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:42 am
Still not as incredible as vince Velasquez out in LF last week. That was mindblowing.
He is a pitcher. People are making way too much of a deal about that throw. And the catch was good but it’s not like he was Willie Mays out there. That struck me as a classic had to make a good play because he didn’t read it well enough to make it look routine.
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by usnspecialist » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:06 am

bschr682 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:52 am
usnspecialist wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:42 am
Still not as incredible as vince Velasquez out in LF last week. That was mindblowing.
He is a pitcher. People are making way too much of a deal about that throw. And the catch was good but it’s not like he was Willie Mays out there. That struck me as a classic had to make a good play because he didn’t read it well enough to make it look routine.
The arm strength isn't what surprised me, it was the accuracy.
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by GoldenOne » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:18 am

usnspecialist wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:06 am
bschr682 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:52 am
usnspecialist wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:42 am
Still not as incredible as vince Velasquez out in LF last week. That was mindblowing.
He is a pitcher. People are making way too much of a deal about that throw. And the catch was good but it’s not like he was Willie Mays out there. That struck me as a classic had to make a good play because he didn’t read it well enough to make it look routine.
The arm strength isn't what surprised me, it was the accuracy.
You're surprised that a pitcher had accuracy? Isnt that what you look for in a pitcher?
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by usnspecialist » Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:21 am

GoldenOne wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:18 am
usnspecialist wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:06 am
bschr682 wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:52 am


He is a pitcher. People are making way too much of a deal about that throw. And the catch was good but it’s not like he was Willie Mays out there. That struck me as a classic had to make a good play because he didn’t read it well enough to make it look routine.
The arm strength isn't what surprised me, it was the accuracy.
You're surprised that a pitcher had accuracy? Isnt that what you look for in a pitcher?
Have you seen my staff?

In all seriousness there is a difference between accuracy from 60'6" and accuracy from the outfield.
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by RonCo » Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:16 pm

usnspecialist wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:21 am
GoldenOne wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:18 am
usnspecialist wrote:
Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:06 am


The arm strength isn't what surprised me, it was the accuracy.
You're surprised that a pitcher had accuracy? Isnt that what you look for in a pitcher?
Have you seen my staff?

In all seriousness there is a difference between accuracy from 60'6" and accuracy from the outfield.
Yeah, but Velazquez also bounced it in front of the plate like your guys do, too. :)
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by usnspecialist » Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:23 pm

There was actually a pretty good story on the athletic (which everyone should be subscribing to) talking about how the Phillies found themselves with a pitcher in LF and a position player on the mound.
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by 7teen » Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:21 am

The Reds have been using Michael Lorenzon that way a lot this season. On several occasions this season he'll pitch the 7th or 8th inning then go play RF. I was at the game last Wednesday when he pitched an inning then went out and played RF and made a diving catch against the wall.
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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by RonCo » Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:25 pm

I wish the DH could just go away.

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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by jleddy » Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:13 pm

I'm going to do my best Ron Collins' "make a statement then play Devil's Advocate with my own words so I don't really commit to one side or the other" ( :D )...

As much as I like the old school of pitchers having to hit and all the strategy that comes along with it, and this pains me to say, but I actually think DH in both leagues is best for baseball. More offense (not that we need more guys who just homer and strikeout), 15 more players getting regular time, removes the batting/baserunning injury risk for pitchers, and less substitutions and double-switches makes for a quicker game. Plus it levels the playing field during interleague play and the World Series.

The best argument I've heard is that having a DH in just one league would be like if the AFC made the forward pass illegal or the Eastern Conference made 3 pointers worth 4...when you step back, it really doesn't make sense at all. Either make both leagues have the DH or do away with it completely.

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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by RonCo » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:09 pm

I concur that both leagues should be the same and respectfully submit that I remember back in the day that a real game could be played in under two hours at times. I'm getting old enough that my memory might be failing, but I don't recall DHs being around back then.

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Re: A Lefty at 3B

Post by RonCo » Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:13 pm

On a serious note, here's a fun little table from BBref wherein you can see the average time of games across the years, among other things (#batters per game actually went up as the DH came in...and that was before mega-reliever usage...which is kind of odd. Lots of interesting things to see here.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leag ... misc.shtml
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