Boise Stadium Rennovations

[Bumstead]

40 PPT's and $10M

Average LHB: .975
Average RHB: 1.075
HR LHB: 1.000
HR RHB: 1.075

This should eliminate the built-in stupidity of the stadium factors. Looks like I will have to wait a season to get rid of this silly logo. And I will have to wait 5 seasons to correct 2B/3B...If I did something wrong, please call Dug.

Thank you

Jeff

[usnspecialist]

Does the 5 year waiting period apply to the first 5 years after the stadium was built? Honestly not sure here.

[Bumstead]

That seems like it would be pretty shitty with the way this stadium was setup (and not by me).

[usnspecialist]

That seems like it would be pretty shitty with the way this stadium was setup (and not by me).

i was stuck for 3 years in a stadium and city I had no desire to be in, so my sympathy level is not high.

[GoldenOne]

And I’m paying dearly for several more seasons on a stadium i wouldnt have built and disnt think I could change yet.

[Bumstead]

hmmmm...well...I guess you have opinions on how I am allowed to use my PPs. Congrats.

[usnspecialist]

hmmmm...well...I guess you have opinions on how I am allowed to use my PPs. Congrats.

if you are using them in a manner deemed illegal by the constitution, yes I have opinions.... If recte says it is legal then I have no problem with it, but it isnt completely unreasonable to interpret the rules as meaning 5 year waiting period after any change (which would include new stadium construction).

[Bumstead]

hmmmm...well...I guess you have opinions on how I am allowed to use my PPs. Congrats.

if you are using them in a manner deemed illegal by the constitution, yes I have opinions.... If recte says it is legal then I have no problem with it, but it isnt completely unreasonable to interpret the rules as meaning 5 year waiting period after any change (which would include new stadium construction).

Maybe you can await what Recte says then instead of blowing up a post that is of no concern to you. Just to me and my future 58 win team...

[Bumstead]

The cost is 10 PP and $2,500,000 per factor changed (for unlimited changes to that one factor). Teams may, during the season they are renovating, change multiple factors (up to the 6 total); however, must pay the cost for each factor (so 60 PP + $15,000,000 to completely change your stadium). The boundaries within which you can change each factor are as follows:
AVG 0.90-1.10 (both L+R)
Doubles 0.80-1.20
Triples 0.80-1.20
Homers 0.80-1.20 (both L+R)
Teams are limited to using this PP reward only once every 5 years (to be tracked in the stadium maintenance spreadsheet).

This is the entire rule on renovations. Nowhere in the rule does it refer renovations having any connection/contingency to the timing of building a stadium (where does it say that Boise built a new stadium anyway? Based on the setup, I can only assume that they were so cheap that they just decided to use whatever crappy stadium they could find in Boise that the High School kids didn't want to use). If one wants to connect the 2 separate rules, then one should do that for next season.

On a side note, it would seem to be attractive to keeping new GM's to allow them some luxury of making some free alterations (during their first off-season) to enhance their immersion into the league without the use of PP's. In this suggestion, I'm making the assumption y'all like to retain new GM's for the most part.

[GoldenOne]

You forgot this part -
“Teams are limited to using this PP reward only once every 5 years (to be tracked in the stadium maintenance spreadsheet).”

I was told when I came in that that included new stadiums, whether you built them or not. I havent seen anything that changed that but you never know. Rules change though, you never know.

[Bumstead]

You forgot this part -
“Teams are limited to using this PP reward only once every 5 years (to be tracked in the stadium maintenance spreadsheet).”

I was told when I came in that that included new stadiums, whether you built them or not. I havent seen anything that changed that but you never know. Rules change though, you never know.

Rule doesn't mention new stadiums, which means the rule should be treated independently. If there needs to be interpretation, then it's a poorly written rule. I thought the use of PP's and the having of PP's was for fun & immersion within the league, not so that a couple of GM's that don't care for me can try to skew the rule so that I can't use my PP's for my enjoyment within the league...How does this even affect you two?

[crobillard]

Lol this seems childish. We should be able to have discussions about rules without anyone getting offended.

The discussion is about when the clock starts on the five years. I’m sure Matt has talked about this before regardless of whether it’s written in the constitution or not. Personally, I like it five years after the stadium was built for consistency. I don’t really feel strongly about anything though. I just wanted to chime in because I thought the reactions in this thread were silly. Chill out boys. It’s just pixels.

[Bumstead]

Kinda weird, I always find it childish when people chime in just to be judgmental...call it what you want I guess. I can read the rule. Seems like an easy rule to write, let alone read. If you want it to be different than it is written, then you change the writing so it says what you want it to say; otherwise, it is already written as it is and the building of a stadium (which I never did) has no relationship to renovations. If it did the rule would say so. If the rules are different than they are written, what part of the constitution can we rely upon?

I'm always amazed how GM's that have been in a league for what they perceive to be awhile want to make the league less enjoyable for new GM's...interesting approach. I appreciate the welcoming attitudes though.

[crobillard]

I'm always amazed how GM's that have been in a league for what they perceive to be awhile want to make the league less enjoyable for new GM's...interesting approach. I appreciate the welcoming attitudes though.

I want you to enjoy your time in the league. That doesn't mean that I'm going to support an interpretation of a rule that I believe is incorrect. Also, I'm just coming back to this league after a long hiatus and there are so many people that have been in this league longer than me, but this has always been a league in which we are allowed to discuss the rules. We've had open discussion about many rules. Perhaps you have a point and this rule should be discussed. Point is, I don't think the league's stance on the discussion of rules has changed, so I suggest you get used to rules being discussed and don't take it so personally.

[Bumstead]

I'm always amazed how GM's that have been in a league for what they perceive to be awhile want to make the league less enjoyable for new GM's...interesting approach. I appreciate the welcoming attitudes though.

I want you to enjoy your time in the league. That doesn't mean that I'm going to support an interpretation of a rule that I believe is incorrect. Also, I'm just coming back to this league after a long hiatus and there are so many people that have been in this league longer than me, but this has always been a league in which we are allowed to discuss the rules. We've had open discussion about many rules. Perhaps you have a point and this rule should be discussed. Point is, I don't think the league's stance on the discussion of rules has changed, so I suggest you get used to rules being discussed and don't take it so personally.

I would suggest before judging me that maybe you do some ground work on why those particular GM's decided to jump in on this particular "discussion" of the rules. Sometimes when GM's get called out, they try to needle a particular GM. There's nothing new here. Same shit from same type of people, new day.

BTW, welcome back, I am also back from a bit of a hiatus.

[GoldenOne]

Whatever dude. I chimed in because i came into a mew stadium and was told I couldnt make changes for 5 seasons. If the rules have changed or are now being interpreted differently then so be it.

I’m sure we all would like you to have an enjoyable experience but dont be a bully just cause you dont like being challenged over how you think things should be.

[usnspecialist]

For the record, I actually AGREE that how you are interpreting the rule has some merit, but I am not sure that is how we have been implementing it based on precedent. Just looking for an even playing field that is all.

[Bumstead]

Whatever dude. I chimed in because i came into a mew stadium and was told I couldnt make changes for 5 seasons. If the rules have changed or are now being interpreted differently then so be it.

I’m sure we all would like you to have an enjoyable experience but dont be a bully just cause you dont like being challenged over how you think things should be.

A bully? Explain that silly comment to me. I read the rule and interpreted it as it is written. I would apologize, but I don't know what I would apologize for. Y'all jumped in surprisingly to misinterpret the rule because I'm the one who wanted to use my PP's. Make your excuses, but based on your welcoming manner, I'm not a buyer or your BS. I would think you would be enjoying your trip rather spending your time bringing your feelings here.

[agrudez]

Both of their comments were pretty innocuous (particularly Goldenone's which didn't even mention your situation - it was entirely about his own experience) and then you kind of ratcheted it up to 1000.

You see that... right?

[Bumstead]

Both of their comments were pretty innocuous (particularly Goldenone's which didn't even mention your situation - it was entirely about his own experience) and then you kind of ratcheted it up to 1000.

You see that... right?

That's because I'm a bully...

You see any other PP requests where people debate the validity of the request? Neither do I. Thanks for the input...