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Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:44 pm
by StormZ_23
Trade has now been edited

Vancouver gets:
Dani López
Hyun-jong Yu (S A)
Arturo Cruz

Nashville gets: $1

Please leave Lopez and Cruz in DFA and put Yu in Short Season A.

Thanks for the quick deal and compromise Brett!

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:02 pm
by GoldenOne
EDITED: Confirmed. Everyone will be in DFA by 7pm tonight.

Lopez, Yu, and Cruz for $1.

Thanks Taylor! Easy fix!

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:16 pm
by Rubaboo
Can Moreland's salary be traded? Not trying to stir the pot, just curious if it's logistically possible.

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:39 pm
by StormZ_23
Rubaboo wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:16 pm
Can Moreland's salary be traded? Not trying to stir the pot, just curious if it's logistically possible.
Looks like we're going to find out.

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:42 pm
by recte44
Pretty sure that's not possible

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:48 pm
by GoldenOne
If you can split salaries, why wouldnt we be able to trade them?

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:52 pm
by recte44
Because they're tied to a player

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:59 pm
by jleddy
GoldenOne wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:48 pm
If you can split salaries, why wouldnt we be able to trade them?
MLB (and therefore OOTP) doesn't allow the transaction of retained salary. The NBA has trade exceptions regarding salaries but that's more about adjusting salary cap room by team, not the money owed itself. The NHL is the only league that allows to trade retained contracts and there are a bunch of limitations regarding it. It's been a while since I played FHM but I don't think they even allow that since it's so nuanced and rare.

The workaround would be to send $6.9M in cash.

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:01 pm
by GoldenOne
Doesnt make sense to me. If you can still trade the player when someone else is retaining their salary, you should be able to trade whatever the amount is that is being retained. Seems like just moving salary might be easier but who knows.

If this is actually not possible, then let me know so I can take them off waivers before the sim. I will only have about an hour tomorrow between the time I get home from work and have to leave for softball practice and then I wont be home before the sim.

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:02 pm
by GoldenOne
jleddy wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:59 pm
GoldenOne wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:48 pm
If you can split salaries, why wouldnt we be able to trade them?
MLB (and therefore OOTP) doesn't allow the transaction of retained salary. The NBA has trade exceptions regarding salaries but that's more about adjusting salary cap room by team, not the money owed itself. The NHL is the only league that allows to trade retained contracts and there are a bunch of limitations regarding it. It's been a while since I played FHM but I don't think they even allow that since it's so nuanced and rare.

The workaround would be to send $6.9M in cash.
While we mostly go by MLB rules, we do not necessarily follow them to a tee. Was already thinking about the $6.9M in cash. Would like to make sure the trading of the salary isnt possible first.

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:53 am
by recte44
THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE AS STRUCTURED

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:44 am
by usnspecialist
as a suggested alternative, maybe have taylor send brett 6.9m to cover the salary difference (if he has that in bonus cash?)

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:49 am
by GoldenOne
Goodness. Got it. We're trying to work something out.

Re:

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:54 am
by bcslouck
usnspecialist wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:44 am
as a suggested alternative, maybe have taylor send brett 6.9m to cover the salary difference (if he has that in bonus cash?)
I think part of it is an OOTP thing. Not even sure you can trade retained salary in game.

EDIT: Pretty sure you can't though.

Re: Re:

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:03 am
by usnspecialist
bcslouck wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:54 am
usnspecialist wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 9:44 am
as a suggested alternative, maybe have taylor send brett 6.9m to cover the salary difference (if he has that in bonus cash?)
I think part of it is an OOTP thing. Not even sure you can trade retained salary in game.

EDIT: Pretty sure you can't though.
I know, I meant to balance out the cash difference. Nashville would still have the salary on the books for cap purposes but would have the cash to pay it.

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:14 am
by GoldenOne
Thanks guys. Hoping we can work something else out instead of the cash transfer.

Re: Re:

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:07 am
by bcslouck
usnspecialist wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:03 am
I know, I meant to balance out the cash difference. Nashville would still have the salary on the books for cap purposes but would have the cash to pay it.
Yeah, but I think he wants the cap space over cash.

Re: Re:

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:34 am
by usnspecialist
bcslouck wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:07 am
usnspecialist wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:03 am
I know, I meant to balance out the cash difference. Nashville would still have the salary on the books for cap purposes but would have the cash to pay it.
Yeah, but I think he wants the cap space over cash.
Ya well I want to beat Rockville in the Landis, sometimes we just can't get what we want.

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:53 pm
by StormZ_23
Trade is now edited in original post

Re: Vancouver/Nashville

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:55 pm
by usnspecialist
Brett if you could quote the revised trade and confirm it, will make it easier on everyone.