Huntsville/California

[Ted]

Huntsville Receives:
P Vito Reyes (AA)
P Justin Archer (AA)
P Pedro Saludar (AAA)
OF Primio Anastacia (AAA)

California Receives:
P Heinrich Peithner - HSV Retains 5 mil of Peithner's Salary in 2037
OF Mike Manning

Please make Manning the backup Rf versus righties and the starting RF versus lefties
Please place Peithner as the 5th starter which has been left open

[agrudez]

Confirmed.

[usnspecialist]

Well fuck

[Lane]

Well fuck

At least Ted gave up good prospects?

[agrudez]

Well fuck

It's not too late to get into the arms race. Pretty much anyone not named Nicto, Torres or Reyes could be available for the right price.

[RonCo]

Interesting deal. Peithner is good, but I don't think I've been as high on him as others.

[Ted]

Interesting deal. Peithner is good, but I don't think I've been as high on him as others.

I'm not super high on him either. I see him as a #3 type. But my 5th starter was just not cutting it at all, and Rich Ayers was shitting the bed (after he killed LHP last year). I like Vito Reyes a bunch, but I already have 4 lefty starters. Archer has super interesting upside, but he's only a reliever. I draft pitching so heavily that I can almost always cobble a bullpen together. I have 3-4 players in AAA right now that probably should be in the Brewster. None are amazing, but each is serviceable.

[ae37jr]

Interesting deal. Peithner is good, but I don't think I've been as high on him as others.

I agree with you on this. He's been a great pitcher through his early-mid 20's. But he's fragile and has been highly abused(threw 104 pitches in less then 3 innings a start ago). I feel like the forearm stiffness, elbow strains and 2037 performances are a huge warning signs and he could turn into Fajardo or Crowe in a few seasons. But he is high end talent and a Landis in 2037 makes it all worth the gamble.

[agrudez]

Yikes, my rotation must have been really bad if a 3.81 FIP in '35 and a 3.34 FIP in '36 is a #3 SP.

I agree with you on this. He's been a great pitcher through his early-mid 20's. But he's fragile and has been highly abused(threw 104 pitches in less then 3 innings a start ago)

Unless OOTP has moved away from using PAPs then this start had pretty much no effect on his long term health - it's all about # of pitches/start over 100 with PAPs (with a pretty exponential trend as it gets further above 100, so 104 is relatively inconsequential).

[Ted]

Yikes, my rotation must have been really bad if a 3.81 FIP in '35 and a 3.34 FIP in '36 is a #3 SP.

I agree with you on this. He's been a great pitcher through his early-mid 20's. But he's fragile and has been highly abused(threw 104 pitches in less then 3 innings a start ago)

Unless OOTP has moved away from using PAPs then this start had pretty much no effect on his long term health - it's all about # of pitches/start over 100 with PAPs (with a pretty exponential trend as it gets further above 100, so 104 is relatively inconsequential).

Regarding the #3 comment. I'm a pitching snob. Maybe he's a 2. For me though, I like to have potential Nebraska candidates 1 and 2. At least with the types of offenses I put together. If I had better hitting groups (although this year and last I've been pretty damn good for me), I'd be happy with Peithner at the top of the rotation.

[agrudez]

Regarding the #3 comment. I'm a pitching snob.

Yeah, I know - just giving you a bit of grief.

FWIW I think he's probably ideally a #2 in a good rotation, so it's not like we're even that far off.

[Lane]

Yikes, my rotation must have been really bad if a 3.81 FIP in '35 and a 3.34 FIP in '36 is a #3 SP.

I agree with you on this. He's been a great pitcher through his early-mid 20's. But he's fragile and has been highly abused(threw 104 pitches in less then 3 innings a start ago)

Unless OOTP has moved away from using PAPs then this start had pretty much no effect on his long term health - it's all about # of pitches/start over 100 with PAPs (with a pretty exponential trend as it gets further above 100, so 104 is relatively inconsequential).

Regarding the #3 comment. I'm a pitching snob. Maybe he's a 2. For me though, I like to have potential Nebraska candidates 1 and 2. At least with the types of offenses I put together. If I had better hitting groups (although this year and last I've been pretty damn good for me), I'd be happy with Peithner at the top of the rotation.

You must get a good laugh out of seeing the rotations I put together every year then.

[Ted]

Yikes, my rotation must have been really bad if a 3.81 FIP in '35 and a 3.34 FIP in '36 is a #3 SP.



Unless OOTP has moved away from using PAPs then this start had pretty much no effect on his long term health - it's all about # of pitches/start over 100 with PAPs (with a pretty exponential trend as it gets further above 100, so 104 is relatively inconsequential).

Regarding the #3 comment. I'm a pitching snob. Maybe he's a 2. For me though, I like to have potential Nebraska candidates 1 and 2. At least with the types of offenses I put together. If I had better hitting groups (although this year and last I've been pretty damn good for me), I'd be happy with Peithner at the top of the rotation.

You must get a good laugh out of seeing the rotations I put together every year then.

It's all build strategy. If our teams were perfect everywhere, we'd win 130 games. I prefer to go for perfection in the rotation, because I hate when my team isn't even in a game because the starter gets crushed. On the other hand, if I had a Tyler Simmons offense, I could get away with weaker guys in the back half of the rotation because scoring 6 runs wouldn't be a lot to ask. But you have to have an identity. Unless you have increadible success with tanking and drafting, you have to be weak somewhere. If you're trying to "do everything" without about seven first round picks coming up at the same time, you're going to be a sub .500 team.

[usnspecialist]

Yikes, my rotation must have been really bad if a 3.81 FIP in '35 and a 3.34 FIP in '36 is a #3 SP.

I agree with you on this. He's been a great pitcher through his early-mid 20's. But he's fragile and has been highly abused(threw 104 pitches in less then 3 innings a start ago)

Unless OOTP has moved away from using PAPs then this start had pretty much no effect on his long term health - it's all about # of pitches/start over 100 with PAPs (with a pretty exponential trend as it gets further above 100, so 104 is relatively inconsequential).

I don't have my pitching spreadsheets handy right now, but peithner has been high on the PAP list a few times in his career.

[agrudez]

Yikes, my rotation must have been really bad if a 3.81 FIP in '35 and a 3.34 FIP in '36 is a #3 SP.

I agree with you on this. He's been a great pitcher through his early-mid 20's. But he's fragile and has been highly abused(threw 104 pitches in less then 3 innings a start ago)

Unless OOTP has moved away from using PAPs then this start had pretty much no effect on his long term health - it's all about # of pitches/start over 100 with PAPs (with a pretty exponential trend as it gets further above 100, so 104 is relatively inconsequential).

I don't have my pitching spreadsheets handy right now, but peithner has been high on the PAP list a few times in his career.

Yeah, I remember him and Tong showing up in one of your articles a year or two back. /woops

[recte44]