Molina trade

[cheekimonk]

Nashville/Boise & Molina

Bring it

[RT60]

Good trade for both sides. Nashville had prospects to spare and could take a chance with a fragile but potential game-changer. Boise was able to get three quality prospects for its future while Molina's stock was still high, which might not be the case if he suffers another significant injury.

[aaronweiner]

[bcslouck]

I think I would of left Jones out of the deal and wanted more potential value. Even if you only got 3, maybe 4 players instead.

I'm just jumping back into things but it looks like you're trying to cut salary, which is fair, but I see about $25M in team options that can be trimmed next year with potentially more if you non-tender players. I think I would of DFA'd and cut Jones if need be.

I see the concern for Molina's injury history, but I'm sure you had a lot of interest so I wouldn't let anyone use that to get less for him. I like Nickerson but I'd be concerned about him. He has a lot of minor arm and shoulder injuries and just had his first major to his elbow.

It probably sounds like I'm even more down on the trade than meh. I could be completely wrong in 5 year of course. Just think someone like Molina is someone you don't see come along often and with all that team control, should be worth a kings ransom.

[cheekimonk]

It's up now. Sry.

[BaseClogger]

My main criticism is getting more prospect return rather than savings on the Cinema Jones contract.

[Dington]

I think the most likely scenario is both pitchers are washed up in five years. Molina maybe a little longer because he is rated so highly, but his value will diminish quickly with just 3 stamina. Injuries have been hitting hard lately.

I’m not sure what we’re voting on here, to be honest. I’ll vote good because I think both teams benefit. Not a lot of teams had more to offer for Molina.

[RonCo]

It all depends on if Molina stays healthy. If he does NSH wins this going away. Otherwise it's a good move.

It would have been fun to see what a more public auction would have brought.

[RonCo]

I think the most likely scenario is both pitchers are washed up in five years. Molina maybe a little longer because he is rated so highly, but his value will diminish quickly with just 3 stamina. Injuries have been hitting hard lately.

I’m not sure what we’re voting on here, to be honest. I’ll vote good because I think both teams benefit. Not a lot of teams had more to offer for Molina.

Both pitchers are young, so "most likely" will not be washed up. It could happen, but I doubt it. Again the question here is whether Molina is effectively fragile. If he's healthy enough to weather the stopper role, he's gong to win Nebraskas. Or at least deserve them.

[Dington]

It would have been fun to see what a more public auction would have brought.

Oh it was very publicly stated in just about every channel on Discord

[Dington]

I think the most likely scenario is both pitchers are washed up in five years. Molina maybe a little longer because he is rated so highly, but his value will diminish quickly with just 3 stamina. Injuries have been hitting hard lately.

I’m not sure what we’re voting on here, to be honest. I’ll vote good because I think both teams benefit. Not a lot of teams had more to offer for Molina.

Both pitchers are young, so "most likely" will not be washed up. It could happen, but I doubt it. Again the question here is whether Molina is effectively fragile. If he's healthy enough to weather the stopper role, he's gong to win Nebraskas. Or at least deserve them.

The rate players have been getting injured the past couple seasons, I'm skeptical of long term health. Molina already has two serious injuries and Nickerson has a laundry list of less severe injuries and is labeled as fragile. I suspect Molina will get the fragile tag soon, too.

[jiminyhopkins]

It would have been fun to see what a more public auction would have brought.

We'll never know. I was told that Boise's trade block had been cancelled.

[BaseClogger]

It would have been fun to see what a more public auction would have brought.

Oh it was very publicly stated in just about every channel on Discord

He had multiple people post they needed to add him as friends because their DMs weren't going thru!

[Dington]

It would have been fun to see what a more public auction would have brought.

Oh it was very publicly stated in just about every channel on Discord

He had multiple people post they needed to add him as friends because their DMs weren't going thru!

Oh yeah. That's weird. I don't think we're friends because I don't typically add friends on Discord. Maybe because we had prior communication mine went thru? Maybe the others were initial conversations and were flagged, which still shouldn't be the case on a shared server, but could be a settings issue?

[RonCo]

I think the most likely scenario is both pitchers are washed up in five years. Molina maybe a little longer because he is rated so highly, but his value will diminish quickly with just 3 stamina. Injuries have been hitting hard lately.

I’m not sure what we’re voting on here, to be honest. I’ll vote good because I think both teams benefit. Not a lot of teams had more to offer for Molina.

Both pitchers are young, so "most likely" will not be washed up. It could happen, but I doubt it. Again the question here is whether Molina is effectively fragile. If he's healthy enough to weather the stopper role, he's gong to win Nebraskas. Or at least deserve them.

The rate players have been getting injured the past couple seasons, I'm skeptical of long term health. Molina already has two serious injuries and Nickerson has a laundry list of less severe injuries and is labeled as fragile. I suspect Molina will get the fragile tag soon, too.

The future is unknowable, of course. But that concern for fragility is the reason I would be staying him this year on very low pitch counts rather than have him throwing often. My goal would be to build pitches this year in hopes it buffers his PAP scores and avoids fragile tag. If that was successful, he'd become a stopper for me.

Regardless, his current value, while under team control, is immense.

[RonCo]

There exists a reasonable chance Boise will "win the deal," but that's no really the question here.

[Dington]

Both pitchers are young, so "most likely" will not be washed up. It could happen, but I doubt it. Again the question here is whether Molina is effectively fragile. If he's healthy enough to weather the stopper role, he's gong to win Nebraskas. Or at least deserve them.

The rate players have been getting injured the past couple seasons, I'm skeptical of long term health. Molina already has two serious injuries and Nickerson has a laundry list of less severe injuries and is labeled as fragile. I suspect Molina will get the fragile tag soon, too.

The future is unknowable, of course. But that concern for fragility is the reason I would be staying him this year on very low pitch counts rather than have him throwing often. My goal would be to build pitches this year in hopes it buffers his PAP scores and avoids fragile tag. If that was successful, he'd become a stopper for me.

Regardless, his current value, while under team control, is immense.

That's precisely the only reason he is in AAA for the next couple weeks.

[BaseClogger]

Oh it was very publicly stated in just about every channel on Discord

He had multiple people post they needed to add him as friends because their DMs weren't going thru!

Oh yeah. That's weird. I don't think we're friends because I don't typically add friends on Discord. Maybe because we had prior communication mine went thru? Maybe the others were initial conversations and were flagged, which still shouldn't be the case on a shared server, but could be a settings issue?

I mean I'll admit I tried to check in with him too and also had my message blocked. We have exchanged a few messages. He could have changed something on his end too.

[cheekimonk]

Both people have to agree to be friends, apparently. I think I had 2 or 3 GMs reach out and I was able to DM them. I went back and looked...no one mentioned Molina.

[cheekimonk]

I think the most likely scenario is both pitchers are washed up in five years. Molina maybe a little longer because he is rated so highly, but his value will diminish quickly with just 3 stamina. Injuries have been hitting hard lately.

I’m not sure what we’re voting on here, to be honest. I’ll vote good because I think both teams benefit. Not a lot of teams had more to offer for Molina.

Was just curious and all in jest. I haven't done a deal that high profile in a long while.