Are Drafts Shitty?

jiminyhopkins · Post by **jiminyhopkins** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:18 pm

Let's see, shall we? Let the debate commence.

shoeless.db · Post by **shoeless.db** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:28 pm

I don't mind the drafts being shitty after 10 or so guys. I wouldn't mind seeing 1-3 possibly elite players followed by 5-7 above average guys just to make the draft discussion and storylines moving forward more fun. No one will remember this draft, and, in a writing league, that's not great.

Note: I abstained from voting as you did not have a gif of a drunken Heartland GM peeing in his own closet.

BaseClogger · Post by **BaseClogger** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:34 pm

When I play single player the drafts look about the same as what I’ve seen in my couple years with the Brewster. I like top heavy drafts because they favor the teams picking at the top of the round.

YouTube · Post by **recte44** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:28 pm

They aren’t shitty, they’re realistic. Adjust expectations.

jiminyhopkins · Post by **jiminyhopkins** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:53 pm

recte44 wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:28 pm
They aren’t shitty, they’re realistic. Adjust expectations.

: grrg.png (208.39 KiB) Viewed 874 times

Post by **Lane** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:20 pm

The drafts are realistic. "good" drafts like the 2036ish years result in the bloated ratings across the league that we have now. Do you want "good" drafts and a league where ratings mean nothing? Or do you want "bad" drafts and a league where ratings make sense?

The reason we get frustrated about this is that it's the same question and same answer every season. We're doing what's best for the league.

bschr682 · Post by **bschr682** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 6:44 pm

The other option would be drafts that have a boat load of talent on paper but a high flameout rate. Not sure that’s any better.

jiminyhopkins · Post by **jiminyhopkins** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:24 pm

So it's realistic to have replacement level players in the first round of a 20 or 25 round draft.

Gotcha.

Post by **Lane** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:00 pm

Yes actually it is

Post by **Lane** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:03 pm

https://www.baseball-reference.com/draf ... type_unk=0

YouTube · Post by **recte44** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:04 pm

jiminyhopkins wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:24 pm
So it's realistic to have replacement level players in the first round of a 20 or 25 round draft.

Gotcha.

I actually have a rather long Media Guide article about 70% done that proves exactly this.

BaseClogger · Post by **BaseClogger** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 9:18 pm

Lane wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:03 pm
https://www.baseball-reference.com/draf ... type_unk=0

If you want a crappy draft you should link to 2016. And of course its the year the Reds picked second.

https://www.baseball-almanac.com/draft/ ... hp?yr=2016

Post by **Lane** » Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:44 pm

Honestly I just picked a random year that was recent and long ago enough that players should be contributing. But wowza

Trebro · Post by **Trebro** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:11 am

Lane wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 23, 2022 10:44 pm
Honestly I just picked a random year that was recent and long ago enough that players should be contributing. But wowza

WAR is a crude tool I'm not overly fond of but good grief not exactly an up and coming group of future Hall of Famers im that 2015 class.

Post by **Dington** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:14 am

Both drafts looked pretty average imo. There are some good players taken later. Shouldn’t be HoF players in every class.

datom25 · Post by **datom25** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:19 pm

Drafts are fine. It's the players that are overpowered/underpowered/dull (delete as appropriate)

YouTube · Post by **recte44** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:16 pm

We went way too long thinking a 7 contact was below average. Average is 5. #math

indiansfan · Post by **indiansfan** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:34 pm

Math is hard

jiminyhopkins · Post by **jiminyhopkins** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 3:53 pm

Tip of the hat to the conspiracy to deny me the 10 votes needed for two points in the poll. Good on ya mates!

neugey · Post by **neugey** » Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:44 pm

Although it is a bit more whiny than I really feel, I voted the first option for two reasons:

1) During my Draft Rewind features, I've seen how good drafts used to be, and they've fallen off a fair amount
2) Can't trade draft picks in the BBA, so rebuilding through the draft unless it's real slow and gradual is not as viable in this league compared to others that allow moving around in the draft.

The Brewster

The Brewster