Is "swiping" another team's staff cool or nah?

[recte44]

1. They are not free, your staff payroll is part of your budget.
2. Many coaches are created from former players and then modified with PPT.
3. They are already UNDER CONTRACT. They are not free agents.
4. If this is OK for coaches, why not for players?
5. Again, they are NOT free agents. They are under contract. Why is this hard to understand?

For a lateral yes - i'd agree. but id argue for a promotion this seems like a reasonable thing.

In that case, creating your own coach and developing them with PPT is completely useless because someone will just steal them. We're allowing a stupid OOTP setting to basically neuter an established part of our league writing reward system.

I can see this too.

[jiminyhopkins]

Well I can tell you that before FA sim 2, my whole organization was filled. If anyone disappears, i see no obligation to fill a staff position twice. So i guess PHX will have no rookie league manager this year.

[drummerJ99]

I didn't even realize this was part of OOTP till now. LOL While I'm not against it, I'd also have no problem if it wasn't allowed.

[mragland]

Hiring personnel is such a drag already. This certainly doesn't make the experience more fun, and has been mentioned, essentially moots a PPT reward.

[indiansfan]

Well I just had a guy swiped. He played his whole career here and I created him with ppt. I got 2 emails. One said he had an offer from another team and the next one that he had a new job. No chance for me to even make him a counter offer. This sucks. I’ve created pretty much every coach in my system. If we had a chance to counter, then I’d be more okay with it. But this way is garbage. Personally I will not swipe from other teams, as I am ethically against it.

[Jwalk100]

I had the same thing happen. I tried to counter offer but he didn't want to talk.

I dont spend PPT on coaches because they may provide some advantage in game but not worth spending on it. Just my opinion.

I feel the same way about sniping these guys, I will not try to swipe but if you take one of my coaches that's fine. You just saved me some money.

[recte44]

Let me see if it can be turned off

[Dington]

Let me see if it can be turned off

Even if it can't be turned off in-game, it can be the same thing as an illegal contract given to a player where it's reversed. I don't really care either way since we're all on the same level playing fair. This rule isn't more advantageous for anyone more than the next guy, but I understand about the spending of PPT to create a coach.

[indiansfan]

Or at the very least, if a guy gets swiped that you created with PPT then the team should be able to create a replacement for free. Personally I'd rather keep the guy I originally created, but if not then at least give me a comp replacement. Otherwise there is no reason to keep this PPT reward. For instance I had 17 guys on my coaching staff that were created using PPT. Everyone, but 2 of my coaching positions were Calgary retirees that I created. So for me it was a reward that I used a lot. However, if somebody can swipe them, why should I continue to use it?

If I at least get the chance to create a replacement, without spending more PPT, than I can live with that. Otherwise it is like saying you can convert a pitcher to a reliever, sign him to a contract, but somebody else can come in and sign him for more, you lose the player and the PPT. Not sure why the game lets coaches sign who are already under contract. That is not how it works in the real world. In the real world a team would have to let you out of your contract in order to sign with the other team. My guy still had 3 years left on his contract.

[Jwalk100]

Page 66 of the MLB Rule Book states it is 'Tampering'.

(k) TAMPERING. To preserve discipline and competition, and to prevent the enticement of players, coaches, managers and umpires, there shall be no negotiations or dealings respecting employment, either present or prospective, between any player, coach or manager and any Major or Minor League Club other than the Club with which the player is under contract, or acceptance of terms, or by which the player is reserved or which has the player on its Negotiation List, or between any umpire and any baseball employer other than the baseball employer with which the umpire is under contract, or acceptance of terms, unless the Club or baseball employer with which the person is connected shall have, in writing, expressly authorized such negotiations or dealings prior to their commencement.



I wonder why they put that in the game then?

[lordtoffee]

I don't have a problem with it, but looks like I'm in the minority. I don't see a problem with swiping, as it would be hard for the developers determine tampering.