The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
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The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
I was updating the Unified History yesterday, and started working on a feature that I'll probably submit for the Media Guide (if I finish in time).
Anyway, Chip Puckett (.321/.392/.426, 11 HR, 113 RBI) (son of some dude named Charles Puckett (.313/.416/.539, 695 HR, 2071 RBI)) made his first All-Star appearance this year.
It just so happens that his dad holds the BBA record with 19 All-Star appearances. So it begs the question, how many All-Star games Chip Puckett (9/8/3/7/9 Talents) appear in?
Anyway, Chip Puckett (.321/.392/.426, 11 HR, 113 RBI) (son of some dude named Charles Puckett (.313/.416/.539, 695 HR, 2071 RBI)) made his first All-Star appearance this year.
It just so happens that his dad holds the BBA record with 19 All-Star appearances. So it begs the question, how many All-Star games Chip Puckett (9/8/3/7/9 Talents) appear in?
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Re: The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
That's an interesting question. I selected 7-10, but so much uncertainty exists in a 21 year old. His brilliance with the glove sets him aside, though. Barring a development hit, it could be more.
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Re: The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
He had a .3572 BABIP this season as someone whom should have a <.3 BABIP (since his AVK>CON) so he's not an insurmountable obstacle. Between expected regression of stats (granted, not enough to keep him from being really good - especially with that glove) and potential for injury/ratings drips I think 7-10 is a big ask - for anyone. 3-6 feels like a safe, reasonable play.
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Re: The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
I don't have calculations and performance maps in front of me, so I could be wrong, but I think Puckett's BABIP projects to much higher than .300. So while I could be wrong, seeing that he's never created shy of .308 at any level (over more than 2500 at bats) for a whole season I'm pretty comfortable with that statement.
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Re: The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
Are you looking at Charles or Chip? Chip had a .277 aggregate BABIP over 487 AA+AAA innings in 2034.
At any rate, I'd be interested in seeing your maps, et al. when you have them. Maybe I'm not factoring his low POW enough into my BABIP expectation. In general, though, the AVK>CON=<.300 BABIP (and vice versa) has been a solid rule of thumb for me.
At any rate, I'd be interested in seeing your maps, et al. when you have them. Maybe I'm not factoring his low POW enough into my BABIP expectation. In general, though, the AVK>CON=<.300 BABIP (and vice versa) has been a solid rule of thumb for me.
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Re: The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
Chip. Add all his numbers that year together and you get .308.
I'm fairly sure Markus wouldn't be happy if I shared the maps I've created...you can do it yourself with considerable work, though.
But I can tell you directly that your rule of thumb is not a very good rule of thumb because while it's right on occasion, there are far too many cases where it is wrong for it to be a reliable read. Here's an example directly from the editor where I hold AVK and BABIP constant and adjust POWER, then display CON.
I'm fairly sure Markus wouldn't be happy if I shared the maps I've created...you can do it yourself with considerable work, though.
But I can tell you directly that your rule of thumb is not a very good rule of thumb because while it's right on occasion, there are far too many cases where it is wrong for it to be a reliable read. Here's an example directly from the editor where I hold AVK and BABIP constant and adjust POWER, then display CON.
Code: Select all
Example of Avk BABIP POW CON
AVK > CON 100 100 1 90
AVK <= CON 100 100 100 101
AVK < CON 100 100 200 144
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Here's the same structure with the OOTP estimates for stats:
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Example of Avk BABIP POW CON AB H HR SO AVG BABIP
AVK > CON 100 100 1 90 550 135 0 100 0.245 0.300
AVK <= CON 100 100 100 101 550 146 16 100 0.265 0.300
AVK < CON 100 100 200 144 550 170 50 100 0.309 0.300
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Re: The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
So POW does factor more than I thought, then. I'll have to find some time to do some leg work on my end to recalibrate. Thanks.
That said, isn't Chip kind of example #1? His POW is really low and CON is just slightly under AVK - all like example #1, so now you might expect BABIP to be right around .300 based on that. Certainly not nearly .36 at any rate.
That said, isn't Chip kind of example #1? His POW is really low and CON is just slightly under AVK - all like example #1, so now you might expect BABIP to be right around .300 based on that. Certainly not nearly .36 at any rate.
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Re: The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
Here is one with a case on the extremes from the editor added at the bottom:
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Example of Avk BABIP POW CON AB H HR SO AVG BABIP
AVK > CON 100 100 1 90 550 135 0 100 0.245 0.300
AVK <= CON 100 100 100 101 550 146 16 100 0.265 0.300
AVK < CON 100 100 200 144 550 170 50 100 0.309 0.300
AVK < CON 210 200 1 226 550 215 0 12 0.391 0.400
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Re: The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
Just in case...I had to edit that quickly because I left the wrong number in the Ks.
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And another with POWER also amped:
Code: Select all
Example of Avk BABIP POW CON AB H HR SO AVG BABIP
AVK > CON 100 100 1 90 550 135 0 100 0.245 0.300
AVK <= CON 100 100 100 101 550 146 16 100 0.265 0.300
AVK < CON 100 100 200 144 550 170 50 100 0.309 0.300
AVK < CON 210 200 1 226 550 215 0 12 0.391 0.400
AVK < CON 210 200 200 250 550 245 50 12 0.445 0.400
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Re: The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
You can make hundreds or thousands of cases where AVK < CON and BABIP > .300.
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Re: The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
Chip can't carry Charles' jock strap!
Actually he did one time in the locker room as a little tyke running around in Madison's clubhouse. I think the little fella was wearing it on his head.
Actually he did one time in the locker room as a little tyke running around in Madison's clubhouse. I think the little fella was wearing it on his head.
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Re: The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
only 10 votes? would like to put this in my media guide feature but would love more than 1/3 of the managers responding.
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Re: The Pucketts - Chip and Charles
I think Tu-fu is going to take more than a couple all-star bids from him, and Gonzalez and Compton will also snag a couple.
Voted 3-6, but I think it's even on the low end of that (3-4)
Voted 3-6, but I think it's even on the low end of that (3-4)
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