Guess the Extension Demand

[usnspecialist]

Lets play a fun game. I just traded for Jayden Harsnett and he is a FA after this season. What do you think he is asking for per year for an extension? Options will be round numbers, but cover every value that starts with that number (i.e guess 10 for anything from 10.0 to 10.9)

[Ted]

Wow. I wouldn't want to give him 10 mil per. Those are some awful options to choose from.

[Spiccoli]

?? Is he asking for more than $12 million now? What the?

His demands have been rising as the season wore on. I posted an article about it earlier. There was no way we could resign him, but I was keeping tabs to see if he would come back to earth.

Seriously, if he’s able to sign for half that as a free agent.... then again someone might pay him. I thought the same about Eilzando.

[RonCo]

I'm hoping these are good signs that players value going to free agency more than they once did.

[Lane]

I'm hoping these are good signs that players value going to free agency more than they once did.

I hope so too. More free agency would definitely be better for the league.

[usnspecialist]

Wow. I wouldn't want to give him 10 mil per. Those are some awful options to choose from.

im in agreement with you on both counts.... I will post a screenshot of the contract demand tonight and the winner (or winners) can gloat a bit.

[jiminyhopkins]

I voted for 20 mil, one because I am a pessimist and two because these OOTP contract demands are just stupid. Its almost as if the game is not aware that we have a salary cap.

[RonCo]

I voted for 20 mil, one because I am a pessimist and two because these OOTP contract demands are just stupid. Its almost as if the game is not aware that we have a salary cap.

If I'm "right" it's the player's way of saying "I'm planning on going to FA, but I'm open to you overpaying me if you want to."

[JimBob2232]

I'm hoping these are good signs that players value going to free agency more than they once did.

I hope so too. More free agency would definitely be better for the league.

Agree. More free agent selling for cheap at the deadline (ala Manny Machado).

Side note, but perhaps it’s time to consider removing the years of service / contract length restrictions. Seems to be much improved than it was.

[usnspecialist]

I'm hoping these are good signs that players value going to free agency more than they once did.

I hope so too. More free agency would definitely be better for the league.

Agree. More free agent selling for cheap at the deadline (ala Manny Machado).

Side note, but perhaps it’s time to consider removing the years of service / contract length restrictions. Seems to be much improved than it was.

i am in agreement with fred on this one. I assume that rule was put in place because guys were selling out their arby years for stupid cheap prices? As a point of reference here is a screen shot of superstar 1B Tai Hoi Wie and his contract demands. Obviously this contract would be illegal under league rules, but he certainly isnt giving himself a discount here...

EDIT: his service time is 3 years, 132 days.

[RonCo]

True. But the real question is not what he's asking for, but what he would accept. The other aspect of it is how a player in their first year would react. I'm neither for or against removing such restrictions on the face of it, but I would suggest being very careful.

[usnspecialist]

True. But the real question is not what he's asking for, but what he would accept. The other aspect of it is how a player in their first year would react. I'm neither for or against removing such restrictions on the face of it, but I would suggest being very careful.

I would be in favor of keeping the 3 year restriction because of the rookie reaction that you mentioned, but once you hit 3 I think it is worth considering removing the 3 year max restriction and opening it up to signing a full league contract (currently at 6 max).

[usnspecialist]

Congratulations to Brett and Ted, you guys win the cement bicycle. We can all discuss how ludicrous this is now.

[JimBob2232]

True. But the real question is not what he's asking for, but what he would accept. The other aspect of it is how a player in their first year would react. I'm neither for or against removing such restrictions on the face of it, but I would suggest being very careful.

It would need some testing, for sure. But if the game engine is smart enough that this is no longer an issue, no need restricting anymore.

[RonCo]

It would need some testing, for sure. But if the game engine is smart enough that this is no longer an issue, no need restricting anymore.

I agree with that completely. The fewer house restrictions needed, the better.

[jiminyhopkins]

I agree. No need to wait for 5 yrs service time anymore. You see teams in MLB signing guys early all the time. And OOTP certainly has our young guys asking for a ton of money at a much earlier age.

Let's lower the restriction to 3 yrs service this offseason and see where it goes.

[Lane]

I'd argue that it's not that ludicrous. You're asking the guy what it would take to forego free agency. His ask should be big. And at 28, I'm sure there's a team that would pony up that dough for him.

[usnspecialist]

I'd argue that it's not that ludicrous. You're asking the guy what it would take to forego free agency. His ask should be big. And at 28, I'm sure there's a team that would pony up that dough for him.

well im not sure I exactly qualify as the best person to discuss big money OF contracts (or you for that matter), but I would go on record as being extremely surprised if he got more than $50 million guaranteed on his next deal (basically half of what he wants in an extension).

[RonCo]

Let me introduce you to Mr. McQuade.

[ae37jr]

well im not sure I exactly qualify as the best person to discuss big money OF contracts (or you for that matter), but I would go on record as being extremely surprised if he got more than $50 million guaranteed on his next deal (basically half of what he wants in an extension).

Isn't he essentially the same player as Lecaze? Actually I'd value Harsnett just a slight bit better cause he can atleast hit LHP a little bit. Lecaze got $80 million without hitting free agency. Not everyone(myself included) view him as a CF anymore, but I gaurantee that at least 15 teams do. And if one of them is in need of a centerfielder, the will pay a premium for Harsnett because there are rarely any competent CF that make it to free agency. It will probably end badly, but it will happen.

*edit* Jorge Vargas is also comparable and got $70 million.