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Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:54 pm
by usnspecialist
i would say both of our teams have improved as a result of this (and i did eventually address the pitching issues in subsequent moves).

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 9:45 pm
by usnspecialist
This is fun to read now....

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Sat May 19, 2018 10:18 pm
by agrudez
I'm only really laughing at one comment in the thread - and it's recent.

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:23 pm
by udlb58
usnspecialist wrote:This is fun to read now....
I stand behind my comments. He's now on the wrong side of 30, isn't clearly the best player at his position (I'd still rather have Winson on Noboru than Gillstrom), and Montreal still picked up 4 guys under 25 who can be stars (and are now BBA ready) plus a cheap RF with 30+ HR power and solid defense.

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:32 pm
by usnspecialist
udlb58 wrote:
usnspecialist wrote:This is fun to read now....
I stand behind my comments. He's now on the wrong side of 30, isn't clearly the best player at his position (I'd still rather have Winson on Noboru than Gillstrom), and Montreal still picked up 4 guys under 25 who can be stars (and are now BBA ready) plus a cheap RF with 30+ HR power and solid defense.
i think this one falls into the "win/win" deals. Plus i have been considering shifting gillstrom to 2nd, and in that case he is absolutely the best at his position.

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:14 pm
by udlb58
usnspecialist wrote:
udlb58 wrote:
usnspecialist wrote:This is fun to read now....
I stand behind my comments. He's now on the wrong side of 30, isn't clearly the best player at his position (I'd still rather have Winson on Noboru than Gillstrom), and Montreal still picked up 4 guys under 25 who can be stars (and are now BBA ready) plus a cheap RF with 30+ HR power and solid defense.
i think this one falls into the "win/win" deals. Plus i have been considering shifting gillstrom to 2nd, and in that case he is absolutely the best at his position.
usnspecialist wrote:I actually thought about putting him at 2B, but I wanted to see what Martinez is capable of. Of course gillstrom getting hurt for an indefinite period of time didn't help...
You've only gotten about 0.2 WAR out of 2B since acquiring Gillstrom and it hasn't hindered you much. Guess it just depends on what you get in FA/trades. Gives you flexibility to add a 3B if the value is there.

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:17 pm
by usnspecialist
You've only gotten about 0.2 WAR out of 2B since acquiring Gillstrom and it hasn't hindered you much. Guess it just depends on what you get in FA/trades. Gives you flexibility to add a 3B if the value is there.[/quote]

im strongly considering crossing the #mendozaline next year.

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:34 pm
by Rubaboo
usnspecialist wrote:You've only gotten about 0.2 WAR out of 2B since acquiring Gillstrom and it hasn't hindered you much. Guess it just depends on what you get in FA/trades. Gives you flexibility to add a 3B if the value is there.
im strongly considering crossing the #mendozaline next year.[/quote]

YES. Suck it, Brett.

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 9:36 pm
by usnspecialist
Rubaboo wrote:
usnspecialist wrote:You've only gotten about 0.2 WAR out of 2B since acquiring Gillstrom and it hasn't hindered you much. Guess it just depends on what you get in FA/trades. Gives you flexibility to add a 3B if the value is there.
im strongly considering crossing the #mendozaline next year.
YES. Suck it, Brett.[/quote]

i was wondering who of you two would see that first.

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Thu May 24, 2018 9:23 am
by bschr682
You should be ashamed of yourselves...

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:13 pm
by usnspecialist
bumping this because of a discussion we had on slack regarding blockbuster deals. Funny that despite being the oldest player in this deal Gillstrom is STILL the best player in the group 7 seasons later by a comfortable margin.

P.S the #mendozaline worked out very nicely in my favor.

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:10 pm
by bschr682
What was the war versus war number? Didn’t you lose this badly?

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:25 pm
by Lane
usnspecialist wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 2:13 pm
bumping this because of a discussion we had on slack regarding blockbuster deals. Funny that despite being the oldest player in this deal Gillstrom is STILL the best player in the group 7 seasons later by a comfortable margin.

P.S the #mendozaline worked out very nicely in my favor.
Gonna need you to post the trade with links please. Otherwise I judge that you lost horribly.

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:10 pm
by usnspecialist
bschr682 wrote:
Tue Oct 29, 2019 3:10 pm
What was the war versus war number? Didn’t you lose this badly?
36 WAR in 5+ years for me (not counting this season since he left and came back or his season in NO).
70 WAR in 7 years for the 5 guys I gave up.

4 ASG in 5 years for gillstrom
5 ASG for the other guys combined

Lane, I'm on my phone so I can't do links right now.

Re: Who won the gillstrom trade

Posted: Tue Oct 29, 2019 7:33 pm
by bcslouck
You have to take into account the production he got on league minimum. So while WAR per player favors Gillstrom, you probably paid more money wise. Not bad for either side.