Trade Review 2027 #5 - Mid to late June

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Trade Review 2027 #5 - Mid to late June

Post by Ted » Tue Aug 30, 2016 7:48 am

This handful of deals took place mid June, as the playoff contenders continue to re-tool. The trend seems to have started a bit early this year, as there are simply a ton of trades from May onward.

Atlantic City/Huntsville
Atlantic City receives:
RF/LF Jose Perez

Huntsville receives:
SP Dan Estrada (prospect)
SP Angel Castro (prospect)
OF Francios Fremont
RP Cord McNally

[list][*]Jose Perez is a pretty decent option in either corner OF position. He's maybe a tad subpar defensively, but brings a patient, powerful lefty bat to the lineup, capable of being a middle of the order guy when facing righties. He doesn't hit left handed pitching well. He's still arbitration eligible into 2029, ad thus has a reasonable salary for his abilities.[/list]



[list][*]Dan Estrada is a 23 year old righty who at the time of the trade had the tooks to be a number 2-3 type starter. A four pitch guy who admittedly needs to work on his change a great deal to succeed at the ML level, Estrada has the stuff to handle righties and lefties with ease. He's rather underdeveloped for a 23 year old, and needs to really pick it up to avoid being a bust.
[*]Soft tossing lefty describes Angel Castro perfectly. The 20 year old relies on an above average slider and very ood change to complement his rather average fastball. He also has lumped since the trade, but at the time looked like a 3-4 type guy, but again, a bit underdeveloped for his age (not as bad as Estrada).
[*]Francois Freemont is on his way out of the Brewster. He can still draw a walk with the best of him, but his bat speed has regressed to the point where he doesn't belong on a ML roster. He just can't hit anymore. His glove, once a plus tool, is now only average in left as well. He's about replacement level at this point, and there are younger, less expensive options if that is what you want.
[*]At this point in his career, Cord McNally is a lefty specialist. While the baseball he throws still moves, and he makes his location, right handed batters are picking it up so easily that it doesn't matter. [/list]

This is a curious trade for Huntsville when looked at in a vacuum. Kyle just doesn't trade for prospects. Similarly, this is a case of a contending team trading a play in his prime for some aged vets and prospects, in a clear downgrade of the active roster. However, with a little insight it makes more sense. (I'm trying to remember here). First, scouts feel Perez is overachieving compared to his actual ability. Stever has long not liked to hear that. He also is in a difficult situation from a salary standpoint, and while Perez is reasonably paid, his salary is money that could be spent elsewhere. On the flipside of the coin, this trade is weird for the Gamblers too. Ryan has been putting off a rebuild for a couple years now, and this is more of a trade a contending team makes than one in his shoes. However, Perez is young enough to work, and the prospects he gave up are flawed (mainly from a development standpoint. The vets are eminently replaceable. On a pure asset for asset basis, this is a very fair trade. I'd call it a B and C+ pitching prospects plus some minor vet parts for a B+ corner OF in his prime. Right on the money in my mind.


Grades
Atlantic City
Talent: B+
Organizational: B
Huntsville
Talent: B+
Organizational: C+



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Madison/Carolina
Madison receives:
2.25 million dolares

Carolina receives:
SP Brooks McHall

[list][*]That's some money I guess.[/list]



[list][*]McHall is a 31 year old lefty without any real flaws, but no real strengths either. He's been a back of the rotation starter in Madison for the last few years, with mixed results. One wonders if a move to the pen would help him out. He's cheap at the very least, and has the tools to contribute at times, although consistency might be an issue.[/list]

I'm not really certain what Madison's motivation for making this deal is. McHall is cheap and fills a spot on the roster. I get that Salazar's contract makes every little dollar count, but I had to figure they could have found a use for McHall. Then I looked at their pitching staff. McHall would have been the fourth highest salary on it. Amazing. I think this was a injury replacement type pickup for Carolina. I'm going to guess it is since having a starter go down early with a season ending injury is an annual tradition for them.


Grades
Madison
Talent:N/A
Organizational: C+
Carolina
Talent: C-
Organizational: C+



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Montreal/Halifax
Montreal receives:
1B Cisco Guerrero

Halifax:
SS Mario Gomez (prospect)
IF Manuel Roman
SP Lee McHone (prospect)

[list][*]Nightmare has an apt nickname. He's a franchise cornerstone. He may not mash right handed pitching at the level of some of the big split lefty sluggers, but he still has superior contact AND power skills against righties, while being a one man wrecking crew for lefty starters. His home run totals haven't been what one would expect for a player of his ability, but one expects that will improve as he matures. He can field his position with the best of them.[/list]



[list][*]Mario Gomez looks like a AAAA player or super defensive sub to me. He is lefty and near full developed at 22, but even if he regains some contact hitting ability, he'll never be more than a slap hitter without some sort of bumping miracle. He's a far cry from the player Montreal payed 2 million for in IFA back in 2022.
[*]Manuel Roman is an OKAY option at second. Looks like he can field there a little, and can play some third as well. His bat is concerning as if he's not able to generates slap hits against righties and use his wheels to get to first, he has no other way to get on base.
[*]Lee McHone is an interesting player. He's a 20 year old righty with great breaking stuff and a sinker with a lot of late action. However, he has marginal at best control as currently projected, and has shown no signs of developing it, while is motion is already as good as it will get. He could be a decent 4th starter type if he develops, but I have serious concerns about his ability to do so.[/list]

This is a bad trade for Halifax. There just aren't many players like Guerrero. His ability to hit righties and lefties for average and power is not common. While we are a league where lefty power bats are the gold standard, guys like Guerrero don't grow on trees. Yes Halifax is a mess, but why trade a 24 year old for cents on the dollar? None of the guys they got for Guerrero look like impact players without major bumps. McHone may not even develop. Great deal for Montreal. Gave up oddballs and flawed prospects for a real stud, not even in his prime years yet.


Grades
Montreal
Talent: A+
Organizational: A+
Halifax
Talent: C+
Organizational: F



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Birmingham/Huntsville
Birmingham receives:
P Pavel Bure Jr. (prospect)

Huntsville receives:
SS Juan Rodriguez

[list][*] Bure Jr is a 20 year old lefty with an incredible fastball and an assortment of meh secondary pitches. He also can't hit the broad side of a barn. Unless he figures out how to get the ball over the plate, his best bet would be an RP conversion, and even then he may still walk to many to be a viable option in the Brewster. [/list]



[list][*]Juan Rodriguez is a decent right handed half of a platoon at either short or second for a team with a lefty bat at those positions. Don't expect much else out of him however.[/list]

Huntsville gets bonus points for platooning Juan Rodriguez with the right handed, less talented version of himself. $20 says Kyle still pats himself on the back a bit every time he looks at his lineups. Other than that, this is a nice litte fair trade. Project for a platooner/backup that doesn't do Birmingham any good at the moment. Good stuff.


Grades
Huntsville
Talent: C-
Organizational: B+
Birmingham
Talent: C-
Organizational: B+



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California/Omaha
California receives:
SP Cisco Morales (prospect)

Omaha receives:
DH Brian Whitten

[list][*]Morales is a 6 pitch 19 year old who is on a good developmental track to reach his ceiling, which appears to be that of a number 2 starter. His strong sinker and forkball give him good options against both lefties and righties around which to spot in his complementary pitches. (he has lost a point of motion since the trade, dammit)[/list]



[list][*]Whitten is a former batting title holder who after just over a year of playing in California's cavernous lefty killing park, just wasn't earning his salary. When he's hitting, he's a .310 average, 25 homer guy that belongs in the middle of the order. (He hit 15 homers in 600 at bats in Cali, compared to 17 in 367 in Omaha)[/list]

This is a great trade by the brilliant GM of the Crusaders. Keeping Whitten in Calfornia was a waste of a terrific hitter, but it can be hard to get any value for a guy underachieving the way he was. Kudos to Fred in Omaha to have the wisdom and foresight to understand what would happen once Whitten donned a Barnstormers uniform. In all seriousness, I'm really happy with this move. I was dreading being stuck with Whitten. Now his 10 mil per salary looks pretty good for whoever has him. Morales is essentially the player he was traded for in a larger deal with Brooklyn last season, and that was seen as pretty fair at the time. Given he was playing terribly for me and sucking up 10 mil, this is essentially a something for nothing move. Omaha makes a great move as well, given that they had nothing at DH and only had to flip a second tier prospect for a then 27 year old middle of the order bat.


Grades
California
Talent:B+
Organizational: A
Omaha
Talent: B+
Organizational: A



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Vancouver/Tuscon
Vancouver receives:
1B Raul Rodriguez

Tuscon receives:
P Donald Foster

[list][*]Rodriguez was covered in a previous edition. He's a recap. He's off his peak years. He's a AAAA guy now and can't field. We also now know from Vancouver that he was making too much money.[/list]



[list][*]I actually wanted foster in FA. He's looks like a solid middle relief type. However, he wanted to much for a 24 year old with no track record, and Brett gave it to him. Three million is too much for a middle reliever anyway, let alone one who has never pitched in the Brewster before.[/list]

I'm not sure I understand this trade for Tuscon. They have a bunch of young pitching prospects. Why pay Foster, who stunk in limited time in Vancouver in 2028? Yes Rodriguez was making more money this year, but he was a free agent at season's end. Either way, it doesn't really kill them. Vancouver gets out of a bad deal for another bad deal, but takes a flyer on a once was. This deal is about (probably misplaced) optimism.


Grades
Vancouver
Talent: C-
Organizational: C
Tuscon
Talent: C-
Organizational: C



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Another trade review, and another instance of me ripping some owner a new one. I'm just not making friends. In all reality though, this may have been a record year for trades, as there were well over 50 of them. With that many, there were bound to be some bad ones. Stay tuned for number 6, coming tomorrow probably. Who will I piss of next time?
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Re: Trade Review 2027 #5 - Mid to late June

Post by agrudez » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:59 am

Ted wrote: However, with a little insight it makes more sense. (I'm trying to remember here). First, scouts feel Perez is overachieving compared to his actual ability. Stever has long not liked to hear that.
I've been burned in the past in this league twice by international bumpers flaming out really early and both times it was portended by their POT stars going under their OVR stars. In this case, I'll either be right and Perez will be a 4th OFer by his 28th birthday or I'll be wrong and look like a fool... really no middle ground, imo.
Ted wrote: $20 says Kyle still pats himself on the back a bit every time he looks at his lineups.
Actually, it is REALLY annoying. v. RHP it's LH J-Rod starting and RH J-Rod backing up the infield and vice versa v. LHP. So not only do I have to click the starter to make sure its right, but also all 3 infield backup positions.
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Re: Trade Review 2027 #5 - Mid to late June

Post by recte44 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:18 am

The Cisco deal looks even worse for Montreal now that Gomez was left unprotected and went to Rome in the Rule 7 Draft.

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Re: Trade Review 2027 #5 - Mid to late June

Post by udlb58 » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:09 pm

recte44 wrote:The Cisco deal looks even worse for Montreal now that Gomez was left unprotected and went to Rome in the Rule 7 Draft.
That deal revolves around McHone. If he develops, it's a good deal; if he doesn't, Halifax gave up one of the top RH hitters for a bench bat.
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Re: Trade Review 2027 #5 - Mid to late June

Post by 7teen » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:34 pm

McHall wasn't having a lot of success in Madison. I was still in debt and needed whatever cash I could get.

I'm in the need for some starting pitching depth now but is a guy with an ERA above 6 really helpful? Even before, his ERA was in the upper 4s. The fact that you graded the move with a bunch of Cs both ways shows that is was pretty much a wash of a move either way.
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Re: Trade Review 2027 #5 - Mid to late June

Post by Ted » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:39 pm

7teen wrote:McHall wasn't having a lot of success in Madison. I was still in debt and needed whatever cash I could get.

I'm in the need for some starting pitching depth now but is a guy with an ERA above 6 really helpful? Even before, his ERA was in the upper 4s. The fact that you graded the move with a bunch of Cs both ways shows that is was pretty much a wash of a move either way.
Yeah, I kinda had to come up with something to talk about. McHall was definitely a big nothingburger for you. Didn't mean to come across as so harsh.
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Post by ae37jr » Tue Aug 30, 2016 4:17 pm

Ted wrote: Stay tuned for number 6, coming tomorrow probably. Who will I piss of next time?
Unless I missed the Galt/Moran trade review. I think I got this locked up. :bag:
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Re: Trade Review 2027 #5 - Mid to late June

Post by Bisbo » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:28 pm

Really enjoying this series - its giving me a lot of background about the league, the players and trade values. I totally don't get the Cisco Guerrero trade.

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Re: Trade Review 2027 #5 - Mid to late June

Post by Ted » Thu Sep 01, 2016 6:20 am

Bisbo wrote:Really enjoying this series - its giving me a lot of background about the league, the players and trade values. I totally don't get the Cisco Guerrero trade.
Thanks. I both enjoy and hate writing it. The number of trades has nearly double in the last couple years, and every time I see one I groan a little. But I started doing this for the reason you enjoy it. Keeps me up to date on who's who in the league, and how people are being valued. The first couple seasons of it are admittedly really rough. I'm completely wrong a bunch. I think I'm getting closer to general opinion these days, but it's still amazing how many trades work out completely differently than expected (lumps, bumps, injuries, etc).
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