Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgates

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Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgates

Post by Ted » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:30 am

Do we need to schedule an intervention for the genius? The number of minor deals he has made recently is concerning. Oh well, at least they are easy to write up.

Des Moines/Louisville
Des Moines receives:
CF Maurizio Lucantoni

Louisville receives:
$100,000

[list][*]Lucantoni is a good enough defender at all three outfield positions that one can probably justify his being a 5th OF on a big league roster, but you just can't pay him 2 mil per year to do it. He can draw the occasional walk, but otherwise can't hit for shit. (He's signed through 2027)[/list]



[list][*] $100,000 could buy you 11.5 million ladybugs[/list]

Nice contract dump, Genius. Enjoy those ladybugs, or 45,000 of these bitching valve cap lights. When you take into account the 2 mil per year Des Moines has to spend on Lucantoni, I bet they'll regret not being able to buy 450,000 pairs of raver light gloves.


Grades
Louisville
Talent: N/A
Organizational: B+
Des Moines
Talent: D+
Organizational: C


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Hawaii/Birmingham
Hawaii receives:
C Benjamin O'Rorke

Birmingham receives:
OF Jesus Fernandez (prospect)

[list][*] O'Rorke is one hell of a whiz behind the plate, a least according to his ratings. Of course, none of us seem to know if this matter or not. He's a switch hitter, which is nice, but he really doesn't have good hitting tools to start with. Good backup catcher material. [/list]



[list][*] 19 year old Jesus Fernandez needs to bump to matter. Otherwise he's a five contact, 4 eye righty OF who may not have the tools to play CF defensively. He's lumped once already, but that was awhile ago. He's a decent lottery ticket type bat.[/list]

I'm not sure why Hawaii makes this move. O'Rorke really isn't that much better than either guy on their roster. Otherwise, fair simple trade.


Grades
Hawaii
Talent: C-
Organizational: B
Birmingham
Talent: C-
Organizational: B


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Tuscon/Louisville
Tuscon receives:
DH Thomas Hollis
RP Robert Hansen (prospect)

Louisville receives:
CF Jeffrey Land

[list][*] Hollis is a pretty solid DH option. He's slow footed and not a contact machine, but his power and eye should make up for that. He played well last year and looks like a .275/.350/.470 guy in a platoon, but has struggled in 2026.
[*] 24 year old lefty Robert Hansen looks like at the very least he has the makings of a solid LOOGY. With a bit of lucky development he might do alright versus righties at times. I'm not really sure why he hasn't gotten a shot in the Brewster yet.[/list]



[list][*] Jeffrey Land is a decent backup CF option. His contact rating isn't good enough for a righty, and he doesn't hit for power or walk. He'd be a bit more valuable if he manned the corner OF spots.[/list]

I think Tuscon comes out ahead here. Hollis isn't the best DH, but I feel the genius sold him short. And again, I'm not sure why Hansen hasn't been given a chance at least as a LOOGY. Both of these players have a chance to contribute on a big league club. I can't ever see a team being satisfied with playing Land for any stretch, although he is an okay backup option. Stu mentioned he doesn't see either Hansen or Hollis playing for the team in any meaningful way next year, but they are so cheap right now that I don't see an urgency to move them, especially for a backup OF.


Grades
Tuscon
Talent: C-
Organizational: A-
Louisville
Talent: D+
Organizational: C-


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Madison/Brooklyn
Madison receives:
P Julio Flores (prospect)

Brooklyn receives:
RF Fernando Ortiz

[list][*] 21 year old lefty Julio Flores is a bit of a project. He has electric stuff, but struggles to hit the broad side of a barn. It looks like his splits may allow him to be 10/7/5 against lefties, which could probably make him a LOOGY option, but that's probably the limit of his upside.[/list]



[list][*] Fernando Ortiz has always been a contact specialist, and as he has aged that ability and his speed and defense have suffered. At this point he is a platoon player at best, and possibly shouldn't be allowed to field at all.[/list]

I'm not certain about this deal for Brooklyn. They currently don't have a left fielder, and you may be able to hide Ortiz's glove there, but he's probably not that big of an upgrade. Then you wonder what you do with Martin Felix's bat, and why they acquired him when they already have a pretty decent DH. They may have other plans, but it's a bit murky now. On the other hand, it's not like they gave a up a ton. This move makes sense for Madison, who has plenty of younger, better outfielders.


Grades
Madison
Talent: C-
Organizational: A-
Brooklyn
Talent: C-
Organizational: C+



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Omaha/Calgary
Omaha receives:
RP Armando Morales
DH Peter Powell (minor leaguer)
OF Alfonso Guerra (prospect)


Calgary receives:
OF Billy Wise

[list][*] Armando Morales just lumped, but he's still got a decent FIP and probably remains a solid middle relief option. He's signed cheaply for next year as well.
[*] Peter Powell can play D and doesn't have a DH caliber bat. He's AAAA at best.
[*] Alfonso Guerra is a 19 year old who has the tools to be a good defender in CF. However he's righty and has lumped across the board. He'll need to turn it around to be anything other than an organizational depth guy. Right now, his ceiling is AA.[/list]



[list][*] Billy Wise is tearing the cover off the ball in a backup/DH vsR role this year. He's young and cheap, and a good enough defender to start in left for some teams. He has been up and down throughout his career, which isn't surprising for a righty without exceptional talents.[/list]

Omaha needs bullpen help. Rosales may not be the best option out there, but he's cheap. Wise is a bit a of a surplus player for the Barnstormers given the other players on their roster. Overall this isn't a great talent for talent match, but it makes sense more on a need basis. Good move for the Pioneers. Rebuilding team trades older talent for younger talent.


Grades
Omaha
Talent: C+
Organizational: B
Calgary
Talent: B-
Organizational: B+



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Greenville/Louisville
Greenville receives:
SP Harry Considine
SP Steve Riley (prospect)


Louisville receives:
SP Gord Downie (prospect)
3B Jeffrey Cunningham (prospect)

[list][*] Considine seems to have settled in as a strong #3, weak #2. He's probably a bit better than his WAR and FIP indicate. He signed and extension earlier this year for a reasonable 7.4 mil per, but the length could get a bit scary towards the 33 and 34 year old seasons.
[*] Steve Riley is a 20 year old lefty with potential for a killer change, and a boatload of other pitches. He currently looks like a back end of the rotation guy, but as a lefty may play a bit higher, especially if he can get a little experience bump, or another mph or two.[/list]



[list][*] Gord Downie is a 22 year old that is a bit behind from a development standpoint, but seems to have mid rotation potential as a control specialist, innings eater. His change should help him with the righties. Like Riley above, he has a ton of pitches and at the least could be an RP conversion someday if all else fails.
[*] 18 year old Jeffrey Cunnningham was the 6th overall pick in this last years draft. The righty third sacker has a cannon arm, but needs to work on his range to be an elite defender at his position. He boasts decent contact and power abilities, above average for third, but may be somewhat limited as a righty if his 7 contact is closer to 6 than 8.[/list]

Lousiville continues to makes moves looking to the future, and selling Considine isn't a bad idea. In return they get a couple nice young prospects, although one could argue that the prospect they gave up was more of a sure thing, if not as talented. For Greenville, the Considine addition does help their rotation. I suppose an opinion of it depends on whether you think they will squeak into the playoffs.


Grades
Louisville
Talent: B
Organizational: B+
Greenville
Talent: B
Organizational: C+


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Re: Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgate

Post by indiansfan » Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:59 am

(So should I make that other deal today or wait until he's in the middle of hell week)
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Re: Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgate

Post by udlb58 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:21 am

The Considine deal was more looking towards 2027-29 than this year. I doubt Cunningham or Downie make an impact before 2030 and I'm hoping Considine can be a good mid-rotation guy.

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Re: Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgate

Post by Chey » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:49 am

Stu was telling me he wouldn't do Considine for Greenwood straight up, and now he makes this move? Weird.
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Re: Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgate

Post by Ted » Sun Apr 24, 2016 2:03 pm

indiansfan wrote:(So should I make that other deal today or wait until he's in the middle of hell week)
Lol. Whenever man. I'm just whinning.
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Re: Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgate

Post by agrudez » Sun Apr 24, 2016 3:12 pm

Chey wrote:Stu was telling me he wouldn't do Considine for Greenwood straight up, and now he makes this move? Weird.
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Re: Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgate

Post by felipe » Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:41 pm

Chey wrote:Stu was telling me he wouldn't do Considine for Greenwood straight up, and now he makes this move? Weird.
Largely based on our discussions, and then with several other people, I decided I may be valuing considine too highly

Couple that with the gutting of my squad (which happened after our discussions), I had no real incentive to hang on to a guy like Considine

So...if I had talked to you this week, you likely would have gotten s deal like this too...

I should have held out for more, but I guess I scared everyone else off earlier

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Re: Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgate

Post by Chey » Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:03 pm

Ultimately, the state of supply and demand in the league right now is such that a 4.00ish ERA starting pitcher just isn't that valuable at all. It's got to come back into balance soon though, right?
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Re: Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgate

Post by nerfHerder » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:31 pm

I'll shed some light on my catching situation. My starter right now isn't much better than O'Rorke, but wants a $7M per year extension. We'll have a whole new set of catchers next season in Hawaii.
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Re: Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgate

Post by Ted » Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:38 pm

nerfHerder wrote:I'll shed some light on my catching situation. My starter right now isn't much better than O'Rorke, but wants a $7M per year extension. We'll have a whole new set of catchers next season in Hawaii.
This makes more sense now.
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Re: Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgate

Post by nerfHerder » Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:44 pm

Ted wrote:
nerfHerder wrote:I'll shed some light on my catching situation. My starter right now isn't much better than O'Rorke, but wants a $7M per year extension. We'll have a whole new set of catchers next season in Hawaii.
This makes more sense now.

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Re: Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgate

Post by 7teen » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:06 am

Obviously only a blip on the radar, but I'm somewhat happy with the move I made with Brooklyn. It released me of the 1.9 million for Ortiz so it frees up a little more money and got me a potential reliever if he can find a little bit more control. Ortiz needed to go and I jumped at the first (and only) offer I ever got for him.

I'll take it. But you hit it right, I had plenty of OF support and I got a possible prospect. Worst case scenario, I dumped some salary.
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Re: Trade Review 2026 #6 - Somebody Close the Damn Floodgate

Post by ae37jr » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:31 am

We've been playing a lot of infielders in left field(Starr, Medina, Amaya) and even forced Martín Félix to play the field. We also have a DH playing RF in Enrique Salazar. Defense is not our strong suit. It's part of the reason why we are a sub .500 team. In the long term, I plan on changing that. The Félix and Ortiz trades were mainly to bring in a couple of bats to exploit some niche areas with the hopes of sneaking in the playoffs and keeping our gate revenue strong. The three other teams in our division have a total of one left handed starter out of 15. So when I look at Ortiz I see a 7/9/5/6/7 bat 93% of the time. Our park is also very doubles friendly and we play 31 of our next 47 games are at home. Neither one of these guys are long term solutions.

While I agree Flores is intriguing, I just don't see him getting enough of a bump to be effective. IMO he needs to improve his control significantly, movement, and secondary pitch. It just seems like a lot to ask. It's possible he does... which is the reason this is a good trade for Madison.
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