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2063 - Ranking Farm Systems Beyond the Top 100: 2063 Opening Day Edition *** NEW & IMPROVED ***

Posted: Fri May 30, 2025 11:54 pm
by Bob Breum
There have been suggestions that I weight value by position. There have also been thoughts that pitchers have been underrepresented. To address these concerns, I have introduced a table of weights by position. In addition, some care was taken to avoid giving extra weight to players who are assigned a position for which they are not suited. For instance, if your "shortstop" has a projected position rating at shortstop of less than 5, I moved him to another position, probably 2B, for the purposes of this exercise.

POSWeight +/-
SS50%
CF38%
2B25%
SP25%
C20%
3B15%
RF0%
CL-15%
RP-15%
1B-25%
LF-25%
DH-35%
I welcome feedback regarding the weighting values. Crowdsourcing is good.

Here is the new ranking by total farm system value. It shows how many hitters and pitchers each organization has among the Top 100.

RankORGVALUEHittersPitchers
1NSH384.837
2BIK336.434
3CHI272.341
4MEX265.531
5VAL261.112
6YS9258.852
7CCJ234.731
8NO211.521
9ATC211.324
10AUS204.431
11DM195.202
12POR194.940
13PHX185.112
14LV183.522
15SFB182.931
16CLG169.812
17LOU168.424
18SAC166.412
19ROS147.111
20HAW137.810
21JAX129.001
22CHA124.012
23SA111.810
24MAD109.812
25MTL108.320
26TWC108.201
27CBH104.911
28BPK99.420
29CPF97.100
30BOI94.711
31VAN90.601
32LBC80.301

See my earlier posts on this topic for methodology:
http://montybrewster.net/forums/viewtop ... 23&t=51139
http://montybrewster.net/forums/viewtop ... 23&t=51124
http://montybrewster.net/forums/viewtop ... 23&t=54458

Re: 2063 - Ranking Farm Systems Beyond the Top 100: 2063 Opening Day Edition *** NEW & IMPROVED ***

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 1:11 am
by Dington
Interesting, however there certainly isn’t a 25% gap between LF and RF. Same for me.

Re: 2063 - Ranking Farm Systems Beyond the Top 100: 2063 Opening Day Edition *** NEW & IMPROVED ***

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 1:15 am
by DaveB
I like your rankings more than the game rankings

Re: 2063 - Ranking Farm Systems Beyond the Top 100: 2063 Opening Day Edition *** NEW & IMPROVED ***

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 1:59 am
by Bob Breum
Dington wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 1:11 am
Interesting, however there certainly isn’t a 25% gap between LF and RF. Same for me.
If you consider a Venn diagram of corner outfielders, the larger circle is the set of LFers. Almost wholly contained within that circle is a smaller circle that comprises the set of RFers. I suppose that there may be a very small subset of RFers who have low range and strong arms that permit them to be successful in right but not left.

I do not think that they are the same. But I can accept that I may have overrated RF. What would you suggest?

Re: 2063 - Ranking Farm Systems Beyond the Top 100: 2063 Opening Day Edition *** NEW & IMPROVED ***

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 4:51 am
by Dington
Bob Breum wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 1:59 am
Dington wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 1:11 am
Interesting, however there certainly isn’t a 25% gap between LF and RF. Same for me.
If you consider a Venn diagram of corner outfielders, the larger circle is the set of LFers. Almost wholly contained within that circle is a smaller circle that comprises the set of RFers. I suppose that there may be a very small subset of RFers who have low range and strong arms that permit them to be successful in right but not left.

I do not think that they are the same. But I can accept that I may have overrated RF. What would you suggest?
To each their own.

Re: 2063 - Ranking Farm Systems Beyond the Top 100: 2063 Opening Day Edition *** NEW & IMPROVED ***

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 9:18 am
by BaseClogger
A lot of effort was put into updating yer model based on feedback. That’s always greatly appreciated.

I would change yer position weighting to correspond to something closer to MLB’s positional WAR adjustments. Right now LF and RF are too far apart IMO. The game itself usually doesn’t have these positional defensive ratings more than a point apart. From the link, you could think of RF as -10 runs and LF as -15 runs as a tweak. That’s still closer than 0 and -25.

The compounding factor is that the game is already doing this with their OVR rating. Ideally you would calculate composite batting/fielding/running scores and calculate your own OVR ratings. It would give you a chance to weight Gap Power way higher than I would! But that’s a whole project unto itself :)

Re: 2063 - Ranking Farm Systems Beyond the Top 100: 2063 Opening Day Edition *** NEW & IMPROVED ***

Posted: Sat May 31, 2025 9:25 am
by BaseClogger
In the past you’ve included a table showing how many players different orgs have at ratings beyond the top 100. Would it be possible to share something like that again?

Re: 2063 - Ranking Farm Systems Beyond the Top 100: 2063 Opening Day Edition *** NEW & IMPROVED ***

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 6:46 pm
by CTBrewCrew
Bob Breum wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 1:59 am
Dington wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 1:11 am
Interesting, however there certainly isn’t a 25% gap between LF and RF. Same for me.
If you consider a Venn diagram of corner outfielders, the larger circle is the set of LFers. Almost wholly contained within that circle is a smaller circle that comprises the set of RFers. I suppose that there may be a very small subset of RFers who have low range and strong arms that permit them to be successful in right but not left.

I do not think that they are the same. But I can accept that I may have overrated RF. What would you suggest?
🧐 24% 😜

Re: 2063 - Ranking Farm Systems Beyond the Top 100: 2063 Opening Day Edition *** NEW & IMPROVED ***

Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2025 6:47 pm
by CTBrewCrew
Again this is a lot of work … bonus ppt coming for this also