2057 – Aging Out: Thirty-Seven

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2057 – Aging Out: Thirty-Seven

Post by RonCo » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:29 pm

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Here’s another edition of the little series I’m doing on older players in the BBA, again, focusing on when they are dropping off rather than what will happen to those they leave behind as they go. I’ve looked at players 38 and up so far, and in general I’d categorize the result as saying that basically from that age up we lose about half the players each year, about 40% can still possibly add value to a team in the right circumstance, and maybe 10% remain impact players.

Those numbers change at age 37, though.

All Total we had 23 players in the league at age 37 this year. That’s a few too many to go through one-by-one, but I’ll do a little grouping and see if that helps shed at least some light on the situation. First, though, here are the players in question:

POSNameTMAgeBOVRPOTCONGAPPOWEYEK'sSPESTERUNPAABAVGOBPSLGOPS+WAR
LFAaron HaneyRMO37R80808995781086725940.2950.3680.5371335.1
2BLineu AldoMTL37L80808118481110116105780.2850.3150.4881224
LFJeffrey SmithLOU37R80809108685767316650.3040.3610.5341354
RFStewart Illingworth-37L6565778676333683350.3220.3750.6271683.6
RFTom RudgeLV37R757588777911115314710.2890.3640.5051303.4
CRoelof KloosterMEX37R75757106671114654230.2840.3350.441112.5
3BBlaine TylerTWC37R656568875211112632350.260.3350.5021222.3
CJesús RodríguezNSH37L7575685662464063690.2220.2830.325662
LFFernando MorenoMEX37R6565996697995604970.2680.3450.411072
RFEdward LakeBOI37L5555687758625264580.2420.3330.4721152
LFFelipe VegaLBC37L7070888781116065290.270.3560.4911251.9
CFJyri KulmalaPHX37R50504546669115524970.2370.310.36801.4
SSDamek KorbelEDM37R70706864847102312200.2860.3160.4951.2
CBryan HarrisLV37R50504646521130260.5380.5670.8082620.9
CFMichel NoëlSA37R555568427911115104890.2760.2960.366780.8
RFAlexander Julyan-37R5050587664884894470.260.3140.4631000.7
SSEwan AllmanVAN37S5555673668531291160.2760.3280.336920.6
CFJosé LeyvaCLG37R5050676383222162040.2210.2640.333590.1
LFTodd RiceSAC37L505078438710111751670.2510.2740.34168-0.1
3BPankratz IsekenmeirRetired37R40407774747937350.2290.270.25743-0.2
SSMauro SotoTWC37R505056131031052001910.2090.230.25136-0.3
CBayou HakkiDM37R50505956712126250.040.0770.04-67-0.5
SSLuis PeñaTWC37R65655647791062652500.1960.2310.2633-0.7


See what I mean? It’s a big chunk of players. And unlike the elders we’ve looked at, a quick eyeball says that only about 20% of them are obviously through. Or are they?

Yes, Pankratz Isekenmeir retired, so that one is a done-deal. But guys like Twin Cities’ Auro Soto and Luis Pena (with their combo of age and negative WAR), who would probably be finished in a real baseball environment, could well hang around in this comic book world of our simply because they can still play the field…which seems weird. Apparently defensive ratings don’t age quite as we might think they would. I’ll have to look at that some time. Regardless, Soto has years on his contact left, so that could save him to a degree, too.

Des Moines’ catcher Bayou Hakki is done on paper, too, having posted negative WAR each time he’s been to the Bigs the past five seasons. But the ratings bars are attractive enough to perhaps coax someone out of playing an equally crappy young guy.

We’ll see.

Regardless, moving into the lower middle of the list you see lots of guys who you can look at and say “well, I really don’t want this guy on the team if I can avoid it, but I could hold my nose and have him around awhile if I had to.” San Antonio’s Michel Noel is such an intrigue, right? The guy hasn’t ever really hit, and he’s worse now. Bit a gently + glove in center field could keep him employed for a bit. Vegas Catcher Brian Harris hasn’t been able to hit even AAA pitching for some years, but that 9/8 defense makes him workable for teams that really aren’t ready to compete—especially if they don’t have younger players who can use the reps.

Then you’ve got guys like Ewan Allman and Todd Rice, who can still put up strongish numbers, especially if a team can keep them playing in their platoon roles.

Edging upward a little we can find perhaps the most interesting player on the list: Jyri Kulmala, who has just turned 38, but after a 16 year career in the Phoenix organization, celebrated his THIRD season in the BBA by posting his career best 1.4 WAR. If he can OPS+ at 80 his defense could keep him viable as a platoon CF/defensive replacement on good teams for some time.

Freaky, right?

Bottom line: while I think a lot of these guys are better served in the broadcast booth at this stage, the bottom half of this list is filled with a few interesting guys, and a lot of C/SS/CF who I could see serving roles again in 2057. Time will tell.

And then there’s the upper half of the list, headlined, of course, by the one and only Aaron Haney, who recently got his $60 million walking papers from the Rocky Mountain crew. From Haney down to Felipe Vega, you’ve got eleven players who I expect will be rolling into 2057 under pretty strong expectations. If history repeats, it would appear that around half will have degraded by the end of the year, but this is a “Show Me” league, in the end. Those eleven players created 32 WAR last year. I’d put the over/under at, say, 24 this year?

Assuming, that is, they don’t price themselves out of the game.

Which is a form of retirement, right? An old guy who decides he’s worth more than the market will bear is simply retiring without admitting it. So I suppose that’s a question, too. Stewart Illingsworth, for example, signed an $8 million contract with Mexico City last year, but waited until March to do it. Todd Rice wasn’t signed until late in the season when he would take a minor league deal (which is a weird thing that OOTP does).

So, how much will these players actually impact the game next year?

I don’t know, really. Individual players are moderately easy to point to. I mean, anyone can say Aaron Haney can still play. But as a whole, there are a lot of moving parts still … um .. moving.
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Re: 2057 – Aging Out: Thirty-Seven

Post by Lane » Mon Nov 06, 2023 12:39 pm

I was surprised that Vega opted out of his final year. Even with no setbacks he's going to miss most or all of spring training. Hard to see him getting paid more than he opted out of.
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Re: 2057 – Aging Out: Thirty-Seven

Post by Rubaboo » Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:19 pm

Super sad Illingworth got hurt last season. He's been a great mercenary for a handful of seasons. Always on a reasonable deal for his production as well. Hope he has a couple of seasons left.
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Re: 2057 – Aging Out: Thirty-Seven

Post by BaseClogger » Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:46 pm

This is where the "problem" begins. As you pointed out, way too may guys who play in the middle of the diamond or even great defense in a corner.
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Re: 2057 – Aging Out: Thirty-Seven

Post by ae37jr » Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:36 pm

I botched Soto's contract. Thought he was in his walk year, but he had two options. So what I thought was a one year extension turned into 3. Luckily it's just chump change so he'll just get cut whenever he lumps range.
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Re: 2057 – Aging Out: Thirty-Seven

Post by Trebro » Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:33 pm

Given how 2056 went for many teams re injuries, I think less of these guys will get 26th man contracts. we'll see but that's my gut check thought.
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Re: 2057 – Aging Out: Thirty-Seven

Post by CTBrewCrew » Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:42 pm

Soto still hanging around….time for the GBC baby!
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Re: 2057 – Aging Out: Thirty-Seven

Post by Bob Breum » Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:11 pm

Lineu Aldo's defense just went down to 6 from 8 at second base, so we moved him to first base. He's not your classic slugging first baseman, but he's still got the wheels that led the league in SB last season (36 SB in 39 attempts) and his hitting ratings are largely unchanged. His power dipped by a point, but that's not a major factor in our giant home park. Last season he produced 3.8 WAR, and we'll be happy if he continues to produce at a 3+ WAR rate until his retirement.
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