A Different Slant on Catcher Ability

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A Different Slant on Catcher Ability

Post by RonCo » Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:52 am

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When it comes to catchers these days, we all think about framing. That’s where the hype is, right? Cachers fooling umpires? Adding in a few extra strikes to help out their pitchers? Of course, there’s more to the catching position. Blocking pitches, right? Throwing runners out. Maybe even catcher interference.

I got thinking about that last bit this morning, and pulled out some information on CI. Then for extra measure I added in Passed Balls. How, I wondered, has the catcher ability rating seemed to influence these things? Any at all? Would I be able to tell? The data will be noisy at this stage, I’d think. But what the hell, let’s see what we get.

So first I sorted out the catcher interference events that have happened so far, noting each catcher’s defensive ratings.

There have been eight:

CatcherTEAMABARM
R. KloosterMEX86
H. YiYS967
J. PochinEDM66
P. PortilloCLG67
H. ParkOMA76
R. ElìasCHI89
C. HughesATC57
G. VelázquezMEX73

That’s interesting in itself, right? A quick scan shows no 9, 10, or 11 ability ratings. Is that relevant? Also, at present, no catcher has had more than one such event. It is, of course, still moderately early in the season. I suppose I should look again at the end of the year.

But for now, let’s press on.

In order to get some context, I wanted to look at the opportunity field. Raw counts are interesting, but I’m looking for something more substantial, so I grabbed my latest fielding stats/ratings view from today’s game file, and then tabulated Innings Played, and PB by ratings.

(Aside: It’s annoying that OOTP doesn’t give Catcher Interference in the options for adding a data field. I suppose I should request that, but for now I’ll just complain.)

Anyway…once I had the data tabulated, I then calculated a PB and CI rate per 1000 innings played. Here it is:

ABILITYIPPBCIPB/1000 IPCI/1000 IP
51892.71115.810.528
62742.71334.741.094
75467.72624.760.366
858922724.580.339
92010.794.480.000
103908.2123.070.000
111800.000.000
TOTAL219329884.470.365

Fascinating, right? I mean, yes, I’d be willing to bet the data is still unsettled, so that makes the results themselves unstable. For example, I figure it’s unlikely that a “6” Ability Catcher has more CI than a “5” Ability Catcher, but the indicators suggest that Catcher Ability does appear to influence both PB and CI events.

If you take this data to the bank, which you should not, it suggests a “10” Ability Catcher is half as likely to give a PB as a “5” Ability catcher. It also suggests that “9” and above Catcher Ability will result in very few if any Catcher Interference events, whereas lower ratings will put a guy on base every now and again.

I also found it interesting to see the IP of catchers of each rating.

I’m not sure why I find that interesting, beyond that fact that I do. I suppose it gives us GMs a bit of insight to the competitive field. After all, everything is relative. If the average BBA catcher’s Ability Rating is 6, we can get away with playing uglier defensive players than if the average BBA catcher’s Ability Rating is 7.69, which is what it is on a per inning played basis.

So I think the bottom line is that – while the sample size could be made better -- this little study with live data in a live league suggests that Catcher Ability influences PB (which is not surprising at all), as well as CI (which isn’t surprising, but which I don’t think I’d ever really looked at before). Is the balance/influence “right?” I have no idea. But if this is true, I like the basic concept.

So, kudos, I think, to the Dev team.
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Re: A Different Slant on Catcher Ability

Post by Lane » Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:08 pm

very interesting
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Re: A Different Slant on Catcher Ability

Post by Dington » Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:28 pm

I find it odd that the top two catching prospects are elite catchers on paper, but their FRM history in the minors has been terrible. Speaking of Atticus and Uecker.
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Re: A Different Slant on Catcher Ability

Post by RonCo » Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:44 pm

Yeah. No idea how OOTP is doing framing calculations. But that's interesting. I have been able to see differences in strikes/balls and K/BB that seem to be attributed to Ability. But the data in those studies isn't super-strong. I should do some more looking. :)
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Re: A Different Slant on Catcher Ability

Post by Lane » Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:07 pm

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I find it odd that the top two catching prospects are elite catchers on paper, but their FRM history in the minors has been terrible. Speaking of Atticus and Uecker.
fwiw Atticus is at like +1.2 FRM runs in 18 BBA innings. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: A Different Slant on Catcher Ability

Post by Dington » Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:18 pm

Lane wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:07 pm
Dington wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:28 pm
I find it odd that the top two catching prospects are elite catchers on paper, but their FRM history in the minors has been terrible. Speaking of Atticus and Uecker.
fwiw Atticus is at like +1.2 FRM runs in 18 BBA innings. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe those minor league pitchers are so bad they're too far away from the strike zone to frame lol.
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Re: A Different Slant on Catcher Ability

Post by CTBrewCrew » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:46 pm

Ala steven A smith tossing out first P at yankees gane the other night.
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Re: A Different Slant on Catcher Ability

Post by Lane » Fri Sep 22, 2023 10:51 pm

Dington wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:18 pm
Lane wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:07 pm
Dington wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2023 12:28 pm
I find it odd that the top two catching prospects are elite catchers on paper, but their FRM history in the minors has been terrible. Speaking of Atticus and Uecker.
fwiw Atticus is at like +1.2 FRM runs in 18 BBA innings. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe those minor league pitchers are so bad they're too far away from the strike zone to frame lol.
That's actually a really good theory? Haha
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