Best Debut Classes (Pitchers) Post 2047
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Best Debut Classes (Pitchers) Post 2047
This is a companion to the position players version of this list that i have done here. Some notes as a refresher below.
-WAR and WAR alone is used for this. While you can argue about how accurate WAR is, it provides a consistent and uniform measure for comparison
-There is no subjectivity in this list, the rankings are purely objective based on the simple formula that I came up with (explained below)
-Each class is broken down into 6x categories, each of which covers a 10 WAR span minus the top one (20 WAR, 30 WAR, 40 WAR, 50 WAR, 60 WAR, 70+ WAR). 20 WAR was used because that is a reasonable cutoff for a solid career, and 70 was the high end because once you get to that point you are a very likely Hall of Famer and going much higher would distort the numbers too much.
-Formula: 20 WAR= 1 Point, 30 WAR= 2 points, 40 WAR=3 points, 50 WAR=4 points, 60 WAR=5 points, 70+ WAR=6 points. Each player only counts for their final total (i.e if you get 45 WAR, you only get 3 points, you don't get the points for passing 20 and 30 WAR).
-Ties were broken by the year with the most total 20+ WAR players, followed by the highest category of WAR total (NOT the individual point total within that category)
-Every player with 20+ WAR or the top 10 (whichever is more) is listed for each class
-I included every class from 1973-2047, even though the newer classes still have people piling up totals so this list will change
-All data is through the end of the 2047 season.
I will list all players over 20 WAR or the top 10 (in the case of those without 10 players over 20).
A notes on the WAR used here. For the hitters I used HTML data due to some discrepancies discovered with stats+ data. For the pitchers unfortunately they do not list WAR for each pitchers and I am not going through 4545 individual player pages to get the WAR for them, so we are going to use stats+ for this.
-WAR and WAR alone is used for this. While you can argue about how accurate WAR is, it provides a consistent and uniform measure for comparison
-There is no subjectivity in this list, the rankings are purely objective based on the simple formula that I came up with (explained below)
-Each class is broken down into 6x categories, each of which covers a 10 WAR span minus the top one (20 WAR, 30 WAR, 40 WAR, 50 WAR, 60 WAR, 70+ WAR). 20 WAR was used because that is a reasonable cutoff for a solid career, and 70 was the high end because once you get to that point you are a very likely Hall of Famer and going much higher would distort the numbers too much.
-Formula: 20 WAR= 1 Point, 30 WAR= 2 points, 40 WAR=3 points, 50 WAR=4 points, 60 WAR=5 points, 70+ WAR=6 points. Each player only counts for their final total (i.e if you get 45 WAR, you only get 3 points, you don't get the points for passing 20 and 30 WAR).
-Ties were broken by the year with the most total 20+ WAR players, followed by the highest category of WAR total (NOT the individual point total within that category)
-Every player with 20+ WAR or the top 10 (whichever is more) is listed for each class
-I included every class from 1973-2047, even though the newer classes still have people piling up totals so this list will change
-All data is through the end of the 2047 season.
I will list all players over 20 WAR or the top 10 (in the case of those without 10 players over 20).
A notes on the WAR used here. For the hitters I used HTML data due to some discrepancies discovered with stats+ data. For the pitchers unfortunately they do not list WAR for each pitchers and I am not going through 4545 individual player pages to get the WAR for them, so we are going to use stats+ for this.
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Best Debut Classes (Pitchers) Post 2047
T72) 0 Points: 2047
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Ken Sparks | 2047 | 2047 | 5.29 | NO |
SP | Loan Duval | 2047 | 2047 | 4.79 | NO |
SP | Ken Arroyo | 2047 | 2047 | 4.49 | NO |
RP | Todd Stone | 2047 | 2047 | 4 | NO |
SP | Chris Thompson | 2047 | 2047 | 3.12 | NO |
RP | Damian Taylor | 2047 | 2047 | 2.44 | NO |
SP | Adrian Custello | 2047 | 2047 | 2.43 | NO |
RP | Dan Small | 2047 | 2047 | 2.28 | NO |
SP | Roy Minty | 2047 | 2047 | 2.14 | NO |
SP | Eric Whitehead | 2047 | 2047 | 1.7 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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T72) 0 Points: 2046
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Dave Corfield | 2046 | 2047 | 10.16 | NO |
SP | Kyle Smallwood | 2046 | 2047 | 8.05 | NO |
SP | Phil Cole | 2046 | 2047 | 7.55 | NO |
SP | Steve Warren | 2046 | 2047 | 6.29 | NO |
SP | Peter Dean | 2046 | 2047 | 5.9 | NO |
RP | Jay Hodge | 2046 | 2047 | 4.19 | NO |
SP | Thomas Turner | 2046 | 2047 | 4.01 | NO |
SP | Seth Harris | 2046 | 2047 | 3.82 | NO |
RP | Juan Martinez | 2046 | 2047 | 3.69 | NO |
RP | Pat Waites | 2046 | 2047 | 3.59 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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T72) 0 Points: 2045
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Bernie Stuart | 2045 | 2047 | 12.2 | NO |
RP | Derrick Chaney | 2045 | 2047 | 11.04 | NO |
SP | Barney Lindsay | 2045 | 2047 | 9.02 | NO |
SP | Nathaniel Davis | 2045 | 2047 | 6.7 | NO |
SP | Juan Marroquin | 2045 | 2047 | 6.68 | NO |
SP | Matt McCartney | 2045 | 2047 | 6.3 | NO |
SP | Warren Moore | 2045 | 2047 | 6.12 | NO |
SP | Scott Davis | 2045 | 2047 | 5.9 | NO |
SP | Edward Crutcher | 2045 | 2047 | 5.56 | NO |
SP | Hector Fuentes | 2045 | 2047 | 5.39 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Best Debut Classes (Pitchers) Post 2047
T72) 0 Points: 2042
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Yasir bin Lutfi | 2042 | 2047 | 17.9 | NO |
SP | Ernesto Delgado | 2042 | 2047 | 16.31 | NO |
SP | Lance Harrison | 2042 | 2047 | 15.54 | NO |
SP | Niccolo Destefani | 2042 | 2047 | 15.4 | NO |
RP | Al Colbert | 2042 | 2047 | 15.38 | NO |
SP | Chris Moran | 2042 | 2047 | 13.76 | NO |
SP | David Bates | 2042 | 2046 | 13.69 | NO |
SP | Frank Boland | 2042 | 2047 | 13.15 | NO |
SP | Maup Manshert | 2042 | 2047 | 13.15 | NO |
SP | Gilberto Nevarez | 2042 | 2047 | 12.75 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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T70) 1 Point: 1986
1x Total: 1x 20 WAR
1x Total: 1x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Sam Morton | 1986 | 2000 | 21.77 | NO |
SP | Marcel Reyes | 1986 | 1992 | 15.44 | NO |
SP | Les Straker | 1986 | 1994 | 8.24 | NO |
RP | Dale Mohorcic | 1986 | 1992 | 4.55 | NO |
RP | Daniel Gassaway | 1986 | 1999 | 2.54 | NO |
RP | Adan Alva | 1986 | 1996 | 1.29 | NO |
SP | Mike Brain | 1986 | 1994 | 1.22 | NO |
RP | Rudy Sparrow | 1986 | 1990 | 1.05 | NO |
SP | Chuck Rainey | 1986 | 1989 | 1.04 | NO |
RP | Keith Dawson | 1986 | 1987 | 0.13 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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T70) 1 Point: 2044
1x Total: 1x 20 WAR
1x Total: 1x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Bill Constable | 2044 | 2047 | 23.1 | NO |
SP | Don Jaramillo | 2044 | 2047 | 16.21 | NO |
RP | Carlton Casson | 2044 | 2047 | 12.78 | NO |
SP | Gusby Pinkerton | 2044 | 2047 | 12.5 | NO |
SP | Amos Swallows | 2044 | 2047 | 11.02 | NO |
SP | Martin Ross | 2044 | 2047 | 7.38 | NO |
SP | Romeu Tameiro | 2044 | 2047 | 6.71 | NO |
RP | Dean Stranaghan | 2044 | 2047 | 6.55 | NO |
RP | Ramon Gonzalez | 2044 | 2047 | 5.49 | NO |
SP | Eugenio Asseldonk | 2044 | 2047 | 5.25 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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68) 3 Points: 2006
1x Total: 1x 40 WAR
1x Total: 1x 40 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Morgan Ackerman | 2006 | 2022 | 44.4 | NO |
RP | Jonathan Sorensen | 2006 | 2024 | 16.72 | NO |
SP | Doug Hayes | 2006 | 2016 | 13.95 | NO |
RP | Javier Alomar | 2006 | 2020 | 13.09 | NO |
SP | Jose Baca | 2006 | 2016 | 9.18 | NO |
RP | Julio Feliz | 2006 | 2014 | 8.82 | NO |
SP | Norm Young | 2006 | 2018 | 6.71 | NO |
RP | Antonio Andrade | 2006 | 2018 | 6.56 | NO |
RP | Luiz Sachse | 2006 | 2014 | 5.65 | NO |
RP | John Edwards | 2006 | 2020 | 5.3 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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T67) 4 Points: 1987
3x Total: 1x 30 WAR, 2x 20 WAR
3x Total: 1x 30 WAR, 2x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Emile Yost | 1987 | 2001 | 30.93 | NO |
SP | Hoyt Perea | 1987 | 1997 | 26.84 | NO |
SP | Avagadro Pompeii | 1987 | 1994 | 23.24 | NO |
RP | Michael Hottinger | 1987 | 1995 | 17.39 | NO |
SP | Albert Camarena | 1987 | 1996 | 16.52 | NO |
SP | Manny Hernandez | 1987 | 1994 | 14.19 | NO |
SP | Billy Pena | 1987 | 1994 | 13.97 | NO |
SP | Samuel Smith | 1987 | 1998 | 9.67 | NO |
SP | Al Alexander | 1987 | 1989 | 8.9 | NO |
RP | Nick Machiavelli | 1987 | 2005 | 4.59 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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T67) 4 Points: 2043
3x Total: 1x 30 WAR, 2x 20 WAR
3x Total: 1x 30 WAR, 2x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Ruben Vazquez | 2043 | 2047 | 30.42 | NO |
SP | Francisco Franco | 2043 | 2047 | 21.66 | NO |
SP | Carlos Flores | 2043 | 2047 | 20.64 | NO |
SP | Dave Lee | 2043 | 2047 | 19.11 | NO |
SP | Felipe Guevara | 2043 | 2047 | 12.42 | NO |
RP | Luis Manuel Rodriguez | 2043 | 2047 | 11.64 | NO |
RP | Ashton Brooks | 2043 | 2047 | 9.48 | NO |
SP | Eustace Tilley | 2043 | 2047 | 9.1 | NO |
RP | John Olson | 2043 | 2047 | 8 | NO |
RP | Martin Roman | 2043 | 2047 | 7.9 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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66) 5 Points: 2009
2x Total: 1x 50 WAR, 1x 20 WAR
2x Total: 1x 50 WAR, 1x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Antonio Rodriguez | 2009 | 2026 | 51.89 | NO |
SP | Sheng Yen | 2009 | 2024 | 23.02 | NO |
SP | Joe Miller | 2009 | 2020 | 18.96 | NO |
SP | Don Miller | 2009 | 2020 | 12.92 | NO |
RP | Jack Hanski, Jr. | 2009 | 2019 | 9.92 | NO |
RP | Charles Brannigan | 2009 | 2021 | 8.39 | NO |
SP | Mario Mendez | 2009 | 2015 | 6.98 | NO |
RP | Darryl Robinson | 2009 | 2020 | 6.26 | NO |
RP | Ben Schumaker | 2009 | 2019 | 5.99 | NO |
SP | Victor Paez | 2009 | 2011 | 4.8 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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65) 5 Points: 1980
3x Total: 2x 30 WAR, 1x 20 WAR
3x Total: 2x 30 WAR, 1x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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RP | Denny Wegman | 1980 | 1995 | 35.96 | NO |
SP | Lewis Bauder | 1980 | 1993 | 32.47 | NO |
RP | Jerry Neal | 1980 | 1993 | 27.31 | NO |
RP | David Clyde | 1980 | 1991 | 8.7 | NO |
RP | George Kemper | 1980 | 1990 | 7.45 | NO |
SP | Drew Triggs | 1980 | 1991 | 5.45 | NO |
RP | Nathan Lafayette | 1980 | 1991 | 3.19 | NO |
RP | Peter Sanborn | 1980 | 1993 | 3.09 | NO |
RP | Dennis Mcgahan | 1980 | 1986 | 2.71 | NO |
RP | Doug Corbett | 1980 | 1984 | 2.37 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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64) 6 Points: 2036
4x Total: 2x 30 WAR, 2x 20 WAR
4x Total: 2x 30 WAR, 2x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Stephen Taub | 2036 | 2047 | 34.11 | NO |
SP | Jose Martinez | 2036 | 2047 | 31.07 | NO |
SP | Luther Summers | 2036 | 2045 | 28.37 | NO |
SP | Luis Rojas | 2036 | 2047 | 22.92 | NO |
RP | Mitsuo Tenno | 2036 | 2047 | 19.81 | NO |
RP | Adergazoz Ouakili | 2036 | 2047 | 19.05 | NO |
SP | Luis Oliva | 2036 | 2045 | 17.4 | NO |
RP | Jorge Huerta | 2036 | 2047 | 16.21 | NO |
RP | Javier Garcia | 2036 | 2047 | 11.9 | NO |
RP | Jose Luna | 2036 | 2047 | 10.61 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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63) 6 Points: 2030
5x Total: 1x 30 WAR, 4x 20 WAR
5x Total: 1x 30 WAR, 4x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Freddy Delgado | 2030 | 2045 | 32.98 | NO |
RP | Julio Velasco | 2030 | 2045 | 26.08 | NO |
SP | Maxence Mace | 2030 | 2042 | 25.21 | NO |
SP | Abe Colbert, Jr. | 2030 | 2043 | 25 | NO |
SP | Andre Georges | 2030 | 2041 | 21.14 | NO |
SP | Matt Mills | 2030 | 2038 | 18.52 | NO |
RP | Timofei Bakitski | 2030 | 2041 | 15.63 | NO |
RP | Jose Souza | 2030 | 2042 | 12.62 | NO |
SP | Arturo Reyes | 2030 | 2038 | 12.17 | NO |
SP | Rogerio Vazquez | 2030 | 2042 | 11.98 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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T61) 7 Points: 2024
3x Total: 1x 50 WAR, 1x 30 WAR, 4x 20 WAR
3x Total: 1x 50 WAR, 1x 30 WAR, 4x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Jose Chavez | 2024 | 2038 | 54.53 | NO |
SP | Tavio Ciccolella | 2024 | 2039 | 38.44 | NO |
SP | Gerardo Castillo | 2024 | 2035 | 20.38 | NO |
SP | Raul Sanchez | 2024 | 2037 | 13.42 | NO |
SP | Mike Davis | 2024 | 2034 | 12.85 | NO |
RP | Rafael Mata | 2024 | 2035 | 12.46 | NO |
SP | Yan Heijnen | 2024 | 2032 | 11.98 | NO |
RP | Bonaventure Habermas | 2024 | 2036 | 10.4 | NO |
RP | Juan Martinez | 2024 | 2039 | 9.37 | NO |
RP | Chris Adkins | 2024 | 2040 | 8.92 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Best Debut Classes (Pitchers) Post 2047
T61) 7 Points: 2038
3x Total: 1x 50 WAR, 1x 30 WAR, 4x 20 WAR
3x Total: 1x 50 WAR, 1x 30 WAR, 4x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Danya Tchekanov | 2038 | 2047 | 52.08 | NO |
SP | Zak Johnson | 2038 | 2047 | 31.73 | NO |
SP | Jim Armstrong | 2038 | 2047 | 29.18 | NO |
RP | Tony Alomar | 2038 | 2046 | 16.89 | NO |
SP | Charlie Iron-Knife | 2038 | 2043 | 14.73 | NO |
RP | Luis Gonzales | 2038 | 2047 | 13.41 | NO |
SP | Dan Forsyth | 2038 | 2047 | 10.58 | NO |
RP | Luis Pina | 2038 | 2047 | 10.16 | NO |
SP | Jose Ramirez | 2038 | 2043 | 7.98 | NO |
RP | Dave Walsh | 2038 | 2045 | 7.19 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Best Debut Classes (Pitchers) Post 2047
60) 7 Points: 2004
3x Total: 1x 60 WAR, 2x 20 WAR
3x Total: 1x 60 WAR, 2x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Jim Schmidt | 2004 | 2016 | 64.37 | NO |
SP | Will Craig | 2004 | 2018 | 23.76 | NO |
SP | Johnny Carter | 2004 | 2013 | 22.97 | NO |
SP | Jared Dorsey | 2004 | 2019 | 19.69 | NO |
SP | Maynard Gnass | 2004 | 2012 | 14.91 | NO |
RP | Marc Jutras | 2004 | 2019 | 13.03 | NO |
SP | Will Cameron | 2004 | 2012 | 6.9 | NO |
RP | Pat Hughes | 2004 | 2013 | 5.56 | NO |
SP | Carlos Morales | 2004 | 2014 | 4.37 | NO |
RP | Shawn Curtis | 2004 | 2014 | 4.24 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Best Debut Classes (Pitchers) Post 2047
59) 7 Points: 2003
4x Total: 3x 30 WAR, 1x 20 WAR
4x Total: 3x 30 WAR, 1x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Jerome Powell | 2003 | 2019 | 37.66 | NO |
SP | Mark Wheeler | 2003 | 2015 | 34.93 | NO |
SP | Maxwell Johnson | 2003 | 2017 | 33.42 | NO |
RP | Stanley Price | 2003 | 2017 | 20.46 | NO |
SP | Dave Corrigan | 2003 | 2018 | 16.14 | NO |
SP | Dan Winter | 2003 | 2011 | 12.64 | NO |
SP | Luis Luna | 2003 | 2015 | 12.15 | NO |
SP | Francisco Lueras | 2003 | 2010 | 12.03 | NO |
RP | Brandon Caldwell | 2003 | 2014 | 7.7 | NO |
RP | Mario Diaz | 2003 | 2018 | 7.16 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Best Debut Classes (Pitchers) Post 2047
58) 7 Points: 2027
6x Total: 1x 30 WAR, 5x 20 WAR
6x Total: 1x 30 WAR, 5x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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SP | Jose Morales | 2027 | 2041 | 30.01 | NO |
SP | Felipe Baez | 2027 | 2039 | 26.55 | NO |
SP | Leon Flores | 2027 | 2036 | 25.92 | NO |
RP | Hiroyuki Rin | 2027 | 2041 | 25.58 | NO |
SP | Sam Romero | 2027 | 2038 | 24.96 | NO |
SP | Esteban Gil | 2027 | 2036 | 20.93 | NO |
RP | Miguel Macias | 2027 | 2039 | 15.94 | NO |
SP | Alex Lopez | 2027 | 2035 | 15.35 | NO |
SP | Nicholas Sutton | 2027 | 2036 | 12.47 | NO |
SP | Jose Lozano | 2027 | 2033 | 11.79 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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Re: Best Debut Classes (Pitchers) Post 2047
57) 7 Points: 2040
7x Total: 7x 20 WAR
7x Total: 7x 20 WAR
POSITION | Name | FROM | TO | WAR | HOF |
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RP | Tiernan O'Macken | 2040 | 2047 | 28.95 | NO |
SP | Yorikane Miyamoto | 2040 | 2047 | 27.4 | NO |
SP | Armando Feliciano | 2040 | 2047 | 25.89 | NO |
RP | Cornelio Lozano | 2040 | 2047 | 23 | NO |
SP | Carlos Pineda | 2040 | 2046 | 22.88 | NO |
SP | Jorge Moreno | 2040 | 2047 | 20.83 | NO |
SP | Stan Palacios | 2040 | 2047 | 20.07 | NO |
RP | Mitchell Purssell | 2040 | 2047 | 17.25 | NO |
SP | Chandler Hall | 2040 | 2047 | 16.23 | NO |
SP | Jesus Gonzalez | 2040 | 2047 | 13.81 | NO |
Randy Weigand
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-
League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43
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