Best BBA Debut Classes (Hitters Only) Post 2047

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Best BBA Debut Classes (Hitters Only) Post 2047

Post by usnspecialist » Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:58 am

So i did this a few seasons ago here but i figured it was time for an update since I am now more fluent with markdown tables and also have more data. A refresher on the criteria for this below.

-WAR and WAR alone is used for this. While you can argue about how accurate WAR is, it provides a consistent and uniform measure for comparison
-There is no subjectivity in this list, the rankings are purely objective based on the simple formula that I came up with (explained below)
-Each class is broken down into 6x categories, each of which covers a 10 WAR span minus the top one (20 WAR, 30 WAR, 40 WAR, 50 WAR, 60 WAR, 70+ WAR). 20 WAR was used because that is a reasonable cutoff for a solid career, and 70 was the high end because once you get to that point you are a very likely Hall of Famer and going much higher would distort the numbers too much.
-Formula: 20 WAR= 1 Point, 30 WAR= 2 points, 40 WAR=3 points, 50 WAR=4 points, 60 WAR=5 points, 70+ WAR=6 points. Each player only counts for their final total (i.e if you get 45 WAR, you only get 3 points, you don't get the points for passing 20 and 30 WAR).
-Ties were broken by the year with the most total 20+ WAR players, followed by the highest category of WAR total (NOT the individual point total within that category)
-Every player with 20+ WAR or the top 10 (whichever is more) is listed for each class
-I included every class from 1973-2047, even though the newer classes still have people piling up totals so this list will change

One key change is that I now have pitching WAR data as well, so subsequent threads will include that and also a combined list. All data presented in those 3 threads will be current as of 2048 opening day.

EDIT: I will list all players over 20 WAR or the top 10 (in the case of those without 10 players over 20).

DOUBLE EDIT: Due to some issues with Stats+ WAR, i am using the HTML numbers for that, which only go to 1 decimal point. To break ties within the same WAR i will be using WRC
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Re: Best BBA Debut Classes (Hitters Only) Post 2047

Post by usnspecialist » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:15 am

T71) 0 Points: 2047
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
2BPete Brace204720472.9NO
RFMartin Hemming204720472.8NO
CFLuis Manuel Alonzo204720472.8NO
CFJosh Mesh204720472.4NO
DHMike O'Hanly204720471.6NO
1BWilbur Lewis204720471.6NO
1BToby Hanscombe204720471.5NO
2BJavier Garci­a204720471.4NO
LFMike Fowler204720471.3NO
RFRalph Callahan204720471.1NO
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Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Re: Best BBA Debut Classes (Hitters Only) Post 2047

Post by usnspecialist » Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:16 am

T71) 0 Points: 2046
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
CIchizo Sugiyama204620479.6NO
1BPedro Martinez204620473.5NO
1BBrody Bond204620473.4NO
CFJeffrey Tate204620473.0NO
1BAbu Wamukota204620472.7NO
2BCoy Skinner204620472.0NO
RFEduardo Gonzalez204620471.7NO
3BDerek Cumming204620471.7NO
LFMartin Herrera204620471.7NO
CManuel Moreno204620471.5NO
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Post by Dington » Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:09 am

I’ll like this series. Is this going to be based off a player’s rookie season or actual debut? (I.e. September call up)
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Re: Best BBA Debut Classes (Hitters Only) Post 2047

Post by usnspecialist » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:11 am

Dington wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:09 am
I’ll like this series. Is this going to be based off a player’s rookie season or actual debut? (I.e. September call up)
The first season they posted a stat, so in 99.9% of cases it will be the latter.
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Post by Dington » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:25 am

usnspecialist wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:11 am
Dington wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:09 am
I’ll like this series. Is this going to be based off a player’s rookie season or actual debut? (I.e. September call up)
The first season they posted a stat, so in 99.9% of cases it will be the latter.
Might be a problem in your script then. Didn't see Martin Hemming and his 2.8 WAR in there for 2047.
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Re: Best BBA Debut Classes (Hitters Only) Post 2047

Post by usnspecialist » Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:48 am

Dington wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:25 am
usnspecialist wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:11 am
Dington wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:09 am
I’ll like this series. Is this going to be based off a player’s rookie season or actual debut? (I.e. September call up)
The first season they posted a stat, so in 99.9% of cases it will be the latter.
Might be a problem in your script then. Didn't see Martin Hemming and his 2.8 WAR in there for 2047.
Hmm I will go back and check after the holiday weekend, but that is a good catch
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Des Moines Kernels: 52-

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JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Re: Best BBA Debut Classes (Hitters Only) Post 2047

Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:28 am

Dington wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:25 am
usnspecialist wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:11 am
Dington wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:09 am
I’ll like this series. Is this going to be based off a player’s rookie season or actual debut? (I.e. September call up)
The first season they posted a stat, so in 99.9% of cases it will be the latter.
Might be a problem in your script then. Didn't see Martin Hemming and his 2.8 WAR in there for 2047.
figured this out, somehow the data for hemming was off (had him at -3 WAR), checking now to see if it was just him or (more likely) a bigger issue.
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Re: Best BBA Debut Classes (Hitters Only) Post 2047

Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 7:14 am

T71) 0 Points: 2045
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
3BRoberto Rivera204520475.6NO
1BFrancisco Martinez204520474.9NO
1BOdemar Lock204520474.0NO
3BMike Galloway204520473.0NO
LFHadji Ufanisi204520473.0NO
LFRaul Herrera204520472.5NO
1BCarlos Santillan204520472.3NO
3BRamiro Cordero204520461.6NO
SSLarry Barkin204520471.4NO
CFJuan Hernandez204520470.9NO
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Des Moines Kernels: 52-

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JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:17 am

T71) 0 Points: 2043
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
1BWilson Estrada2043204717.5NO
1BChris Mann2043204715.7NO
3BAlfonso Trinidad2043204714.3NO
CFArvin Duggan2043204710.6NO
SSHenri Charriere2043204710.6NO
1BRobert Chenoweth204320479.2NO
SSAlejandro Cordova204320478.7NO
2BStewart Turton204320477.8NO
CJared Bolen204320477.8NO
CFChuck Dickens204320477.1NO
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:18 am

T71) 0 Points: 1974
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
SSLance Thelen1974198015.2NO
CAron Mayorga1974198814.7NO
CJames Young1974198611.2NO
3BColby Vicknair197419869.5NO
CDavid Richardson197419806.7NO
SSMichael Cruz197419836.5NO
LFBryon Davis197419856.0NO
1BBradley Malbrough197419835.8NO
RFJerry Martin197419825.1NO
LFThomas Ready197419793.8NO
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:22 am

70) 1 Point: 2044

1x Total, 1x 20 WAR
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
3BLuis Mendoza2044204720.5NO
3BMal Fountain2044204712.9NO
1BTim Battle2044204711.8NO
CFFrederick Brisset204420479.8NO
RFJose Romero204420479.3NO
1BCinema Jones204420478.9NO
LFPedro Mendoza204420477.2NO
1BColin Lee204420476.6NO
CPhilitis Tsafento204420475.6NO
RFSazui Kawashima204420474.3NO
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:25 am

69) 4 Points: 2004

4x Total, 4x 20 WAR
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
RFRichard Wilcox2004201327.8NO
3BDuncan Harvey2004201626.9NO
3BShawn McClure2004201722.5NO
1BStephen Lubin2004201221.1NO
RFIgnacio Ramos2004201817.5NO
SSPaco Torres2004201617.0NO
3BAlbert Lawson2004201615.4NO
RFYi-lin She2004201514.7NO
3BBill Carver2004201612.3NO
CFShannon Osborne2004201312.3NO
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:27 am

68) 6 Points: 2033

4x Total, 1x 40 WAR, 4x 20 WAR
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
CFrancisco Flores2033204747.5NO
RFLionnel Crepin2033204527.3NO
1BYancy Cravat2033204226.3NO
1BManuel Marino2033204720.9NO
CFWillard Gagne2033204218.9NO
1BAdrian Salazar2033204718.7NO
1BMike Ellis2033204014.1NO
2BLuzvimindo Arbizo2033204113.1NO
CPaco Diaz2033204412.6NO
RFGerbrand de Best2033204210.7NO
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
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Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:30 am

67) 7 Points: 2009

4x Total, 3x 30 WAR, 1x 20 WAR
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
1BBob Ritchie2009202339.0NO
2BEric Thorne2009202137.7NO
RFBob White2009202335.6NO
CFJose Cruz2009202024.9NO
RFTodd Clay2009202316.7NO
LFHarvey Newton2009202115.2NO
1BRichard Rollins2009201812.1NO
3BLee Dundee2009201811.4NO
SSJuan Lopez2009201710.4NO
LFAlfred Brouthers200920199.7NO
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:32 am

T65) 7 Points: 2035

4x Total, 1x 40 WAR, 1x 30 WAR, 2x 20 WAR
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
3BQuant Kouros2035204742.7NO
3BJuan Mendoza2035204732.3NO
LFLuis Costello2035204722.5NO
LFVirgil Shafer2035204221.1NO
2BKeith Dean2035204619.5NO
CSang-duk Sim2035204519.0NO
2BJharod Thealer2035204517.4NO
1BMiguel Suarez2035204316.1NO
CEric Fabre2035204516.1NO
2BJerome Delage2035204715.8NO
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:34 am

T65) 7 Points: 2000

4x Total, 1x 40 WAR, 1x 30 WAR, 2x 20 WAR
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
CFBill Burkholder2000201440.4NO
SSChandler Orm2000200936.0NO
RFOrlando Martinez2000201121.6NO
LFKuan Liao2000201421.3NO
2BPacorro Butieprez2000200917.5NO
2BLuis Costello2000201016.9NO
1BHector Ruiz2000201413.0NO
LFCharlie Scott2000200810.7NO
CSteven Tyus2000200910.2NO
CFAaron Staff200020069.5NO
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:36 am

64) 8 Points: 1975

4x Total, 1x 60 WAR, 3x 20 WAR
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
RFDavis Birch1975199460.7NO
2BAl Bluhm1975198823.6NO
LFWoodrow Wilhoite1975198323.4NO
1BJerome McDunnell1975198220.7NO
3BRobert Huffman1975198519.4NO
CBryan Polinski1975198718.0NO
LFFrancesco Rivera1975198617.8NO
1BDick Allen1975198014.9NO
2BPete Madewald1975198312.5NO
2BAlan Lipsky1975198210.0NO
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:38 am

63) 8 Points: 1980

5x Total, 1x 40 WAR, 1x 30 WAR, 3x 20 WAR
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
2BAnthony Walker1980199343.7NO
CFJoey Beggiani1980199137.3NO
LFGlenn Miller1980199325.5NO
CSang Lim1980199120.7NO
3BJoe Kyle1980199120.4NO
CRay Lewis1980199113.8NO
RFLiam Carr1980198913.8NO
CFArthur Michael1980198613.7NO
1BOscar Moreno1980199012.7NO
CStan Binks1980199010.1NO
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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Post by usnspecialist » Tue Sep 07, 2021 8:41 am

62) 8 Points: 2038

7x Total, 1x 30 WAR, 6x 20 WAR
POSPlayerFromToWARHOF
RFMike Campbell2038204739.9NO
RFMillard Younger2038204729.5NO
CFKidane Ata2038204728.7NO
CFPo-sin Shi2038204725.1NO
LFAnastasio Lopez2038204722.7NO
2BEdgardo Encarnacion2038204721.7NO
CFDan Flores2038204721.2NO
1BTony Hernandez2038204719.7NO
CFRocky Allen2038204719.4NO
3BLucio Cuellar2038204718.7NO
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Havana Sugar Kings/San Fernando Bears: 32-50 (1608-1481)
Des Moines Kernels: 52-

League Champion- 34
JL Champion- 34
FL Champion- 36, 37
JL Southern- 34
FL Pacific- 37, 39
Wild Card- 33, 35, 36, 40, 43

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