Your Random BBA Graph of the week - 2046.05 - HoF 2046

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Your Random BBA Graph of the week - 2046.05 - HoF 2046

Post by CTBrewCrew » Fri Mar 05, 2021 5:45 pm



In this weeks installment we did a total refresh of the HoF Viz.

Gone are the "Where are you from", and "Height & Weight" sections. They have been replaced with Bill James' Hall of Fame Career Standards which I took from this post Baseball Reference HoF Standards I found. I wanted to see how our players stack up historically, and who's the "best" at each position.

I broke it down to the following on the Viz: Top 10 Overall, Top 10 at each Position, Top 10 at Pitching

Hall of Fame Career Standards Test

From the article....

"This test gives a score of 50 for an average Hall of Famer, with 100 as the max (note Babe Ruth is over 100 due to my simplistic addition of his pitching and batting values), though mine are lower due to some difference in positional adjustments that I'll explain below. It is used to measure the overall quality of a player's career as opposed to singular brilliance (peak value).

This can be found in James's book on p. 174-176. All values are for career marks, and I've required 1000 at bats or 500 IP for the rate stats to kick in."


Batting Statistics
One point for each 150 hits above 1500, limit 10.
One point for each .005 of batting average above .275, limit 9
One point for batting over .300
One point for each 100 runs over 900, limit 8.
One point for scoring more than .500 runs per game.
One point for scoring more than .644 runs per game.
One point for each 100 rbi's over 800, limit 8.
One point for driving in more than .500 runs per game.
One point for driving in more than .600 runs per game.
One point for each .025 of slugging percentage above .300, limit 10
One point for each .010 of on-base percentage above .300, limit 10
One point for each 200 home runs.
One point if home runs are more than 10% of hits.
One point if home runs are more than 20% of hits.
One point for each 200 extra base hits over 300, limit 5.
One point for each 200 walks over 300, limit 5.
One point for each 100 stolen bases, limit 5.

James's version: Defensive value: 20 points for catcher, 16 - shortstop, 14 - second base, 13 - third base, 12 - center fielder, 6 - right fielder, 3 - left fielder, 1 - first baseman, 0 - designated hitter
My version: Defensive value: same as that computed for similarity scores. On a 0-20 range.

(I used James's versions because it was easier for me to do.)

Pitching Statistics
One point for each 10 wins over 100, limit 25.
One point for each 20 games over .500, limit 10.
For each of the following a minimum of 500 innings is required before these points are added.
One point for each .013 of winning percentage above .500, limit 15.
One point for each .20 of ERA below 4.00, limit 10.
One point for each 200 strikeouts over 1000, limit 10.
One point for each .30 of BB/9IP below 4.00, limit 10.
One point for each .30 of H/9IP below 10.00, limit 10.
One point for each 1000 innings above 1000, limit 5.
One point for each 100 complete games above 200, limit 5. Changed from James's slightly
One point for each 30 shutouts, limit 5. Changed from James's slightly
Note that this system excludes relievers because there are no set standards for them.

I am going to also produce another one that will show this AND current active players. For that I will use the 1000/500 limits he mentions in his article. I think that will be an interesting experiment to do.

Some things I found interesting using this formula:
  • 32 of our current HoF "Hitters" would be under the HoF average of a 50. Let's move you fella's over to the "Really Good Wing".
  • 34 of our current HoF "Pitchers" would be under the HoF average of 50. Our "Really Good Wing" of the HoF now has 66 players enshrined.
That leaves the @niles08 HoF with 80 players.

Going over this, before adding the "Defensive Value" for C, our HoF C are pretty weak. None were over 50 before the DefVal was added.

I hope this sparks some discussions.

Enjoy!

~Mike
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Re: Your Random BBA Graph of the week - 2046.05 - HoF 2046

Post by Jwalk100 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:12 pm

This is gonna take me a while to go through.

Thanks!
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Re: Your Random BBA Graph of the week - 2046.05 - HoF 2046

Post by JimBob2232 » Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:54 am

My biggest takeaway - Wow. Look at the number of 1B and OF compared to the other I positions (including C). Just more ammunition for me to increase my standards for OF and 1B and decrease them for other positions.

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Post by CTBrewCrew » Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:55 pm

We have 11 HoF C. Only 3 do not make the 50 “average” cut. Those Cs we have elected are for the most part HoF worthy
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Post by niles08 » Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:25 pm

There's nothing wrong with my HOF having 80 people.
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Re: Your Random BBA Graph of the week - 2046.05 - HoF 2046

Post by CTBrewCrew » Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:32 pm

niles08 wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:25 pm
There's nothing wrong with my HOF having 80 people.

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