2045 Farm System Rankings

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2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by RonCo » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:28 pm

It’s that time of year, right? All our teams are off playing games and the kids have settled in for their long summer naps. Let’s take another snapshot of our Farm Systems, M-kay?

You know the deal by now. I go through and pull data on every player in our minor league systems (including international complexes), and simply count the numbers of guys that OOTP says have potential of 40 and higher. Then I weight them all up, and add up all the numbers. Then I rank those numbers, and compare where every team is now against where they’ve been. Pretty simple, right? Remember, though, these are only kids in the minors. As soon as you call up your top prospect, this system ignores him.

In case you care, here are last year’s rankings.

That now covered, let’s get into the situation at hand.


The Overall Picture

It is, perhaps, of particular note that the raw number of prospects in the BBA have grown by something under 22% (354 players) since last year—a majority of which has predictably been in the lower ranks: 270 of the growth is in the 40 and 45 ranks. Some of this is possibly due to our shift to raw ratings—though I think mostly not. My bet is on the big influx of UMEBA draft spillage. Regardless, here are the raw numbers of prospects in or systems as it stands today.

Year807570656055504540Tot
Jun-4210882239541433776751336
Jul-4357102728771504487611513
Jun-4456152537891764488191620
Jun-451181530521012216039331974

If we have a little fun and break the current year out by division, we get:

Div807570656055504540Tot
FLH32410102644176289564
FLP2239142558128209450
JLA2257152363155217489
JLF4234132756144218471
So, the Heartland continues to lead in raw quantity of prospects, but the fact here is also that the bulk of this lead is related to those 40 and 45 kinds of players. When it comes to prospects of higher quality, the other divisions have mostly caught up and even surpassed the Heartland, so we’ll see what that means for the division’s regular season stranglehold in the future.

All right, let’s get into looking at our individual teams. Here are the obligatory set of charts.

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Breakout Performer

You can’t look at this and not be impressed by the Portland system. Chris Wilson managed to do what you need to do when you run a fire sale, and took his farm system from the bottom of the tables to the top. The Lumberjack system carries 24 players rated 50 and better, only one of them in the International Complex. This suggests that, while Portland is once again taking some lumps, their double-clutching the rebuild may well pay off in the semi-near future.


A Look Through the Divisions
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Frick: Pacific – We’ll start with the Frick Pacific this year, where in addition to the Portland mega-move, we see an interesting dynamic. Sacramento, who which was #1, is now #2, and Vancouver mands a step forward to #7—meaning the Pacific has three of the top seven farm systems in the league. (I’ll note that the OOTP system ranks these three as top-10, so there’s some correlation there). Even more interesting, Valencia and Hawaii also improve their ranks by more than 5 positions, and Seattle by two.

Yes, San Fernando and Long Beach continue to be near the bottom, but overall the Pacific division—for the second straight season—has seen their farm clubs as a whole take a step forward.

The division as a whole has 4 of the eleven prospects across the league who are currently projected at 80. Is this a sign? Will the later years of the 2040s see a rising wave in the Pacific division?

We shall see.
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Johnson: Atlantic Moving to another ocean, I should say that this system of mine likes the Atlantic Division more than any other. Yes, the JLA is second in raw prospect count but as a group it’s first in weighted score, both overall and at the top.

At the top we see Jacksonville continuing to rise up. Unlike Portland (and Sacramento last year), Gregg Greathouse’s approach has been slow and steady over the years, increasing from 14 > 7 > 3 in the weighted score ranks. Charm City, too, remains in the upper ranks. Rockville’s system sits third in the division, though its upper regions are boosted a bit by a pair of International Complex players, so you could argue there’s some risk there. Regardless, they’ve made a nice little move up the ranks and represent the best gainer in the division.

On the downslope, Charlotte made some moves to compete now, and perhaps as a result fell eleven slots to 19. New Orleans takes a 6-rank drop, though it’s hard to get too tied up in that. At #10, and with five guys at 60+, they still seem viable. Atlantic City faded a bit, too, but were already in the low ranges of the middle. Brooklyn and Montreal essentially held serve, with the Robin’s los showing ringing in the fact that their window appears to be now.
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Frick: Heartland – Chicago’s system is the class of the Heartland as it stands now—which pains me to no end to write. This statement is brought to you more by the depth of the Sox organization than by the cream. Looking at the Top Prosects shows us Des Moines is #2 in he league, with Omaha (#4) and Nashville (#7) close behind. Chicago sites #13 by those scores.

It’s a situation that makes judging the Heartland a bit more difficult.

I mean, if you look at the big picture, despite that nice top end, Nashville fell hard—mostly as judged in the middle-sones (50 and 55). Louisville, too, has moved players around such that their minors are now slightly below average. Same for my vaunted Yellow Springs. The Nine hung solid in the big picture, but mostly by swallowing a ton of UMEBA semi-prospects. Also, fueled by Ted Schmidt’s Win Now push, the River Monsters had fallen near to the bottom. Madison’s ranks remain tepid.

So, yeah. What’s to make of the Heartland?

You tell me.
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Johnson: Frontier – Boise’s progression through the ranks remains one of slow and steady wins the race. Joe Lederer’s Spuds retain the top slot in the Frontier, edging up another two spots, from 6th to 4th overall. They also hold two of the top six rated prospects in the division. All while competing at the parent club level.

The rest of the division is a bit of a mixed bag. Matt Rectenwald has Vegas moving up the chart, as is the division’s “big mover” in Calgary. All three of these are still pretty small increments, though. Now all-in kinds of things. And, to be honest, the rest of the division is not looking particularly hale. I mean, yes, El Paso has the biggest of the big plays in “No Decision” Cole (heh!), but it’s relatively barren after that. Their overall ranks fell 11 spots. Phoneix, who is on a push to win, dropped ten slots due mostly to trading name guys. Mexico City and San Antonio basically stayed in place, while Edmonton slipped four notches—albeit from 26 > 30.

Bottom line to me says that, despite holding nine prospects rated 70 or higher (tied with the Atlantic for tops) the Frontier is not the sexiest of places to look for prospects in.
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Like last year, I've got the UMEBA done, too. Look for their numbers to hit the presses later today or early tomorrow.
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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by bcslouck » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:39 pm

Love these every year, Ron. Having decent rankings hasn't done much for me lately.
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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by GoldenOne » Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:44 pm

RonCo wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:28 pm

Breakout Performer

You can’t look at this and not be impressed by the Portland system. Chris Wilson managed to do what you need to do when you run a fire sale, and took his farm system from the bottom of the tables to the top. The Lumberjack system carries 24 players rated 50 and better, only one of them in the International Complex. This suggests that, while Portland is once again taking some lumps, their double-clutching the rebuild may well pay off in the semi-near future.
Quite possibly the same reason Charlotte went from 8th to 19th.....
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Post by usnspecialist » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:00 pm

hooray for consistency!!
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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by RonCo » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:27 pm

bcslouck wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:39 pm
Love these every year, Ron. Having decent rankings hasn't done much for me lately.
I'm debating some changes to the process, FWIW. In particular, this system will over-rate relief pitchers in the system (because OOTP continues to put them on the full 20-80 scale rather than focus them on the 20-60 range). I'm also considering some tiny weighting changes across the scale, too. But we'll see.
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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by aaronweiner » Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:29 pm

RonCo wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:27 pm
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Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:39 pm
Love these every year, Ron. Having decent rankings hasn't done much for me lately.
I'm debating some changes to the process, FWIW. In particular, this system will over-rate relief pitchers in the system (because OOTP continues to put them on the full 20-80 scale rather than focus them on the 20-60 range. I'm also considering some tiny weighting changes across the scale, too. But we'll see.
I think this is wise. Still, I hope my farm would be in the middle third, which isn't bad at all.

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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by Fat Nige » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:37 pm

We fell down the ranking because seven of our high placed prospects made the step up to the BBA this year, leaving the farm pretty barren. Now beginning the long trek of growing more prospects
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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by aaronweiner » Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:39 pm

Fat Nige wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:37 pm
We fell down the ranking because seven of our high placed prospects made the step up to the BBA this year, leaving the farm pretty barren. Now beginning the long trek of growing more prospects
I don't think anyone's questioning that you have your Phil of youth.

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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by HoosierVic » Mon Dec 28, 2020 7:50 pm

Given that we’ve traded a bunch prospects over the past couple of seasons in the Purssell, Gomez, and now Flores deals, I’m surprised our system ranks anywhere near the top of the division.

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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by Ted » Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:46 pm

Twin Cities is entirely too not last place. I may need to do something about that.
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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by Lane » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:29 pm

Ted wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:46 pm
Twin Cities is entirely too not last place. I may need to do something about that.
yeah, Ted, how is it that I'm better at destroying a farm system than you?
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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by Ted » Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:33 pm

Lane wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:29 pm
Ted wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:46 pm
Twin Cities is entirely too not last place. I may need to do something about that.
yeah, Ted, how is it that I'm better at destroying a farm system than you?
You've had more practice?
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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by CTBrewCrew » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:39 am

...Madison is tepid
for that to be true we”ve needed to be hot at some point. 😝

I think part of it that I've not blown up the franchise by trading away a star for a haul of prospects - I've picked outside the top 10 since i took over in 2041, usually somewhere in the teens - so its hard to get a “80” or even a 70 pot rated player. Ive got more 65-55 rated players now, more so when I came aboard in 2041. I know i know, that’s like being the thinest kid at fat camp. 😜

The cupboard was pretty bare when i arrived in Madison, the previous GM did try a “blow up” but failed IMO to get anything of value back for #NoMons. Ive also been forced to move my top rated prospects out of the farms quicker due to lack of talent on the BBA roster.

Looking at the two of the top rated, Both Portland and Jax have had “fire sales” to vault them to the top.

I thought you would have rated DM system top in the best division in baseball

Anywho good stuff as always @RonCo

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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by Fat Nige » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:51 am

A lot of the problems you’ve faced Mike have been mirrored in Wichita/El Paso. I’ve improved the number of 55-65 rated players (not hard when I only had one) but to do that I’ve had to rush everyone to the BBA. It’s been great drafting so low, you at least get one reasonable prospect but often that’s all. There’s so many supplemental and compensation picks these days that by the time you get your second pick, pickings are slim and by the third pick you really are trawling in the reject bucket
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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by niles08 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:21 am

Happy to see Omaha slowly creeping up from being in the 30's for several years.
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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by Ted » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:54 am

Lane wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:29 pm
Ted wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:46 pm
Twin Cities is entirely too not last place. I may need to do something about that.
yeah, Ted, how is it that I'm better at destroying a farm system than you?
Fixed it.
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Re: 2045 Farm System Rankings

Post by usnspecialist » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:43 am

Ted wrote:
Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:46 pm
Twin Cities is entirely too not last place. I may need to do something about that.
I see you took your own advice
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