2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by jleddy » Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:52 pm

HoosierVic wrote:
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Yeah, Ron has scripts that can go through the game logs and pull a variety of different stats, etc. This is one of those - always fascinating to look at!
Or he makes up the numbers just to confuse us and lead us astray...I haven't ruled that out entirely.
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by RonCo » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:38 pm

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Okay...I'm clearly not looking in the right places. Where does this data come from?
Yeah...I save off all the game logs and run a script through them that gives me the result of every plate appearance. I wrote a description of this particular measurement back in the day. I should probably find it and link to it again. Will do when I get a chance.

It gives you a fighting chance to see how your defense is performing on the whole, and whatever you think are the relative differences.
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by jcrmoon42 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:42 pm

That's awesome. It pays to have L33t Haxxors in the league. (Does anybody even use that term any more?)

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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by RonCo » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:18 pm

Here's a link that discusses the algorithm a bit. >> viewtopic.php?f=23&t=25393&p=143039
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by RonCo » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:43 pm

BBA DEFENSE BY PLAYS MADE ABOVE AVERAGE: 6/29/2042

TEAMGBFBLD(IF)LD(OF)TOTAL
Boise Spuds19.014.30.98.742.9
Louisville Sluggers15.521.9-0.14.742.0
Brooklyn Robins7.826.0-0.46.940.4
Edmonton Jackrabbits38.74.60.4-5.837.9
Yellow Springs Nine27.7-1.22.63.432.4
San Antonio Outlaws13.115.4-0.80.728.4
Charlotte Cougars17.27.80.41.326.7
Chicago Black Sox21.93.4-0.50.024.9
California Crusaders15.61.41.02.019.9
Montreal Blazers6.217.0-0.8-3.818.6
Las Vegas Hustlers14.2-1.60.62.115.3
Wichita Aviators10.56.9-0.5-4.312.7
Nashville Bluebirds0.36.4-1.87.712.6
Omaha Hawks-8.210.30.47.49.8
Charm City Jimmies5.62.1-1.62.78.7
Mexico City Aztecs2.86.30.8-4.95.0
Phoenix Talons12.4-6.8-0.5-4.80.3
Altantic City Gamblers-3.54.60.9-3.2-1.2
San Fernando Bears-5.13.4-1.3-6.8-9.7
Vancouver Mounties15.6-29.21.6-2.0-14.0
Hawaii Tropics-0.6-10.0-0.1-6.7-17.3
Seattle Storm-7.6-10.80.7-3.1-20.8
Calgary Pioneers-10.9-7.0-0.2-3.3-21.4
Valencia Stars-25.1-4.50.85.6-23.3
Twin Cities River Monsters1.6-27.9-1.01.4-25.8
Madison Wolves-12.2-12.6-1.3-1.6-27.6
Des Moines Kernels-15.8-9.2-0.3-4.0-29.3
Long Beach Surfers-22.8-10.01.12.3-29.4
Rockville Pikemen-7.3-15.81.6-8.0-29.5
Portland Lumberjacks-34.7-3.3-0.8-1.3-40.1
New Orleans Crawdads-48.34.50.7-0.2-43.3
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by jleddy » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:44 pm

Top spot on this gets into the playoffs, right?
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by jleddy » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:48 pm

Kinda gross how good Louisville's outfield is offensively AND defensively.
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by crobillard » Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:49 pm

Look at that Menzies/Espinoza led infield! Love it.

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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by shoeless.db » Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:28 pm

Holy hell! I’m positive in the outfield! Miracles do happen, boys!!!
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by DugoutDesperado » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:00 am

That just ruined my breakfast.

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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by ae37jr » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:57 am

Honestly, this data might be the single reason why Brooklyn is doing well this season. I started the year with defensive wizard António Cordero as my RF. We went 14-13 in April(about what I expected) and were a top this defensive list. I then tried(and failed) to add more offense, benching Cordero in favor of a below average fielder and went 10-17 in May. I looked at this data and saw our defense was falling hard. So I put Cordero back in the lineup and we went 20-7 in June and are trending up on this list.

Granted, I'm not suggesting the entire 10 game swing was because of the one or two plays Cordero makes a game over his replacement. Surely there are other things going on. But for a team with sub par pitching, you can see the difference a good outfield makes.
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by crobillard » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:59 am

ae37jr wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:57 am
Honestly, this data might be the single reason why Brooklyn is doing well this season. I started the year with defensive wizard António Cordero as my RF. We went 14-13 in April(about what I expected) and were a top this defensive list. I then tried(and failed) to add more offense, benching Cordero in favor of a below average fielder and went 10-17 in May. I looked at this data and saw our defense was falling hard. So I put Cordero back in the lineup and we went 20-7 in June and are trending up on this list.

Granted, I'm not suggesting the entire 10 game swing was because of the one or two plays Cordero makes a game over his replacement. Surely there are other things going on. But for a team with sub par pitching, you can see the difference a good outfield makes.
I feel like Edmonton is benefiting from this same thing in the infield right now.

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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by FuzzyRawley » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:48 pm

HoosierVic wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:50 pm
Yeah, Ron has scripts that can go through the game logs and pull a variety of different stats, etc. This is one of those - always fascinating to look at!
Ah, another reason to start learning python!
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by CTBrewCrew » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:03 pm

im curious as to how my inf does the 2nd half of the year after ive shuffled them around
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by RonCo » Tue May 05, 2020 7:00 pm

BBA DEFENSE BY PLAYS MADE ABOVE AVERAGE: 8/3/2042

TEAMGBFBLD(IF)LD(OF)TOTAL
Boise Spuds26.5312.822.0212.1253.50
Louisville Sluggers16.5726.42-0.169.7452.57
Edmonton Jackrabbits49.163.640.47-4.5348.74
Brooklyn Robins8.8129.64-0.219.3947.63
Chicago Black Sox24.1213.18-0.50-0.8036.00
San Antonio Outlaws26.877.15-1.031.0734.06
Yellow Springs Nine36.34-7.440.753.7133.36
Charlotte Cougars25.762.210.412.6030.97
Omaha Hawks-6.2223.720.3510.5728.43
Wichita Aviators7.0215.70-0.410.4422.75
Las Vegas Hustlers17.824.880.58-0.6422.64
Nashville Bluebirds6.818.04-1.628.8922.12
Charm City Jimmies12.356.97-1.621.1818.88
Montreal Blazers8.3713.56-0.88-3.1817.86
California Crusaders18.95-1.790.92-3.6114.47
Mexico City Aztecs3.907.091.85-7.415.43
San Fernando Bears3.350.68-1.19-6.17-3.33
Calgary Pioneers-5.381.29-0.27-2.50-6.86
Altantic City Gamblers-3.190.150.93-5.65-7.76
Phoenix Talons4.62-7.18-0.47-6.61-9.63
Vancouver Mounties16.60-34.291.78-3.03-18.94
Twin Cities River Monsters9.37-30.92-1.030.94-21.64
Valencia Stars-29.00-2.510.604.54-26.37
Madison Wolves-20.09-13.72-1.090.28-34.63
New Orleans Crawdads-47.269.120.960.36-36.83
Portland Lumberjacks-32.12-1.21-0.89-2.66-36.89
Hawaii Tropics-15.62-15.180.02-8.58-39.36
Rockville Pikemen-12.46-20.911.75-9.24-40.86
Seattle Storm-9.52-26.43-0.23-5.41-41.59
Long Beach Surfers-37.18-5.910.840.63-41.62
Des Moines Kernels-32.26-9.99-0.19-0.32-42.77
Jacksonville Hurricanes-72.99-8.78-2.463.88-80.34
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by jleddy » Tue May 05, 2020 7:14 pm

Gregg, your coaching staff knows they're allowed to put four players on the infield, right?
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by RonCo » Tue May 05, 2020 7:25 pm

It's the Cane shift.
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by crobillard » Tue May 05, 2020 7:55 pm

14 more plays in my infield above average from 6/29-8/3. Pretty good.

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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by 7teen » Wed May 06, 2020 12:58 pm

Still surprised by my OF. I have the top ranked LF and CF based on ZR in the Frick and still in the negative in plays above average. Just goes to show you can't hide one bad fielder I suppose. My RFs combine for a -10 ZR though. With my main one coming in at a -4.0 ZR.
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Re: 2042 BBA Defensive Plays Above Average

Post by HoosierVic » Wed May 06, 2020 5:59 pm

Say what you will about Jim Lorenzen (and I’ve said a lot) the Sox have added 10 plays above average in the outfield between June 29 and Aug 3, when he came back into the lineup.

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