C.R.E.A.M. of the Free Agency Crop

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C.R.E.A.M. of the Free Agency Crop

Post by jleddy » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:39 pm

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So Ron said this in his recent post THREE SIGNINGS TOP HOT, EARLY FREE AGENT MARKET:
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Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:58 pm
But, on the other hand, I just want the guys I want to be reasonable. You get the idea. These guys should just want to be in Yellow Springs.
I actually thought about this last year during free agency. What do free agents want, besides fistfuls of cash and maybe a date with Mandy Anderson? Do you think anything having to do with a team's success factors into a free agent's decision to sign?

Before we go into how a team's success does or doesn't go into a free agent's decision, I do believe there is at least one factor, possibly two others, about a team that are considered:
  • Manager relationship - We've probably all experienced a free agent not even entertaining talks because they cite their personality clashes with the manager.
  • Playing time - I've seen responses by free agents after submitting an offer along the lines of "Based on who you have at my position, I'm not interested". I don't know if this is true or just random narrative plucked out of an internal database. This one may or may not actually factor in.
  • Promised role - The option to tell the free agent a promised role may or may not affect their willingness to sign. I do know that it can be a factor once they are under contract and their playing time is not what was promised, so they can ask for a trade or cause issues in team chemistry.
We all know (or at least I think we do) that a free agent won't take a drastically lower offer to join a winner, but what else beside the dollar sign may affect their decision?
  • Team success/trajectory - Do free agents "know" Team X just won a Landis or has been to the playoffs in X straight years? Does a GM's 'score' go into calculating a free agent's preferences to sign or not? Is a team's focus of "Win Now!" more attractive to free agents? Conversely, does a "Rebuild" focus deter free agents?
  • No-trade clause - Do free agents with "high" loyalty ratings prefer to sign when presented with a no-trade clause?
  • Literal "home town discount" - In real life, sometimes it's suggested a player, whether it be in free agency or in requesting a trade, want to play for the team near the city/state they grew up in and/or went to college. I think this is largely blown out of proportion and I would find it hard to believe if some algorithm gives the Black Sox any advantage in signing Luis Barerra just because he's from Chicago, all other things being even.
Would love to hear your thoughts and experiences about this!
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Re: C.R.E.A.M. of the Free Agency Crop

Post by Lane » Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:53 pm

I get the manager relationship pretty often.

Never seen the playing time issue... Interesting.

The "Rebuild" focus, I'm nearly certain has a big impact on some guys. I seem to recall having guys not be interested in signing with me, and then after having the focus change to Neutral they would talk to me.
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Post by RonCo » Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:20 pm

That's interesting. Makes some sense, I suppose.
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Re: C.R.E.A.M. of the Free Agency Crop

Post by Fat Nige » Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:29 am

The manager relationship line cost Liam Hopkins his job this off season lol. Just too many FA’s were throwing that at me
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Post by ae37jr » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:57 am

Fat Nige wrote:
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The manager relationship line cost Liam Hopkins his job this off season lol. Just too many FA’s were throwing that at me
This isn't a shocker. From the articles i've read, the Hopkins family may have rubbed more then a few the wrong way.
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Re: C.R.E.A.M. of the Free Agency Crop

Post by Lane » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:51 am

ae37jr wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:57 am
Fat Nige wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:29 am
The manager relationship line cost Liam Hopkins his job this off season lol. Just too many FA’s were throwing that at me
This isn't a shocker. From the articles i've read, the Hopkins family may have rubbed more then a few the wrong way.
In fact I think it is their specialty.
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Re: C.R.E.A.M. of the Free Agency Crop

Post by RonCo » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:16 pm

Players should just want to live in Yellow Springs for its fundamental focus on truth, justice, and fundamental humanitarian virtues.
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Post by shoeless.db » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:28 pm

RonCo wrote:
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Players should just want to live in Yellow Springs for its fundamental focus on truth, justice, and fundamental humanitarian virtues.
and its faint scent of pig shit
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Post by RonCo » Fri Mar 20, 2020 3:44 pm

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Post by CTBrewCrew » Sat Mar 21, 2020 12:07 am

I've also gotten a few "I'm not playing for that POS Manager" already this off season...
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Re: C.R.E.A.M. of the Free Agency Crop

Post by jleddy » Sat Mar 21, 2020 1:52 am

CTBrewCrew wrote:
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I've also gotten a few "I'm not playing for that POS Manager" already this off season...
He's a 5'9 Frenchman with a pencil mustache...do you blame them?
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