The Brewster

Lucky #13 version of your RBBAGOTW is out, and it help answer some of the decades long discussions on what division is truly the best in the BBA. <Cough-Cough> Heartland...

I thought I would do a multi-part viz-series breaking them up into Hitting/Pitching/Fielding. I started with Hitting / Offensive Catagories.

Shocking to find, two of the divisions that talk the most sh*t are ranked 3 & 4th overall. The one division that is ranked #1 in 6 out of the 16 categories polled was.....??!??! Well your just gonna have to find out for yourself....

Its a pretty simple Viz, hovering over the Division name will break it down into more detail...

Once I get the final 2041 data I will update to reflect that season...

Enjoy

~Mike

Definitely a fun viz, but you can't judge a league vs. another league based on offensive numbers alone. Ballparks alone will warp these things.

agreed with ron, it might be an interesting analysis to see what the average park factors for each division is.

Hey - you are what your record/ranking says you are. Pick players to fit your park or build a park to fit your players.... Park factor eh within division - since they all play w/in the same parks anyway. The same for the conference. If your comparing divisions - the parks / players seem to fit better together that other divisions for offensive categories are in the pacific. You could make the argument that park factors effects ALL stats. Some players are better on the road vs home, etc. It inflates some stats and lessens others...

You just gave me an idea to break it down also by ranks of teams w/in division...even better home vs away for each team. See the park factor impact there...but also do the P one. Is the Pacific so good because its division has the worst overall P? Stay tuned..... (lol THANKS Ron)

I pulled the average park factors for each division and ranked them out. Here is how they lay out in comparison to each other as well as the league as a whole.

OVERALL AVERAGE:
Atlantic: 1.023
Pacific: 1.016
League: 1.010
Heartland: 1.008
Frontier: .993

LHB AVERAGE:
Atlantic: 1.030
League: 1.015
Heartland: 1.015
Pacific: 1.014
Frontier: 1.002

RHB AVERAGE:
Atlantic: 1.020
Pacific: 1.016
League: 1.007
Heartland: 1.005
Frontier: .988

DOUBLES:
Frontier: 1.072
League: 1.021
Atlantic: 1.014
Heartland: 1.008
Pacific: .990

TRIPLES:
Atlantic: 1.089
Frontier: 1.075
League: 1.031
Heartland: 1.027
Pacific: .932

OVERALL HOME RUNS:
Heartland: .996
Frontier: .994
League: .986
Atlantic: .981
Pacific: .975

LHB HOME RUNS:
Atlantic: 1.008
Frontier: 1.003
League: .984
Pacific: .963
Heartland: .962

RHB HOME RUNS:
Heartland: 1.015
Frontier: .989
League: .986
Pacific: .974
Atlantic: .965

It is interesting that despite being one of the top offensive divisions by statistics across the board, the Pacific is near the bottom of most of the categories by park factors.

Its been updated... please check it out now...

Its been updated....


BTW - My FAV park in the BBA is Louisville. Also, I cannot believe it took me this long to see that I have 20 foot high walls from the LF line to CF!!!

Also - SFB has a 479 foot shot to CF?!?

Yeah Thought that also about the pacific

Your best stadiums

AVG - Seattle (1.1200), and worst is Chicago (.9340)
AVG L - Seattle (1.1200) and worst is Valencia (.9.200)
AVG R - Seattle (1.1200) and worst is Chicago (.9340)
Doubles - San Antonio, Hawaii & Charlotte (1.200) and worst is Valencia (.8100)
Triples - Wichita (1.2120) and worst is Madison (.8000)
HRs - Louisville (1.1148) and worst is Madison (.8000)
HRs L - Louisville (1.2000) and worst is Madison (.8000)
HRs R - Omaha (1.2000) and worst is Madison (.8000)

Must be that 20 foot wall from (LL-LC) in Madison that keeps everything in the park. (Surprised Vancouver's 35 foot wall in RC-RL didn't come into play more), must not be that many lefty's come into play.

CTBrewCrew wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:01 pm

Its been updated... please check it out now...

Its been updated....


BTW - My FAV park in the BBA is Louisville. Also, I cannot believe it took me this long to see that I have 20 foot high walls from the LF line to CF!!!

Also - SFB has a 479 foot shot to CF?!?

My stadium is an exact copy of the polo grounds.

I ran each stadium through the stadium generators util for the viz it was very interesting to see each one.

Ive seen wallsize mentioned a couple times. You realize dimensions are entirely cosmetic right? the only thing that matters is those factors.

bschr682 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:21 pm

Ive seen wallsize mentioned a couple times. You realize dimensions are entirely cosmetic right? the only thing that matters is those factors.

Not exactly. Wall height (along with foul area and altitude), if applied into the OOTP Park Generator, effects the park factors. So if a park is properly created, those are ultimately baked into the factors, but yes, during game play those things don't matter.

jleddy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:42 pm

bschr682 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:21 pm

Ive seen wallsize mentioned a couple times. You realize dimensions are entirely cosmetic right? the only thing that matters is those factors.

Not exactly. Wall height (along with foul area and altitude), if applied into the OOTP Park Generator, effects the park factors. So if a park is properly created, those are ultimately baked into the factors, but yes, during game play those things don't matter.

I think what Brett is getting at is that since we are able to directly change the park factors, the dimensions/wall height etc don't really mean what they would mean otherwise.

Yes, given we can directly change park factors, it almost makes even the dimensions arbitrary.

Park factors are a great example of OOTP backward design simplification.

In a perfect universe, the actual size and whatnot of parks would be the driver, but instead OOTP decides what it needs, then backs into the specifics. as long as you don't look too closely, it's all good.

Lane wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:47 pm

jleddy wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:42 pm

bschr682 wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 2:21 pm

Ive seen wallsize mentioned a couple times. You realize dimensions are entirely cosmetic right? the only thing that matters is those factors.

Not exactly. Wall height (along with foul area and altitude), if applied into the OOTP Park Generator, effects the park factors. So if a park is properly created, those are ultimately baked into the factors, but yes, during game play those things don't matter.

I think what Brett is getting at is that since we are able to directly change the park factors, the dimensions/wall height etc don't really mean what they would mean otherwise.

So your saying Louisville’s short porch in right has no bearing in game?

CTBrewCrew wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 08, 2020 5:12 pm

So your saying Louisville’s short porch in right has no bearing in game?

- If you leave the dimensions the same, and adjust the park factors, stats change.
- If you leave the park factors the same, but adjust the dimensions (and walls, for that matter), the stats don't change.

The ballpark creator mod is nice because it will create a form of park factors that change when you alter the dimensions. But still, in the game, you have to enter them both because in the game itself the dimensions are cosmetic...and only really come into play as the game is presenting play by play.

Yep. If you want you can have the park factors for homeruns jacked up and input 1000 foot walls that are miles away from home plate and then watch as players hit absolute moonshots...

I'm of the fairly firm belief, for example, that in a game between LOU and YS, the game would calculate the occurrence of a homer to RF based on the park effects. Then once it determine the hit was a homer it would decide how far the ball was hit. In Louisville, where that fence is 320 feet, it might say the ball traveled 330 feet. In Yellow Springs (where that fence is 352 feet) that same calculation would say the ball traveled 365 feet, or whatever.

Test it though. Maybe I'm wrong now. I know that's how it was a while back, though. So, assumung I'm right, take a fake league with regular park factors, change the walls to 700 feet, and watch your guys start hitting 780 foot monster homers.

I heard "Humidor Factor" is part of OOTP21's release...