Yeah... with Man not playing, the defense is a mess and now that Wareham is out, it's going to get worse. I'm afraid TWC is in for some rough years ahead, the door is closing.ae37jr wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 6:39 pmIt looks as if Wareham is having a bit of a down season defensively. He's still 8/8/9/11, which is perfectly fine with a bat like his IMO. Man has lumped offensively and having a terrible season, so the more offensive Joey Newhouse has stepped in and he is hurting the defense some. It's always a struggle trying to balance offense and defense in this game.RonCo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:30 pmHere's Twin Cities' chart by zone...it does look like the middle of the infield is the "problem" if you assume sample size of two months is relevant.
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PLAYS 3L 3 34 4 4M 6M 6 56 5 5L SHAL 0.00 -1.03 -1.08 -6.77 0.25 -0.04 -0.05 0.04 0.70 0.00 MID 0.72 1.11 1.18 -0.93 -3.52 -0.37 -2.72 1.99 1.37 -4.27 DEEP 0.00 -0.40 -1.61 -0.56 -2.11 0.13 0.68 -2.49 -1.21 0.00
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Re: 2038 Defense: Through End of May
Through July 28...
BBA DEFENSE: PLAYS ABOVE AVERAGE
BBA DEFENSE: PLAYS ABOVE AVERAGE
TEAM | GB | FB | LD(IF) | LD(OF) | TOTAL |
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Mexico City Aztecs | 23.0 | 23.8 | -1.0 | 3.3 | 49.1 |
Boise Spuds | 45.0 | -6.0 | -1.2 | 9.2 | 47.1 |
Rockville Pikemen | 13.1 | 17.8 | 1.0 | 8.1 | 40.0 |
Phoenix Talons | 11.0 | 19.5 | 1.6 | 2.1 | 34.1 |
Louisville Sluggers | 14.4 | 12.2 | -0.9 | 6.9 | 32.6 |
Long Beach Surfers | 19.2 | 8.1 | 0.3 | 1.5 | 29.1 |
Jacksonville Hurricanes | 0.4 | 20.7 | 0.0 | 1.8 | 22.9 |
Omaha Hawks | 30.7 | -11.4 | -1.1 | -2.6 | 15.6 |
San Antonio Outlaws | 33.7 | -17.1 | 0.0 | -1.6 | 15.0 |
Calgary Pioneers | -12.7 | 25.1 | -0.7 | 2.0 | 13.7 |
Charm City Jimmies | 24.6 | -17.9 | 0.6 | 3.0 | 10.3 |
California Crusaders | 25.4 | -8.6 | -1.0 | -7.3 | 8.5 |
Wichita Aviators | 4.0 | 0.8 | 0.5 | 3.0 | 8.3 |
Edmonton Jackrabbits | -9.0 | 10.5 | 1.9 | 4.4 | 7.8 |
Nashville Goats | -7.2 | 11.4 | 1.3 | -2.2 | 3.4 |
Yellow Springs Nine | 4.9 | -4.8 | 0.7 | -2.2 | -1.4 |
Hawaii Tropics | 16.8 | -11.5 | -0.4 | -7.8 | -2.9 |
San Fernando Bears | -22.1 | 19.7 | 0.7 | -1.4 | -3.0 |
Huntsville Phantoms | -0.2 | -8.5 | -0.4 | 6.0 | -3.1 |
Vancouver Mounties | -9.3 | 10.9 | -1.2 | -3.5 | -3.1 |
Des Moines Kernels | -7.3 | -2.6 | -0.9 | -1.5 | -12.3 |
Montreal Blazers | -14.8 | 4.0 | 0.5 | -3.0 | -13.4 |
Brooklyn Robins | -19.5 | -4.5 | -1.2 | 9.7 | -15.4 |
Valencia Stars | -0.6 | -14.1 | -0.1 | -0.7 | -15.4 |
Seattle Storm | 2.2 | -18.6 | 0.3 | -1.0 | -17.1 |
Las Vegas Hustlers | 0.7 | -29.1 | 1.5 | -12.8 | -39.7 |
Altantic City Gamblers | -36.3 | -5.6 | -1.0 | 2.2 | -40.7 |
Twin Cities River Monsters | -33.6 | -10.6 | -1.1 | -2.5 | -47.8 |
Madison Wolves | -39.6 | -5.5 | 0.2 | -6.5 | -51.3 |
New Orleans Crawdads | -57.1 | -8.1 | 0.9 | -6.5 | -70.8 |
League | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
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here's the raw data file, if anyone is insane enough to want to mess with it.
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My infield defense is terrible because I'm cross training in attempt to make players more valuable. I have 2 centerfielders playing 2b and SS, and my first and third baseman would be flip flopped if I was playing for real.
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New Orleans with a -57 on the infield is kinda nuts.
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The worst performances overall for a season to date have been:usnspecialist wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 12:44 pmNew Orleans with a -57 on the infield is kinda nuts.
2035 - Valencia (-63.3 Plays Above Average)
2037 - Wichita (-119.6 Playes Above Average)
I missed taking 2036 game logs before they got written over.
On the infield it was:
2035 - Valencia (-49.1)
2037 - Wichita (-99.7)
So New Orleans is certainly not good.
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Same data, by division...most interesting split? Look at Vegas in the cutthroat Sun Belt:
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It is nuts. And I can’t shake it.usnspecialist wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2019 12:44 pmNew Orleans with a -57 on the infield is kinda nuts.
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Ramirez and Gonzlaes were always going to be rugged at 2b, but you'd have thought Ruiz would have been better at shortstop.
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This really illustrates the importance of defense. Almost all of the top defensive teams are leading the division and almost all the worst defenders are in the basement.
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Yeah. And I have no kids to bring up. I was hoping Paul warren would help.
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My defense is atrocious but I think I figured out why.
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Updated through Mid-September:
BBA DEFENSE: PLAYS ABOVE AVERAGE
BBA DEFENSE: PLAYS ABOVE AVERAGE
TEAM | GB | FB | LD(IF) | LD(OF) | TOTAL |
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Mexico City Aztecs | 27.4 | 51.1 | -2.0 | 3.4 | 79.9 |
Jacksonville Hurricanes | 13.4 | 37.0 | -0.9 | 7.4 | 56.8 |
Boise Spuds | 58.5 | -6.2 | -1.1 | 5.6 | 56.7 |
Long Beach Surfers | 36.1 | 11.9 | 0.5 | 2.5 | 51.1 |
Rockville Pikemen | 23.8 | 15.7 | 1.2 | 9.2 | 50.0 |
Louisville Sluggers | 12.7 | 20.2 | -0.9 | 11.3 | 43.2 |
Phoenix Talons | 12.9 | 21.9 | 0.6 | 5.4 | 40.7 |
Charm City Jimmies | 37.8 | -21.7 | 2.4 | 0.2 | 18.8 |
San Antonio Outlaws | 40.1 | -19.8 | -0.9 | -3.7 | 15.8 |
Edmonton Jackrabbits | -13.7 | 16.0 | 0.7 | 8.1 | 11.0 |
Nashville Goats | 2.1 | 6.8 | 1.4 | -4.1 | 6.1 |
Vancouver Mounties | -17.9 | 25.7 | -0.3 | -1.7 | 5.8 |
California Crusaders | 20.0 | -11.7 | -1.0 | -3.5 | 3.7 |
Calgary Pioneers | -21.3 | 19.4 | 0.2 | 4.8 | 3.1 |
Wichita Aviators | 1.6 | -5.1 | 0.5 | 4.8 | 1.8 |
Montreal Blazers | -8.4 | 14.4 | 0.5 | -5.5 | 0.9 |
Yellow Springs Nine | 9.0 | -8.1 | 1.1 | -6.0 | -4.1 |
Omaha Hawks | 14.7 | -15.8 | 0.0 | -3.2 | -4.3 |
Brooklyn Robins | -11.9 | -4.7 | -2.1 | 13.6 | -5.0 |
Des Moines Kernels | 3.1 | 0.6 | -1.9 | -8.2 | -6.3 |
Seattle Storm | 11.4 | -22.6 | 0.4 | -3.3 | -14.1 |
San Fernando Bears | -31.3 | 15.7 | 1.4 | 0.0 | -14.2 |
Huntsville Phantoms | -8.9 | -10.5 | -2.2 | 6.8 | -14.7 |
Hawaii Tropics | 2.5 | -16.8 | 0.7 | -9.7 | -23.4 |
Valencia Stars | -2.1 | -21.6 | 0.1 | -0.2 | -23.8 |
Altantic City Gamblers | -48.8 | -4.0 | -0.8 | 0.4 | -53.2 |
Madison Wolves | -34.6 | -17.3 | 0.9 | -5.8 | -56.8 |
Las Vegas Hustlers | -4.0 | -39.7 | 1.6 | -15.7 | -57.8 |
Twin Cities River Monsters | -59.6 | -15.0 | -1.0 | -2.4 | -78.0 |
New Orleans Crawdads | -64.2 | -16.0 | 0.9 | -10.5 | -89.8 |
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Re: 2038 Defense: (Updated Through mid-Sept)
UPDATE: my infield range is still bad
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Re: 2038 Defense: (Updated Through mid-Sept)
Given the shoot out going on, note the 137 play disparity between MEX and LV. Bulk of it in the outfield...
That's some defense.
That's some defense.
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Re: 2038 Defense: (Updated Through mid-Sept)
Started playing Daniel more at 2B and with Ford out my of defense is far worse so it makes sense to see a drop-off.
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Re: 2038 Defense: (Updated Through mid-Sept)
It's the only thing keeping Mexico City's defensive output ahead of mine I think.
Otherwise I might be leading the league in pitching.
Otherwise I might be leading the league in pitching.
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Re: 2038 Defense: (Updated Through mid-Sept)
Aaron's comment got me wondering about Bill James' old comment that a lot of what we think of as pitching is really defense.
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