Fan Interest 1995 - 2036
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Fan Interest 1995 - 2036
StatsPlus is just full of cool stuff! Here's a look at historical (1995-2036) fan interest, by division.
Quite a run for 2000-2013 Brooklyn!
The 20's belonged to New Orleans.
Would ya believe that Vegas has been consistently high for a long time?
The early 2000's for Madison, and check out that YS9 number since 2031!
Seems to be a lot of running together in the FLP. And three well rated teams today.
A damn popular division! I'm sure Edmonton will join the others soon.
Quite a run for 2000-2013 Brooklyn!
The 20's belonged to New Orleans.
Would ya believe that Vegas has been consistently high for a long time?
The early 2000's for Madison, and check out that YS9 number since 2031!
Seems to be a lot of running together in the FLP. And three well rated teams today.
A damn popular division! I'm sure Edmonton will join the others soon.
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Re: Fan Interest 1995 - 2036
Great piece. Man the San Fernando franchise has been a pinball in their 3 cities.
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Re: Fan Interest 1995 - 2036
I love the steady march we see in YS9. Little blip in 2027, but that happens, you know.
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FI is so weird. We were at about 80 the year we won our first title, and are below 90 this year with one of the best records in the league, on the back of a long playoff streak and two league titles. Ungrateful Jacksonvillians.....maybe I should move back to Greenville!
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Yes, FI is wonky. We're down to 95 after being at 100 for quite awhile.
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I admit I don't know the real details, but realize OOTP manages the overall environment in ways it thinks it needs to keep things going.
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I wonder if there is a cap on overall fan interest around the league and when one team gains, it has to come from somebody else. Like say the average is 82. 82*30 teams would be 2460 total pieces of fan interest that we are all playing tug of war over. This would support my theory that it got a lot harder to gain, a lot easier to lose FI before the start of the 2035 season. That's when we got two new expansion teams starting out at the top.
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I love OOTP, but I know I complain about it a lot. I think these things can co-exist. I want this game to be better. Having said that, any system where my fan interest declines during the season the year after I won a championship, am winning at a franchise record pace, have the best record in the league, and multiple players are having career years is not a good one. I don't care if it's working as intended. Then the intent is wrong.
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Re: Fan Interest 1995 - 2036
Maybe your ticket prices are just too high.
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Stats+ fan interest history totals are enough to show that's not how fan interest works.ae37jr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:47 amI wonder if there is a cap on overall fan interest around the league and when one team gains, it has to come from somebody else. Like say the average is 82. 82*30 teams would be 2460 total pieces of fan interest that we are all playing tug of war over. This would support my theory that it got a lot harder to gain, a lot easier to lose FI before the start of the 2035 season. That's when we got two new expansion teams starting out at the top.
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Yeah, the program is a bit simplisticTed wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:52 amI love OOTP, but I know I complain about it a lot. I think these things can co-exist. I want this game to be better. Having said that, any system where my fan interest declines during the season the year after I won a championship, am winning at a franchise record pace, have the best record in the league, and multiple players are having career years is not a good one. I don't care if it's working as intended. Then the intent is wrong.
- Release Popular player... goes down. Who cares if the guy has been sucking for 2 years straight and is overpaid.
Maybe FI should operate like other ratings where it's possible for it go above 100 in theory, even if it stays at 100. So like in your case, it should be maxed out because of how well the team and Front Office is performing. Then if you have to make a move that makes fans potentially unhappy, like cutting a player... it's stays at 100 and doesn't immediately go to 98. Like a buffer period where as long as the team is still playing well, the fan interest says maxed.
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But I haven't made any transactions since opening day. I did lose a bit of FI in the offseason due to letting a couple guys go, and I gained some in the preseason with extension. But my FI has been dropping DURING the season as I'm winning game after game. This isn't just a simplicity thing related to player transactions. Something is fundamentally wrong in the design if you can lose FI while you dominate the league while being the defending champs.Spiccoli wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:19 amYeah, the program is a bit simplisticTed wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:52 amI love OOTP, but I know I complain about it a lot. I think these things can co-exist. I want this game to be better. Having said that, any system where my fan interest declines during the season the year after I won a championship, am winning at a franchise record pace, have the best record in the league, and multiple players are having career years is not a good one. I don't care if it's working as intended. Then the intent is wrong.
- Release Popular player... goes down. Who cares if the guy has been sucking for 2 years straight and is overpaid.
Maybe FI should operate like other ratings where it's possible for it go above 100 in theory, even if it stays at 100. So like in your case, it should be maxed out because of how well the team and Front Office is performing. Then if you have to make a move that makes fans potentially unhappy, like cutting a player... it's stays at 100 and doesn't immediately go to 98. Like a buffer period where as long as the team is still playing well, the fan interest says maxed.
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Well, I mean it's not like theres an interesting division race to watch. I suppose at some point it could get boring if your team just wins all the time and isn't really in a race.Ted wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:30 amBut I haven't made any transactions since opening day. I did lose a bit of FI in the offseason due to letting a couple guys go, and I gained some in the preseason with extension. But my FI has been dropping DURING the season as I'm winning game after game. This isn't just a simplicity thing related to player transactions. Something is fundamentally wrong in the design if you can lose FI while you dominate the league while being the defending champs.Spiccoli wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:19 amYeah, the program is a bit simplisticTed wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:52 amI love OOTP, but I know I complain about it a lot. I think these things can co-exist. I want this game to be better. Having said that, any system where my fan interest declines during the season the year after I won a championship, am winning at a franchise record pace, have the best record in the league, and multiple players are having career years is not a good one. I don't care if it's working as intended. Then the intent is wrong.
- Release Popular player... goes down. Who cares if the guy has been sucking for 2 years straight and is overpaid.
Maybe FI should operate like other ratings where it's possible for it go above 100 in theory, even if it stays at 100. So like in your case, it should be maxed out because of how well the team and Front Office is performing. Then if you have to make a move that makes fans potentially unhappy, like cutting a player... it's stays at 100 and doesn't immediately go to 98. Like a buffer period where as long as the team is still playing well, the fan interest says maxed.
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Wow.... Your fans have already become Alabama fans who can't be bothered to show up for "meaningless" regular season games because they're too bored from watching y'all win all the time.Ted wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:30 amBut I haven't made any transactions since opening day. I did lose a bit of FI in the offseason due to letting a couple guys go, and I gained some in the preseason with extension. But my FI has been dropping DURING the season as I'm winning game after game. This isn't just a simplicity thing related to player transactions. Something is fundamentally wrong in the design if you can lose FI while you dominate the league while being the defending champs.Spiccoli wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:19 amYeah, the program is a bit simplisticTed wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:52 amI love OOTP, but I know I complain about it a lot. I think these things can co-exist. I want this game to be better. Having said that, any system where my fan interest declines during the season the year after I won a championship, am winning at a franchise record pace, have the best record in the league, and multiple players are having career years is not a good one. I don't care if it's working as intended. Then the intent is wrong.
- Release Popular player... goes down. Who cares if the guy has been sucking for 2 years straight and is overpaid.
Maybe FI should operate like other ratings where it's possible for it go above 100 in theory, even if it stays at 100. So like in your case, it should be maxed out because of how well the team and Front Office is performing. Then if you have to make a move that makes fans potentially unhappy, like cutting a player... it's stays at 100 and doesn't immediately go to 98. Like a buffer period where as long as the team is still playing well, the fan interest says maxed.
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Re: Fan Interest 1995 - 2036
Anecdotal, I know, but I am much, much less invested in the Eagles this year after they finally won a Superbowl. The same happened to me with the Phillies in '08 (and, very, very, very stupidly... when Obama won in '08, too). It's like... I devoted SO MUCH energy into trying to will them to this championship and then... it happened - which was amazing and fun and the best thing ever - and then... it was over. This thing I wanted so bad for my entire life finally happened. It was like the perfect climax of a novel... except the author decided not to end it there and just kept going after for no logical reason whatsoever. How do you muster the same fervor you had before the next year? No one is willing to kill for food except during a famine. These were no longer desperate times, so they no longer required desperate measures.
I might be a nihilist, though.
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I quite agreeagrudez wrote: ↑Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:17 amAnecdotal, I know, but I am much, much less invested in the Eagles this year after they finally won a Superbowl. The same happened to me with the Phillies in '08 (and, very, very, very stupidly... when Obama won in '08, too). It's like... I devoted SO MUCH energy into trying to will them to this championship and then... it happened - which was amazing and fun and the best thing ever - and then... it was over. This thing I wanted so bad for my entire life finally happened. It was like the perfect climax of a novel... except the author decided not to end it there and just kept going after for no logical reason whatsoever. How do you muster the same fervor you had before the next year? No one is willing to kill for food except during a famine. These were no longer desperate times, so they no longer required desperate measures.
I might be a nihilist, though.
After suffering through several devastating Bronco Superbowls losses... that first one against Greenbay (20 years ago this year...ouch) was so amazing. I still remember our Superbowl party vividly. We were so subdued and almost depressed because it felt like the Broncos were going to get creamed again... but it was a train wreck we couldn't turn away from. I was almost angry at halftime because the Broncos were giving us hope they might win and I'd been down that road before. But, It was an amazing finish.... and God Bless Terrell Davis
Then the following year... the Broncos just motored through the season on cruise control and we didn't seem to care if they won or lost. Somehow, they were better than the previous year, but nothing matched that first one. The Payton Manning win was fairly meh in comparison.
Though it was fun watching Cam Newton getting run around by Von Miller
I guess it's a long winded way of saying that I understand what you're saying.
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Yes. It would be interesting to study fan interest in real life. I'm sure there's a wave function of some sort that can be developed to predict such things...and I assume most major sports franchises have algorithms they develop to try to understand how their fans are feeling.
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