Slow the Draft down in 2058

[Trebro]

1 minute per pick for the final 10 rounds is insane. I know some people don't care about the draft but some of us do. Please restore that to at least 10 minutes for 2058.

Thank you.

[DaveB]

I agree. I was in the process of selecting a player i missed and got auto drafted lost the player. Give at least 5 minutes for 10-15 then go full steam for the rest.

[Rubaboo]

Yup. Totally agree.

[jiminyhopkins]

Nobody's franchise hinges on some 400th overall pick. I say get it over with.

Then again, my draft record speaks for itself, so there's that.

[DaveB]

Nobody's franchise hinges on some 400th overall pick. I say get it over with.

Then again, my draft record speaks for itself, so there's that.

5 minutes between picks. Auto draft if you don’t want to be active. Simple as that.

[chicoruiz]

Everyone comes at the draft in their own way, and I would never criticize anyone else’s method. And one minute rounds does seem a little harsh.

That said, implying that those of us who make a list don’t “care about the draft” is kind of borderline insulting. No big deal, just sayin’…

[RT60]

I disagree though admit I don't feel that strongly about it. A lot of us give a damn about the draft but either choose to make lists or rely upon an auto-pick toward the end. If you don't like auto-pick, nothing stops you from making a list which should really be done anyway if there is a desire to avoid auto-pick. Is it really reasonable for someone to start their decision process only when the clock starts in these later rounds?

[DaveB]

I disagree though admit I don't feel that strongly about it. A lot of us give a damn about the draft but either choose to make lists or rely upon an auto-pick toward the end. If you don't like auto-pick, nothing stops you from making a list which should really be done anyway if there is a desire to avoid auto-pick. Is it really reasonable for someone to start their decision process only when the clock starts in these later rounds?

I was finishing lunch when I was up. Thought I’d have more time to look. I like to take one last quick look to make sure I didn’t miss someone before making the pick. I had a list, but still missed the player.

[neugey]

The problem with making a list is positional distribution. Worried about putting some catchers on my list and ending up with all of them when I only wanted 1 or 2. Wish Stats+ let us designate the position to draft in each round.

[recte44]

Will do. To be noted I post the schedule and minutes for each round every year when the draft begins. No concerns were raised at that time.

[jiminyhopkins]

In reality, everyone potentially had 32 minutes between their picks.

The time was only shortened by others being prepared with lists or auto. The more teams did that, the less time it took.

Don't see a problem here.

[mragland]

In reality, with the 1 min timer, I was seeing 6-10 min between picks. It wasn't too bad, but I was glued to the keyboard for that hour and a half.

[Dington]

I don’t mind the quick drafts. I’m usually auto after round 3 or so and if I’m available to make my own pick I will, but don’t care too much. Typically, picks after round 5 are likely to be cut when rookie ball begins. I’m fine if we have longer times for picks if others view it differently, but suggest beginning the draft sooner so it’s finished before lower leagues seasons begin.

[RonCo]

Will do. To be noted I post the schedule and minutes for each round every year when the draft begins. No concerns were raised at that time.

Thanks. My brain read over the post and it just didn't register. My apologies for missing it.

[RonCo]

...suggest beginning the draft sooner so it’s finished before lower leagues seasons begin.

The main point here is that making the last five rounds 5 or 10 minutes per pick will add very little time to the final draft.

There are usually about five or six of us left (assuming we all have time to hang at the screen - in reality there's usually about three). By that time we're not taking the whole time, but let's say we do. At five minutes per pick, that's 20 additional minutes per round [(5-1)*5]. Ten rounds is 200 minutes, or basically 3.5 hours.

Per the draft log, the draft finished at 11:09 AM. Add that 3.5 hours and we finish at 2:39 PM.

If we went big and did a whole 10 minutes, that would bloat us by a whole 7 hours and we finish at 6:09 PM.

Oh freaking no.

I understand people view the draft differently. But I cannot for the life of me understand why we get our knickers up about a "cost" of a few hours so that the moderately few of us who want to manage those rounds can have fun rather than feel unhappy about the draft.

In my case, my moderately long list ran out three guys from the end so I wound up with three guys who don't fit the plan. It is very rare that I cut a draft pick, but I'm likely to do it this time because of this. Which, yes, I'll get over. But geez. Why the angst over taking a relatively few minutes?

[Dington]

...suggest beginning the draft sooner so it’s finished before lower leagues seasons begin.

The main point here is that making the last five rounds 5 or 10 minutes per pick will add very little time to the final draft.

There are usually about five or six of us left (assuming we all have time to hang at the screen - in reality there's usually about three). By that time we're not taking the whole time, but let's say we do. At five minutes per pick, that's 20 additional minutes per round [(5-1)*5]. Ten rounds is 200 minutes, or basically 3.5 hours.

Per the draft log, the draft finished at 11:09 AM. Add that 3.5 hours and we finish at 2:39 PM.

If we went big and did a whole 10 minutes, that would bloat us by a whole 7 hours and we finish at 6:09 PM.

Oh freaking no.

I understand people view the draft differently. But I cannot for the life of me understand why we get our knickers up about a "cost" of a few hours so that the moderately few of us who want to manage those rounds can have fun rather than feel unhappy about the draft.

In my case, my moderately long list ran out three guys from the end so I wound up with three guys who don't fit the plan. It is very rare that I cut a draft pick, but I'm likely to do it this time because of this. Which, yes, I'll get over. But geez. Why the angst over taking a relatively few minutes?

No angst from me. I really don’t care. I’m not a ‘my way or the highway’ guy and I feel I’m pretty reasonable. I understand others value the draft more and that’s fine. Only thing I care about is finishing the draft before Short A and Rookie leagues begin. Hate having to make a bunch of cuts and then have to do it again after draftees sign.

[RonCo]

No angst from me. I really don’t care. I’m not a ‘my way or the highway’ guy and I feel I’m pretty reasonable. I understand others value the draft more and that’s fine.

I'm using your post to speak to the overall topic.

Only thing I care about is finishing the draft before Short A and Rookie leagues begin. Hate having to make a bunch of cuts and then have to do it again after draftees sign.

I share the goal. If Matt wants to start earlier, that's good by me.

I don't recall us being too late on any draft, but I suppose it could have happened and since I don't recall the pain...

But Matt is pretty good at this.

I've only been here for two drafts this time. This one, of course, is finished three sims before the lower seasons start...and would have done so whether the timer was 1, 5, or 10 minutes. Last year finished prior to the season starting and in time for at least one pass of negotiations. Obviously, if a kid takes longer to decide, he'll take longer to decide. Hit him with your best shot.

[RonCo]

Since beating a dead horse is my specialty today, I went to the draft log and grabbed the time it took from the start of round 7 to the end of round 10. This was good data becuase all this happened today, with round 7 starting early this AM. Here's the data:

	Minutes/Pick	Started	Ended	Elapsed Time
Round 7	30	2023-12-02 05:30 PST	2023-12-02 06:47 PST	77 minutes *
Round 8	20	2023-12-02 06:47 PST	2023-12-02 07:24 PST	37 minutes @
Round 9	20	2023-12-02 07:24 PST	2023-12-02 08:50 PST	86 minutes ^
Round 10	20	2023-12-02 08:50 PST	2023-12-02 09:36 PST	46 minutes !

* Valencia took their full time alottment, no one else took more than 9 minutes
@ Bikini took 17 minutes, no one else took more than 8
^ Chicago, Jacksonville, and Twin Cities took their full alotted time each, no one else was more than 8
! Twin Cities took their full alotted time, no one else was over 5 minutes

Bottom line: even at 20 minutes a round, we generally take about an hour per round. Cutting this to 10 minutes per round would have resulted in a round taking roughly 30 minutes.

When we went to 1 minute rounds we completed 10 rounds in 92 minutes, or a shade over 9 min/round.

So allowing a 10 minute time limit for a pick would have added a total of about 21 minutes/round. About spot-on what I'd suggested.

[recte44]

Yeah. I got it.

[RonCo]

Yeah. I got it.

To be clear, your first response is fairly made. This is on me/us. You posted. We didn't respond.