IFA Tax Rule

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Re: IFA Tax Rule

Post by aaronweiner » Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:53 pm

pandan wrote:
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Why not shift to a hard cap instead to avoid the penalty issue?
It's not that simple either. The bigger issue raised here is the budget issue, and teams exceeding their budgets to sign IFAs. We could have a cap on it and still have people exceeding their budgets to sign IFAs.
Pardon my ignorance, but couldn't we stop individuals from exceeding our budget by mandating a non-zero budget (ie the blank check) in the off-season? Unsure if you mean budget as in overall team budget or the designated IFA budget.
Overall team budget. As for the other thing, I take that to be a potential setting, which probably does solve the problem quick.

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Re: IFA Tax Rule

Post by pandan » Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:57 pm

Got it -- I'd need to test, but I don't think you can exceed whatever you have as a pre-set for the IFA or draft budget. I usually leave it blank allowing me to spend whatever is needed, but can see without a hard cap how that could cause problems.

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Re: IFA Tax Rule

Post by RonCo » Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:06 pm

I've entered a ticket for the OOTP Devs to take a look at the lack of a budget/resource check. That would certainly help. And may even resolve the issue totally.
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Re: IFA Tax Rule

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Re: IFA Tax Rule

Post by BaseClogger » Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:27 pm

The hard cap could be like $20M or $30M to still maintain some flexibility with regards to team building approach but also prevent a team from spending $100M+.

If people go over their budget because they spend $20M on IFA it’s not nearly as large of a loophole at least. And it can be accomplished via the game easily I think.
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Re: IFA Tax Rule

Post by pandan » Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:32 pm

if you went with a hard cap, ideally it'd be 1) high enough to allow teams to meet player demands and 2) low enough that even the worst teams couldn't go over budget.

Also cap allows us to (potentially) trade cap space which could open up interesting possibilities.

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Re: IFA Tax Rule

Post by DaveB » Sat Aug 12, 2023 12:18 pm

Is there a way to dump the international guys into a pool for a separate international draft?
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Re: IFA Tax Rule

Post by aaronweiner » Sat Aug 12, 2023 12:45 pm

DaveB wrote:
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Is there a way to dump the international guys into a pool for a separate international draft?
We used to do a Rule 6 draft of the (now) GBC a long time ago, but we've since repurposed the GBC to a legit standalone.

There aren't really enough international players for this and it's also not what the purpose of the international players are for: originally the problem was that there was too much cash in the BBA and we were looking to offload some of that.

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Re: IFA Tax Rule

Post by pandan » Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:09 am

Yeah unfortunately OOTP doesn't currently have capacity to run an international draft similar to what was proposed in the last CBA negotiation. You could rig something together to make it run concurrently with the amateur draft, but it'd be janky.
There aren't really enough international players for this and it's also not what the purpose of the international players are for: originally the problem was that there was too much cash in the BBA and we were looking to offload some of that.
Is this an issue today?

If it is, what we could consider is cranking up IFAs and turning off (or lowering?) scouting discoveries, so everyone has to pay for international amateurs.

With a hard cap, IFA cap trading, and IFAs as the sole source of international amateurs (outside of GBC minor league FAs, which I consider different) it could help solve the original issue and encourage teams to spend more.

FWIW I recognize there are myriad ways we could help solve for the issue of the post, so just spitballing here... not married to any particular solution.

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Re: IFA Tax Rule

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