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Post by recte44 » Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:29 pm

Another Hustler career ends, William Brownlee. Damn.

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Post by bigmike13 » Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:45 pm

2-4 sim. I keep telling myself that one day it will get better
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Post by kestu » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:48 pm

2-5 sim - first sub-.500 sim this season. Was waiting for it.

Pitching went downhill - only 2 starters (Corrigan and Noble) had one good game each. Hitting was also poor with only Jennings performing well.

Post All-Star Game all-star break will be good.

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Post by wualumni » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:52 pm

#1 Draft pick SP Danny Lamb makes first start and is out for 12 months. :(
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Post by cheekimonk » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:40 am

wualumni wrote:#1 Draft pick SP Danny Lamb makes first start and is out for 12 months. :(
I was going to suggest that at least he's getting it out of the way early, but at 23...yikes...

My coaches actually suggested I toss my 1st Rnd pick SP Joe Miller straight into my ML bullpen. I'm not even comfortable with him at AAA, though it's hard to ignore his Control is already fully developed.

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Post by cheekimonk » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:55 am

Kraken have gone 7-2, 6-3, and 4-2 last 3 sims. Makes me nervous, though, that I can't pinpoint the reason (that means "random fluctuation" to me with an opposing fluctuation to come). In fact, our most consistent starter in Feldmann went down for the rest of the year in June, and Dedeaux was put on the shelf for 6 weeks (although he could be counted as addition by subtraction.

Lance Pere has been an even more productive add than anticipated when paired with Ruiz and/or Avila, but he was acquired in early-May so can't really point to that deal as the turning point.

Might be on the hunt for another vet (not a one-year rental, though).


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Post by trmmilwwi » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:44 am

0-6 this sim. Schmidt hit .571 on the sim. My other top 2 performers hit .217 and .222. That tell's you something...

On the bright side, Zach Brown pitched a scoreless inning of relief with 1 strikeout in the all star game. Dodson started the game as the FL leadoff hitter and went 1 for 3 with 1 run. I am happy with how the Suns all-stars did in the big game. Now can we finish the season?!
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Post by Al-Hoot » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:36 am

wualumni wrote:#1 Draft pick SP Danny Lamb makes first start and is out for 12 months. :(
Wow... That sucks.

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Post by agrudez » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:00 am

wualumni wrote:#1 Draft pick SP Danny Lamb makes first start and is out for 12 months. :(
In the most statistically important developmental year for MBBA prospects and in a weird placement in the season as well (ie. once he gets back next year in July he may not be fully "back" - sans rust - before the season is over 2 months later). If he can avoid a CEI I hope he can at least rebound in time to salvage a ML career (7/7/6 maybe?) and not be a total bust, but at this point I think its safe to say he'll never sniff that POT, imo.
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Post by Al-Hoot » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:23 am

I am not sure, but I think injured players also "develop." it will be interesting to see what happens with Mr Lamb.

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Post by indiansfan » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:01 pm

3-3, beats the last two losing sims. Now we need to get some of our bats healthy and back in the lineup.
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Post by agrudez » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:13 pm

Was I asleep and didn't realize that Masaki was an all-star? From his player profile:

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05/09/2008 Goes 5-5 against the Washington Bobwhites, with 1 2B, 0 RBI and 2 R.
06/21/2008 Was selected to the 2008 Montgomery Brewster Baseball Association All-Star Game.
06/23/2008 Scores his 1000th career Montgomery Brewster Baseball Association run!
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1) Kengos - 6 (all-star)
2) Yamaguchi - 3.2
3) Eoff - 2.5
4) Harvey - 2.1
5) Masaki - 1.8 (all-star)

I can see him going over Harvey (negative ZR at SS) and Eoff (better overall career), but Yamaguchi definitely deserved it more. And Luna was already my "pity" all-star, so I didn't *need* another. I'm not complaining, though... maybe this will help his trade value since it seems many GMs can't look past the meaningless star ratings to see the elite defensive, .300+ AVG, .700+ OPS, 2.5+ WAR SS underneath - or they just don't understand the inherent trade value of such a commodity.
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Post by kestu » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:17 pm

agrudez wrote:I can see him going over Harvey (negative ZR at SS) and Eoff (better overall career), but Yamaguchi definitely deserved it more. And Luna was already my "pity" all-star, so I didn't *need* another. I'm not complaining, though... maybe this will help his trade value since it seems many GMs can't look past the meaningless star ratings to see the elite defensive, .300+ AVG, .700+ OPS, 2.5+ WAR SS underneath - or they just don't understand the inherent trade value of such a commodity.
I posted an article on this in my team news - I think he was the 4th best shortstop in our division.
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Post by 7teen » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:18 pm

Madison goes 5-1 against Greenville and Vancouver. Gained some ground back but still enter the break below .500.

If we'd stop getting injured we could potentially make a 2nd half run. Roland Carroll and Joe Thomas returned from injury last sim, only to get hurt again.
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Post by recte44 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:45 pm

agrudez wrote:Was I asleep and didn't realize that Masaki was an all-star? From his player profile:

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05/09/2008 Goes 5-5 against the Washington Bobwhites, with 1 2B, 0 RBI and 2 R.
06/21/2008 Was selected to the 2008 Montgomery Brewster Baseball Association All-Star Game.
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1) Kengos - 6 (all-star)
2) Yamaguchi - 3.2
3) Eoff - 2.5
4) Harvey - 2.1
5) Masaki - 1.8 (all-star)

I can see him going over Harvey (negative ZR at SS) and Eoff (better overall career), but Yamaguchi definitely deserved it more. And Luna was already my "pity" all-star, so I didn't *need* another. I'm not complaining, though... maybe this will help his trade value since it seems many GMs can't look past the meaningless star ratings to see the elite defensive, .300+ AVG, .700+ OPS, 2.5+ WAR SS underneath - or they just don't understand the inherent trade value of such a commodity.
Sometimes there's some element of "career" when I pick the last few guys. I thought it was razor thin between all of them.

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Post by agrudez » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:51 pm

recte44 wrote: Sometimes there's some element of "career" when I pick the last few guys. I thought it was razor thin between all of them.
Yeah, I wasn't sure if the OOTP engine took such factors into account, but I figured a human decision-maker would (just like real life all-star voting), that is why I didn't particuliarly question him over Eoff or Harvey (though apparently Chicago does... I guess they were going for a bakers dozen all-stars? :P), but Al-Hoot definitely has some grounds for protest over Yamaguchi's snub.
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Post by agrudez » Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:09 pm

I love looking back on players' careers in this league - great, well documented history here.

If Masaki can play another 6 seasons (until age 40 - not entirely unheard of in this league with the adjusted age-related decline settings sliders... especially considering Kenji has NEVER sustained an injury) maintaining his career average in hits/season (185ish) then he will find himself within 100 hits of overtaking Steve Collins as the MBBA "hit king". Maybe a bit farfetched, but just the fact that it is possible (even if not plausible) is alot of fun. He is still a veritable shoe-in for 3000 hits, though - which by my count would put him in the top 5 of all-time (can someone double check that for me?)... so then the enivitable question comes... is that enough to get into the Hall?

Imo, at that point, he'd be akin to a virtual Jamie Moyer metaphor. A long, consistently sustained career of being good, but not great (only 2 ASGs and 2 GGs at this point), but just being in the top 5-10 of a stat is something that is tough to overlook - even if it is more to do with longevity than explosive talent. Maybe I should file this away as a future player spotlight...
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Post by Al-Hoot » Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:01 pm

I know Yama-kan was All-Star worthy, but I'm content that he's a big part of my team's success.

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Post by 7teen » Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:01 pm

agrudez wrote:I love looking back on players' careers in this league - great, well documented history here.

If Masaki can play another 6 seasons (until age 40 - not entirely unheard of in this league with the adjusted age-related decline settings sliders... especially considering Kenji has NEVER sustained an injury) maintaining his career average in hits/season (185ish) then he will find himself within 100 hits of overtaking Steve Collins as the MBBA "hit king". Maybe a bit farfetched, but just the fact that it is possible (even if not plausible) is alot of fun. He is still a veritable shoe-in for 3000 hits, though - which by my count would put him in the top 5 of all-time (can someone double check that for me?)... so then the enivitable question comes... is that enough to get into the Hall?

Imo, at that point, he'd be akin to a virtual Jamie Moyer metaphor. A long, consistently sustained career of being good, but not great (only 2 ASGs and 2 GGs at this point), but just being in the top 5-10 of a stat is something that is tough to overlook - even if it is more to do with longevity than explosive talent. Maybe I should file this away as a future player spotlight...
Bopper Kengos is taking down Collins' record.
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Post by recte44 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:58 am

agrudez wrote:I love looking back on players' careers in this league - great, well documented history here.

If Masaki can play another 6 seasons (until age 40 - not entirely unheard of in this league with the adjusted age-related decline settings sliders... especially considering Kenji has NEVER sustained an injury) maintaining his career average in hits/season (185ish) then he will find himself within 100 hits of overtaking Steve Collins as the MBBA "hit king". Maybe a bit farfetched, but just the fact that it is possible (even if not plausible) is alot of fun. He is still a veritable shoe-in for 3000 hits, though - which by my count would put him in the top 5 of all-time (can someone double check that for me?)... so then the enivitable question comes... is that enough to get into the Hall?

Imo, at that point, he'd be akin to a virtual Jamie Moyer metaphor. A long, consistently sustained career of being good, but not great (only 2 ASGs and 2 GGs at this point), but just being in the top 5-10 of a stat is something that is tough to overlook - even if it is more to do with longevity than explosive talent. Maybe I should file this away as a future player spotlight...
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