He signed a friendly deal, too. Put him on waivers in case anyone wants to east a year of salary.BaseClogger wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:51 pmHappy to see Pagan get to 600 in Edmonton! Does that get him in HoF consideration?
Sorry about the pitcher guy, Nashville. Thats a wicked injury.
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I think I would vote yes on Pagan, since top 15 all time for homers counts.
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Without doing any research:BaseClogger wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:51 pmHappy to see Pagan get to 600 in Edmonton! Does that get him in HoF consideration?
Sorry about the pitcher guy, Nashville. Thats a wicked injury.
I vote yes
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Throw in a chartered flight for their GM and we'll take you up on that offer.Dington wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:05 pmFree entry to all Long Beach players for the Nashville Invitational Golf Tournament. Must be present to win.
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Best I can offer is kennel storage and two packs of peanuts.Lane wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:43 pmThrow in a chartered flight for their GM and we'll take you up on that offer.Dington wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:05 pmFree entry to all Long Beach players for the Nashville Invitational Golf Tournament. Must be present to win.
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I am over here minding my own business. Why you gotta toss me in this. I am absolutely voting no for Pagan. 40 WAR(meaning he averaged 2 WAR per season). 114 OPS+ HUGE negative ZR in the field. If I am EVER voting for a guy who is a career negative 60 ZR into the hall of fame, he better have been absolutely ridiculous at the plate.Lane wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:42 pmWithout doing any research:BaseClogger wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:51 pmHappy to see Pagan get to 600 in Edmonton! Does that get him in HoF consideration?
Sorry about the pitcher guy, Nashville. Thats a wicked injury.
I vote yes
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Do you ever make exceptions for counting stats? For example, are you supportive of Ichiro into the HoF? Purely based on WAR its a toss-up, but based on counting stats and "fame" he's a slam dunk. I feel like Pagan is similar.niles08 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:33 amI am over here minding my own business. Why you gotta toss me in this. I am absolutely voting no for Pagan. 40 WAR(meaning he averaged 2 WAR per season). 114 OPS+ HUGE negative ZR in the field. If I am EVER voting for a guy who is a career negative 60 ZR into the hall of fame, he better have been absolutely ridiculous at the plate.Lane wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:42 pmWithout doing any research:BaseClogger wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:51 pmHappy to see Pagan get to 600 in Edmonton! Does that get him in HoF consideration?
Sorry about the pitcher guy, Nashville. Thats a wicked injury.
I vote yes
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sorry, just doing the small hall/big hall bitniles08 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:33 amI am over here minding my own business. Why you gotta toss me in this. I am absolutely voting no for Pagan. 40 WAR(meaning he averaged 2 WAR per season). 114 OPS+ HUGE negative ZR in the field. If I am EVER voting for a guy who is a career negative 60 ZR into the hall of fame, he better have been absolutely ridiculous at the plate.Lane wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 7:42 pmWithout doing any research:BaseClogger wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:51 pmHappy to see Pagan get to 600 in Edmonton! Does that get him in HoF consideration?
Sorry about the pitcher guy, Nashville. Thats a wicked injury.
I vote yes
niles08 votes no
anyway pagan is an interesting case.
he shouldn't have spent so much time in CF, but that's not his fault.
regardless, the 114 OPS+ isn't really in the range of what i consider worthy for the HoF so even ignoring defense, he's a no
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I actually do support Ichiro in the HOF because he was the best player to come from Japan at that time. Not to mention he had 60 WAR(which would mean he was 50% better?...also not to mention Ichiro won 10....10.....10 gold gloves? I typically do not make exceptions for "counting stats" unless the stats put them in the 5 of that category(and more than 1 stat)....If Pagan got to 3,000 hits and 600 home runs, I'd likely consider it a bit more.BaseClogger wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 10:26 amDo you ever make exceptions for counting stats? For example, are you supportive of Ichiro into the HoF? Purely based on WAR its a toss-up, but based on counting stats and "fame" he's a slam dunk. I feel like Pagan is similar.niles08 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:33 amI am over here minding my own business. Why you gotta toss me in this. I am absolutely voting no for Pagan. 40 WAR(meaning he averaged 2 WAR per season). 114 OPS+ HUGE negative ZR in the field. If I am EVER voting for a guy who is a career negative 60 ZR into the hall of fame, he better have been absolutely ridiculous at the plate.
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