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2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:29 pm
by blake
Guzman goes #1. I'm a little surprised by that but I can understand the choice. The fact hes a lefty and only 20 helps his case though.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:42 am
by blake
Why are most of the HS players age 20? That means as freshman in High School theyre 16 years old. The #1 pick Guzman for example was a 19 year old HS senior.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:30 am
by recte44
Its an adjustment that needs to be made

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Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:16 am
by jcrmoon42
There was no clear cut #1, unfortunately. Flaws in both Guzman and Murray. I looked through similar players in the league to help me make my decision, and Murray's 7 in movement potential sealed the deal. If that 7 becomes a 14, he is still top notch. If it is a 13, he starts to move into the #2 to #3 starter range, giving up too many homers. The fact that he will be big league ready a lot faster almost swayed me anyway.

Lugo's eye somewhat negates his speed as it will kill his OBP. I also seriously considered shaking it up and picking Devin Clark as a power hitting third baseman, and I may end up regretting that. Still, Guzman's bat has the potential to make him a perennial MVP candidate. That's good enough for a #1 pick. :)

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:59 am
by cyrisnyte
It's was hard to pass on Clark but his defense was what made me pass (still learning the game so that maye haunt me). I realize Lugo has problems at the plate but hopefully his contact can overcome his inability to draw walks. If he can get on base he is a threat to steal every time. I had my fingers crossed.for Murray but did not happen.

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Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:04 am
by aaronweiner
If it's up to me, I take the blue-chip starting pitcher over the blue-chip position player 10 times out of 10. The first overdraft to me is Morris Brown, who's definitely good enough but isn't really a starter.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:04 pm
by TimB
Fair to say they were dancing in the streets of Chicago at picking second. We knew we'd get Murray or Clark. I was delighted to see Murray still there, our pitching sucks bigtime and he is a potential Ace. I also think after him the talent level at pitcher drops off while there are a fair few talented hitters and we have 2nd pick in the supplemental. I think Brown going so high is indicative of the drop off. There were some very good hitters left and his two pitches scared me. I love Hawaii's pick too, Ramos was very high on our list.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:17 pm
by Al-Hoot
Ramos, 1. lefty, 2.college, has no speed or power, but I picked him over Garland, righty, who has average contact and is just out of high school.

Plus Ramos works super hard, is a great leader, and apparently doesn't care overly much about money.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:44 pm
by robster49
I thought there were 3 top players in Guzman, Murray, and Clark and then several guys competing for the 4th spot. I was really happy to get Clark 4th overall even with average defense at third. Murray was who I wanted, really need pitching help and there's quite a dropoff after him in terms of starters.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 4:05 pm
by cheekimonk
Yep...Brown would be a reach in any other year, but he honestly was the 2nd best pick for me in that spot. The BEST pick in that spot was Jose Cedeno but I have 3 closers and 1 reliever in my minor league system with no true SP prospects to be seen. Brown's a lefty with a "Very High" work ethic. Most years it's a no-no, but I really had tunnel vision for pitching with not having a 2nd round pick and having 2 starters over the age of 33 pitching for me this season.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:24 pm
by robster49
bateague wrote:Yep...Brown would be a reach in any other year, but he honestly was the 2nd best pick for me in that spot. The BEST pick in that spot was Jose Cedeno but I have 3 closers and 1 reliever in my minor league system with no true SP prospects to be seen. Brown's a lefty with a "Very High" work ethic. Most years it's a no-no, but I really had tunnel vision for pitching with not having a 2nd round pick and having 2 starters over the age of 33 pitching for me this season.
I actually was considering Brown at #4 and was 50/50 on taking him had I not gotten Clark.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:31 pm
by Al-Hoot
I would have taken Clark had he been available at 6th overall.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:04 pm
by blake
Jennings is an interesting pick. It was either Jennings or Harrington for me. Jennings should really mash right handers. He would have been perfect for my park.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:13 pm
by JohnC
blake wrote:Jennings is an interesting pick. It was either Jennings or Harrington for me. Jennings should really mash right handers. He would have been perfect for my park.
I liked Jennings as well for the fact that he is somewhat developed already, and he is a left handed hitter.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:19 pm
by nverhoev
Stop picking all the good guys! :doh:

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:58 pm
by aaronweiner
I was agonizing over my decision to draft Garcia up until the last couple minutes, though I figured it wasn't a pick that was likely to fail. Besides, I had no shortstop prospects in my organization, and now I have one.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 8:59 pm
by recte44
Slim pickings here towards the end of the first round. Talent correction is certainly happening the way we want it to.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:10 pm
by jiminyhopkins
recte44 wrote:Slim pickings here towards the end of the first round. Talent correction is certainly happening the way we want it to.
Ugh, so the draft is this bad on purpose? Wow. :shrug:

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:17 pm
by recte44
The last couple of drafts have been pretty accurate. This one is fairly below average....for sure.

Re: 2002 Draft Discussion

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:46 pm
by blake
jiminyhopkins wrote:
Ugh, so the draft is this bad on purpose? Wow. :shrug:
Yeah it can't be a deep draft every year. I've seen commissioners jack up the draft every year if it's a weak draft pool. It makes things worse eventually. Having too much talent is just as bad as not having enough.