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2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by recte44 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:08 pm

Awards voting open- feel free to vote for both BBA and UMEBA

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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by indiansfan » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:48 pm

So for JL Nebraska do I vote for my guy Gilliam that led the league in ERA, WHIP, rWar, QS, etc., or Mtume with 29 wins. For Egan do I vote for my guy Ottoboni #1 in WHIP, #1 in K/BB by a huge margin, #2 in saves and ERA or Mtume with 29 wins or Huber? Could Mtume win both?
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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by bschr682 » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:01 pm

Mtume won't win either.
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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by Lane » Sun Mar 01, 2020 8:08 pm

And shouldn't, if you believe at all in statistics beyond the Win
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Post by Fat Nige » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:02 pm

Is there a “most pitchers under 10 wins” category?

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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by jleddy » Sun Mar 01, 2020 9:40 pm

Mtume, oddly enough, wasn’t even on the Egan ballot. I would have given him a 5th place vote just for posterity.

I assume this is due to him being a follower for most of the season?
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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by aaronweiner » Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:24 am

After all that, no Daniel Pepper on the Sawyer Silk.

But he's on the Gillstrom. Vote him second at least.

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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by Lane » Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:42 am

aaronweiner wrote:
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After all that, no Daniel Pepper on the Sawyer Silk.

But he's on the Gillstrom. Vote him second at least.
Did my JL voting last night. I really, really considered voting him first, but decided I couldn't take the award away from a guy who played a full season with 8+ WAR for a guy that played 75 games. Did vote him #2 though. What a performance.
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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by Lane » Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:42 am

I really want to write about Huber... Gonna try and find the time today.
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Post by usnspecialist » Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:47 am

yep #2 as well for me with similar thinking as Lane.
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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by usnspecialist » Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:54 am

I remembered this thread when thinking of pepper, but completely forgot about the very first reply to it...
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Only the Gillstrom. The other two awards are so unlikely to be won based on half a season that it's unreasonable; their half season would have to be entirely epic.

But it's entirely possible that the best rookie only played half a season.
Not saying what pepper did isn't entirely epic, but the irony is strong with this one.
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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by aaronweiner » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:37 am

usnspecialist wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:54 am
I remembered this thread when thinking of pepper, but completely forgot about the very first reply to it...
aaronweiner wrote:
Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:48 am
Only the Gillstrom. The other two awards are so unlikely to be won based on half a season that it's unreasonable; their half season would have to be entirely epic.

But it's entirely possible that the best rookie only played half a season.
Not saying what pepper did isn't entirely epic, but the irony is strong with this one.
I dunno. I think 5.7 WAR, a 1.200 OPS and a .418 batting average in half a season is entirely epic. That's the point.

As an example, I would have never said to do that for Julio Barajas' 2039 season. And didn't. And that one was awfully great in 79 games.

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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by aaronweiner » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:43 am

To put this another way: if you were voting blind chalk on the JL Sawyer Silk (and it's a good time of year to discuss chalk), Pepper finished eighth in the JL in WAR and would have probably fallen off your ballot but you'd have noticed him near the top.

But you might have also paused for a moment to see that his numbers were insane if you weren't voting blind chalk.

I would have voted Pepper third, would have been completely okay with fifth, and would have been okay if he just got a few fifth place votes for being on the list. But to not be on there at all with the eighth best WAR in the JL? That's absurd.

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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by aaronweiner » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:51 am

Lane wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:42 am
aaronweiner wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 7:24 am
After all that, no Daniel Pepper on the Sawyer Silk.

But he's on the Gillstrom. Vote him second at least.
Did my JL voting last night. I really, really considered voting him first, but decided I couldn't take the award away from a guy who played a full season with 8+ WAR for a guy that played 75 games. Did vote him #2 though. What a performance.
That is what it took for me to vote him out too. Aldo's one of the best rookies in BBA history, maybe the best position player rookie ever.

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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by Lane » Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:08 am

aaronweiner wrote:
Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:43 am
To put this another way: if you were voting blind chalk on the JL Sawyer Silk (and it's a good time of year to discuss chalk), Pepper finished eighth in the JL in WAR and would have probably fallen off your ballot but you'd have noticed him near the top.

But you might have also paused for a moment to see that his numbers were insane if you weren't voting blind chalk.

I would have voted Pepper third, would have been completely okay with fifth, and would have been okay if he just got a few fifth place votes for being on the list. But to not be on there at all with the eighth best WAR in the JL? That's absurd.
Does the Silk ballot only include qualified batters?
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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by Lane » Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:10 am

Looks like it might... Lowest PA on the ballot is 506
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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by Spiccoli » Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:17 am

That 2038 draft class...

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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by ae37jr » Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:45 am

Not only is this the offensive era, it's also the superstar era. The difference between the top 10% of players and the rest of the league is greater then I've ever seen it here. Kinda sucks for the way I build my team(using all 27 players). But that's life.
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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by 7teen » Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:10 am

ae37jr wrote:
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Not only is this the offensive era, it's also the superstar era. The difference between the top 10% of players and the rest of the league is greater then I've ever seen it here. Kinda sucks for the way I build my team(using all 27 players). But that's life.
Also tough as an expansion team.... Trying to eye when the window of these guys will end and try and build for that. With the draft classes before expansion being so loaded, I just have to sit here and patiently wait.

Nice to see the guys I drafted with Madison having some good runs now though!!
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Re: 2041, Award Voting Chatter

Post by recte44 » Mon Mar 02, 2020 8:07 pm

How Gipper Kengos isn't a unanimous winner for FL Zimmer for Left Field is beyond me. Are you all looking at the same numbers? ZERO ERRORS!

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