RonCo wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:34 am
Ted's angst here is that Gracia and Ramos are not top 20 players, or whatever, and are asking for more than $20M. Which can be a fair argument. But Ramos is 27 and a Nebraska award winner, and Gracia (33) just went 21-7 and led the Brewster in ERA. Is there anything unusual about the idea that they would both want to go to the open market to find out what they are worth? That's what this algorithm is saying to the GM: "blow me away, or you can fight for me on the open market."
Okay, so I did misquote you on this. Sorry.
However you are possibly wrong. You do NOT know this is what the algorithm is saying. This is what you've chosen to interpret it as saying. Given that there is a player response that actually says "I want to go to FA" I think you are probably wrong in this assertion.
The reason I believe you are wrong is because they often ask for the same or even more in FA. A player who wanted to start a bidding way wouldn't price everyone out right at the start. (Unless you have Craig Kimbrel's agent).
As for Nigel being burnt out on this boring discourse,
I'd suggest that if you are tired or the argument, stop reading. I don't mean that abrasively. I mean that Ron will never let anyone post anything that disagrees with his interpretation of how the game works or should work. And will circle back over every statement you make, right or wrong, providing laundry lists of counter arguments that may or may not stay with the point at hand.
Notice how we are no longer talking about how the game is more random in AAV demands than is realistic and that I don't like that much randomness and are back to whether the economy makes sense, because that's what Ron wants to talk about and he will always drive the narrative where he wants it to go.
So my suggestion is that if you get worn out by these arguments, don't read them, because Ron won't stop.
I suppose this is hypocritical, because I don't stop either. The difference in my mind? THIS IS MY FUCKING THREAD. I don't go to other people threads and dominate the conversation every single fucking time. (I have done this. Sorry about Tony Franco, Kevin. Know I know how annoying I can be.) Good to know I can't have my own thoughts in my own thread. Just like I can't write a guide on how I do tings without having my assertions challenged or refuted in my own fucking guide pieces.
Or how I can't try to drum up interest in a player I'd like to trade without Ron ricking apart my valuation of thee player and doing his best to convince everyone in the league that I should give Bryan Robson away or pay someone to take him. you know. A member of the GB actively trying to influence the value of a player on a trade block. That's cool.
If it doesn't agree with how Ron thinks folks, you can't talk about it. Not without starting a war of words in which he always has to have the last word. Or last 1000 words.
Fuck it. I'll just say it. This is a big part of my frustration. And a big part of why I'm leaving. Now, I am a whiny know it all by nature. I make no assertions that I cannot be obnoxious and abrasive. I sometimes have to be right. I get rude. I apologize for all of this.
But this shit is intolerable. I'm truly burnt out with OOTP, and don't like the game as anymore. I'll miss you all, but all I enjoy is the analysis at this point. And since I can't have my own opinions about analysis without having to constantly defend them from attack, there's not much left for me.. I will not miss how this has become the Ron Collins Baseball Association.