2038, BBA Draft Chatter

[crobillard]

I really like the Juan Rodriguez pick just after me. I would have went for him over Uribe, but he was impossible to sign :\

[agrudez]

I would have went for him over Uribe, but he was impossible to sign :\

Without game access at work, these rounds go too quick for me to prepare properly at home so I'm flying by the seat of my pants on signability.

[aaronweiner]

That's two rounds in a row you took the other guy I had in my top two, Aaron. Great minds or something like that ...

I predicted you would do that.

See what I did there?

[RonCo]

Brandon Howeth-Arneson, Jr.

I can barely say his name in one breath, but I've been fixated on him for the past two hours.

[RonCo]

I have images of a left-handed Niccolo Machiavelli running through my head.

[crobillard]

I have images of a left-handed Niccolo Machiavelli running through my head.

Yeah he's really good. I wanted him, but I thought I could wait longer than I could. Good job.

[Ted]

So the top few guys on my list for rd 5 are pitchers. I have drafted four pitchers so far. At what point do I say "screw it" and try to go 20 for 20?

[agrudez]

So the top few guys on my list for rd 5 are pitchers. I have drafted four pitchers so far. At what point do I say "screw it" and try to go 20 for 20?

I've always assumed that's what you've been trying to do for years.

[GoldenOne]

So the top few guys on my list for rd 5 are pitchers. I have drafted four pitchers so far. At what point do I say "screw it" and try to go 20 for 20?

What could go wrong?

[Ted]

There are 9 Jose Rodriguez's and 9 Juan Rodriguez's in this draft. Alan nailed it. The reason this draft is as deep as three draft classes is because it IS three (or more) draft classes.

There are 90 or so Rodriguez's in total. You could almost fill out an entire organization with the Rodriguez's in this draft.

[bcslouck]

There are 9 Jose Rodriguez's and 9 Juan Rodriguez's in this draft. Alan nailed it. The reason this draft is as deep as three draft classes is because it IS three draft classes.

There are 90 or so Rodriguez's in total. You could almost fill out an entire organization with the Rodriguez's in this draft.

You think the added UMEBA has to do with it? I mean, we just went through the cross waivers issues. It seems the game thinks the UMEBA think it's in the BBA. So it probably created players to make up for it. I read Alan mentioning the amount but can't remember if he brought up this as a possible reason.

[aaronweiner]

There are 9 Jose Rodriguez's and 9 Juan Rodriguez's in this draft. Alan nailed it. The reason this draft is as deep as three draft classes is because it IS three draft classes.

There are 90 or so Rodriguez's in total. You could almost fill out an entire organization with the Rodriguez's in this draft.

That would be fun.

[Ted]

There are 9 Jose Rodriguez's and 9 Juan Rodriguez's in this draft. Alan nailed it. The reason this draft is as deep as three draft classes is because it IS three draft classes.

There are 90 or so Rodriguez's in total. You could almost fill out an entire organization with the Rodriguez's in this draft.

That would be fun.

We need to expand the UMEBA. The Riyadh Rodriguez's.

[Ted]

There are 9 Jose Rodriguez's and 9 Juan Rodriguez's in this draft. Alan nailed it. The reason this draft is as deep as three draft classes is because it IS three draft classes.

There are 90 or so Rodriguez's in total. You could almost fill out an entire organization with the Rodriguez's in this draft.

You think the added UMEBA has to do with it? I mean, we just went through the cross waivers issues. It seems the game thinks the UMEBA think it's in the BBA. So it probably created players to make up for it. I read Alan mentioning the amount but can't remember if he brought up this as a possible reason.

I'm not sure. Recte and Ron are better at answering this, but I'm a know it all so I'll take a crack at it anyway. I think the answer to this is no. I believe the feeder classes are made a couple seasons prior to the draft. So this group has been around for awhile now. But maybe a bunch of players got added to it? Dunno. I hope the GB people let us know when they figure it out because it is curious.

[bcslouck]

I'm not sure. Recte and Ron are better at answering this, but I'm a know it all so I'll take a crack at it anyway. I think the answer to this is no. I believe the feeder classes are made a couple seasons prior to the draft. So this group has been around for awhile now. But maybe a bunch of players got added to it? Dunno. I hope the GB people let us know when they figure it out because it is curious.

That's what I'm getting at. Even though we have feeders, I think the game will still create players. It's probably not hard to figure out in game. Just filter what players haven't played a game or have played under a season worth (like 50) and see when they were created. If that isn't it, then the settings probably need to be checked for how many rounds are created. Those are the only things I can think could be the issue. But knowing OOTP, it's probably something else.

[Ted]

What is a normal class size anyway? This one is 6200+, which seems a tad much. I think the game still auto picks a few rounds for us after rd 20 (rd21-25) and if that's the case we can still only draft around 10% of the players in this class.

[Ted]

More fun with numbers. There are more players in this draft class than their are currently in organized BBA baseball. (30 players x 6 levels x 30 teams = 5400 players). When you add in the UMEBA teams, you could still make every player on a team in both leagues vanish and fill out every roster with this draft class. Where's Thanos when you need him?

[bcslouck]

What is a normal class size anyway? This one is 6200+, which seems a tad much. I think the game still auto picks a few rounds for us after rd 20 (rd21-25) and if that's the case we can still only draft around 10% of the players in this class.

My other league just had a draft with 2884 players. 24 teams and 20 rounds. So less than half. Still a lot, but you have to figure a percentage of that group is HS players who are impossible or just aren't good enough yet and go on to college. I would think ideally for 20 rounds, you want 1000-1500 players. That's probably still a little high but given the draft preferences of each GM, it may be good to have a little diversity.

[Ted]

What is a normal class size anyway? This one is 6200+, which seems a tad much. I think the game still auto picks a few rounds for us after rd 20 (rd21-25) and if that's the case we can still only draft around 10% of the players in this class.

My other league just had a draft with 2884 players. 24 teams and 20 rounds. So less than half. Still a lot, but you have to figure a percentage of that group is HS players who are impossible or just aren't good enough yet and go on to college. I would think ideally for 20 rounds, you want 1000-1500 players. That's probably still a little high but given the draft preferences of each GM, it may be good to have a little diversity.

The 1000-1500 number is kind of where I was, too. The other question is how do all those leftover players affect development and the playable talent pool overall. If you keep having bigger drafts, closer to 2000 than 1000, do you just build up more and more garbage? Does that factor into development? Maybe that's the reason for ratings creep. More players with the same percentage of 80 grade guys means a more talented big leagues, and the process compounds itself with each over sized draft.

So having smaller drafts for a while and shrinking the active player pool can reverse the process. That really wouldn't be fun. Does the game have a "keep this many active players" algorithm and just auto-retire a portion of these guys and knock out more older players to keep a stable number? Or does the FA pool just balloon forever?

[bcslouck]

Following the math of the OOTP manual, we should have 93 feeder teams.

Next, decide on the number of feeder teams you will need to populate this draft. Each feeder team produces 6 to 9 players for the draft per year. Taking the number of players needed for the draft and dividing by 6 gives you the minimum number of feeders you need. The guideline here is:

# of feeder teams needed = (number of teams in parent league x number of draft rounds)/6

So (28*20)/6 = 93.33 and we round down to 93. We have 120 if I'm getting all the feeders. Doesn't seem like that would be the issue considering we've had the same amount (I assume) for awhile now. At max, the feeders are putting 243 viable players more than needed. Assuming that the feeders are 25 team rosters, 9 players is 36%. If I'm doing my math right, that's 675 added total players. So the (28*20)+675 puts us at 1235 players. That should be perfect. So I'd say the current feeder setup is correct. Unless these teams have 50 players or more. I did not check that.