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Re: POLL: Luxury Tax

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:29 am
by usnspecialist
handaspencer wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:26 am
I want to understand how this cap works better. So if I understand it the actual "cap" is payroll only? It don't count staff expenses, draft expenses, international FA, or misc player expenses? So for example I could have 110 mill in payroll but have 140 in total expenses and still be ok with the cap?
for your example yes. The cap number is determined by the payroll number on the league financial page (see link below).

http://montybrewster.net/BBA/HTML/news/ ... eport.html

Re: POLL: Luxury Tax

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:46 am
by handaspencer
usnspecialist wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:29 am
handaspencer wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:26 am
I want to understand how this cap works better. So if I understand it the actual "cap" is payroll only? It don't count staff expenses, draft expenses, international FA, or misc player expenses? So for example I could have 110 mill in payroll but have 140 in total expenses and still be ok with the cap?
for your example yes. The cap number is determined by the payroll number on the league financial page (see link below).

http://montybrewster.net/BBA/HTML/news/ ... eport.html

So my current payroll is 96 mill but my total expenses is currently 107 mill at the moment and I have a team budget of 128.

So I could release player x who makes 20 mill per season to put in misc expenses. I could then sign another player making 20 mill to bring my payroll back to 96 mill but it would increase my total expenses to 127 mill. But since I have an actual budget of 128 I would be ok because I stayed under the 110 player cap?

Re: POLL: Luxury Tax

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:54 am
by niles08
That is my understanding.

Re: POLL: Luxury Tax

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:08 am
by Fat Nige
I'm not sold on this idea at all, taking away the cap would allow the rich teams to spend what they like and allow the gap to get bigger and bigger. Sure they'd be giving the bottom teams 2-3 million but to be honest what use would that be really? It might pay for maybe a 1 or 2 WAR player? Meanwhile the rich have just splashed an extra 40 million, now they're not capped, on two or three 4 to 5 WAR players.

And as to more comp picks :doh: there's far too many extra picks thrown in already in my opinion. But the biggest downside for me is what happens to the middle BBA teams like Louisville? Too rich to pick up any luxury tax, too poor to receive any with teams all around them busy spending this extra windfall and less chance of any help from the draft as all the teams below them snapping up the talent with all these extra picks. You're looking to create a class of teams that bounce between middle mediocrity and the bottom end as the bottom teams pass them

Re: POLL: Luxury Tax

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:21 am
by niles08
I think it's poor thinking to say any team is "stuck at the bottom" because of finances. I think any team could realistically make their way to the top if there willing to spend some money and win some games. It's unbelievable to me that Hawaii's revenue is so damn low but has shown in the past it can be much higher even when they don't field a winning team.

Re: POLL: Luxury Tax

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:55 pm
by RonCo
handaspencer wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:46 am
usnspecialist wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:29 am
handaspencer wrote:
Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:26 am
I want to understand how this cap works better. So if I understand it the actual "cap" is payroll only? It don't count staff expenses, draft expenses, international FA, or misc player expenses? So for example I could have 110 mill in payroll but have 140 in total expenses and still be ok with the cap?
for your example yes. The cap number is determined by the payroll number on the league financial page (see link below).

http://montybrewster.net/BBA/HTML/news/ ... eport.html

So my current payroll is 96 mill but my total expenses is currently 107 mill at the moment and I have a team budget of 128.

So I could release player x who makes 20 mill per season to put in misc expenses. I could then sign another player making 20 mill to bring my payroll back to 96 mill but it would increase my total expenses to 127 mill. But since I have an actual budget of 128 I would be ok because I stayed under the 110 player cap?
Just realize you have to pay for staff and draft picks and any IFA out of your budget/cash, too.

Re: POLL: Luxury Tax

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:53 am
by udlb58
We already have comp picks and I don't feel the financial situation of the league warrants luxury tax. Instituting a luxury tax system and removing the salary cap just lets the rich get richer, and I don't think the bottom teams now are at enough of a disadvantage that a luxury tax system with a salary cap would help those GMs (a dozen years ago, the three worst teams financially were YS, GRE/JAX, and TUC/LB...all 3 are thriving now).

I wouldn't mind a tweak to comp picks though. Maybe something along the lines of what the NFL does. For us, it could be a simple as Type A FA lost (minus) Type A FA signed (equals) Type A comp picks gained; and Type B lost (minus) Type A (plus) Type B FA gained (equals) Type B comp picks gained.