Need advice on RP Conv

[crobillard]

Okay, so I'm preparing for the offseason and as the season went on I've been noting several adjustments I would like to make. I've never done a RP conversion though and I'm so freaked out by it haha. I just never thought I had a good candidate for it. I'm thinking about Jorge Huerta. First, is he eligible?

Then, the way I read this reward, his stamina will probably end up a 2 after his internal number is divided by three. I might get a three stamina, but I doubt it. He'll lose his 1 rated changeup. Whatever his internal number is on that change up will be divided by three twice and that number will be added to the remaining pitches, so if there's a pitch close to a bump this is great, but otherwise that's not changing much. Then, his velocity bumps two levels from 96-98 to 98-100. Do I have this right? Is there something I'm not seeing that would suggest that he is a poor candidate?

Thanks for the help. I've been sitting on this all season lol.

[Ted]

I'm not sure I'd bother. I'll try to do a test case tomorrow. The points from the dropped change will not help at all, so you're talking about a 2 mph increase, which probably by itself isn't enough to change his stuff significantly. And you'd be going from a reliever who can throw 120 innings easy to one who can throw 60 with the stamina loss. But I'll see what I get.

[usnspecialist]

ya in general I think dropping the 1 change isn't useful but who knows maybe I'm wrong.

[crobillard]

I'm not sure I'd bother. I'll try to do a test case tomorrow. The points from the dropped change will not help at all, so you're talking about a 2 mph increase, which probably by itself isn't enough to change his stuff significantly. And you'd be going from a reliever who can throw 120 innings easy to one who can throw 60 with the stamina loss. But I'll see what I get.

thanks, yeah I was thinking dropping the change would help him be more effective, but maybe it's just better to keep it and have him in more innings.

[aaronweiner]

RP conversions are better for pitchers who are really lagging in velocity, but they help every pitcher whom you want to make a reliever.

I'd wait just in case his changeup becomes a viable pitch.

[crobillard]

RP conversions are better for pitchers who are really lagging in velocity, but they help every pitcher whom you want to make a reliever.

I'd wait just in case his changeup becomes a viable pitch.

Good point. Do you think it might be a better idea to increase his intangibles instead? hoping that that will help him bump, but losing the option to RP conv for the future. It sounds like the consensus from this thread is that the conv would help but probably not as much as I think it would.

[agrudez]

If you RP converted Huerta you'd essentially be making him a 100+ IP reliever into a 50 IP reliever with pretty much exactly the same effectiveness. So, no, I would not convert him.

[crobillard]

If you RP converted Huerta you'd essentially be making him a 100+ IP reliever into a 50 IP reliever with pretty much exactly the same effectiveness. So, no, I would not convert him.

Excellent. Thanks! I wasn't sure if dropping the change and increasing the velocity was worth it. It seems like it definitely is not. I'm glad I asked all of you.

[agrudez]

Some people swear by dropping really poor pitches (for both relievers and starters). I know in another league they were contemplating putting in a PP reward for just dropping a pitch (without it improving other pitches) for exactly the situation of a RP with 10/9/1 pitches. Personally, I've never noticed a difference. Is Pedro Castillo and his 2.41 FIP suffering because of his '1' changeup? Or Marquez? Or Grady? Those are probably 3 of the top 5 or so RP WARs this season all with '1' 3rd pitches.

[Ted]

Sorry, took me a bit to get to this, but the worst version I can make of him after conversion becomes 10/7/6 and has 3 stamina. Still has 10 FB and 9 curve. So the real question is whether that one point of stuff worth losing a good number of innings? Before relative ratings, it might not have been. With them, that may actually be a notable increase. It depends on how close to 10 he was before. Also, these are less reliable now that we're using relative ratings, as my test league doesn't match the Brewster perfectly. FWIW, he's 10/7/6 without relative ratings in my test league and 11/7/6 after the conversion.

[crobillard]

Sorry, took me a bit to get to this, but the worst version I can make of him after conversion becomes 10/7/6 and has 3 stamina. Still has 10 FB and 9 curve. So the real question is whether that one point of stuff worth losing a good number of innings? Before relative ratings, it might not have been. With them, that may actually be a notable increase. It depends on how close to 10 he was before. Also, these are less reliable now that we're using relative ratings, as my test league doesn't match the Brewster perfectly. FWIW, he's 10/7/6 without relative ratings in my test league and 11/7/6 after the conversion.

Interesting. Thanks for looking into it for me. I decided not to move forward with the RP conversion as I didn't think it would make him significantly more dominant based on everything we've discussed. This is good information though.