BBA Pitcher Ratings

[RonCo]

This counts all the players who are in the majors right this minute, I think. Thought it might be interesting to folks...

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[usnspecialist]

Pretty much confirms that 6 is the "new normal" as far as movement goes. Interesting that 9 is right there with 8 as far as stuff goes.

[agrudez]

8/6/7 is an 'average' pitcher? I feel like a RH RP with that line would get murdered.

[Ted]

Pretty much what I expected. I wish it were a more even distribution. Ron, are these a mix of SP and RP. I assume so. I would be interesting to see this broken down by those categories separately. I don't know how hard that is to do. As per Kyle's remark, most of your 8/6/7 righty RP's aren't going to be anything more than filler.

[RonCo]

I'll try to do some other cuts on SP/RP and handedness...but here's a quick bit of data: 23 pitchers in the data set were rated 8/6/7.

- Twenty of those were RHP, 3 LHP.
- Combined they pitched 1986 innings, and created a 4.36 ERA
- They combined for 20.1 WAR, though 5 of those WAR were Hao Kun, LAS LHP SP

Given that League average ERA is 4.4, that's about right.

[RonCo]

I'll try to do some other cuts on SP/RP and handedness...but here's a quick bit of data: 23 pitchers in the data set were rated 8/6/7.

- Twenty of those were RHP, 3 LHP.
- Combined they pitched 1986 innings, and created a 4.36 ERA
- They combined for 20.1 WAR, though 5 of those WAR were Hao Kun, LAS LHP SP

Given that League average ERA is 4.4, that's about right.

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352 relievers

Average Stuff = 9.16
Average Movement = 6.34
Average Control = 6.85

211 starters

Average Stuff = 8.42
Average Movement = 6.58
Average Control = 7.44

[RonCo]

In other words, starters are better pitchers on average, except that relievers have better stuff.

[RonCo]

Left-handed Pitchers:
Average Starter: Stuff = 7.86, Movement = 6.05, Control = 6.80
Average Reliever: Stuff = 8.68, Movement = 5.79, Control = 6.02


Right-handed Pitchers:
Average Starter: Stuff = 7.94, Movement = 6.08, Control = 6.99
Average Reliever: Stuff = 8.66, Movement = 5.86, Control = 6.42

[Ted]

As always, Ron, you area gold mine of stats. The number crunching nerd in me is delighted.

[ae37jr]

I'm amazed that stuff is that low. I only have 2 pitchers on my 40 with stuff lower then 9. Generally when I see a pitcher below 8 I won't even consider them. Maybe my own scope got out of whack by the way I value players.

[7teen]

I'm pretty sure that most of the guys with a MO of 4 or lower are all in Madison.

[crobillard]

This is so cool. Thanks for sharing. It really helps me understand the league a lot better. I just thought Edmonton was missing any high movement pitchers then I was just starting to learn how depleted the league is in the area.

[Lane]

This is so cool. Thanks for sharing. It really helps me understand the league a lot better. I just thought Edmonton was missing any high movement pitchers then I was just starting to learn how depleted the league is in the area.

OOTP made a change from 18 to 19 that knocked down pretty much all pitchers MOV

[crobillard]

This is so cool. Thanks for sharing. It really helps me understand the league a lot better. I just thought Edmonton was missing any high movement pitchers then I was just starting to learn how depleted the league is in the area.

OOTP made a change from 18 to 19 that knocked down pretty much all pitchers MOV

Hmm interesting...the ratings are expected to normalize at some point probably several seasons from now though?

[Lane]

This is so cool. Thanks for sharing. It really helps me understand the league a lot better. I just thought Edmonton was missing any high movement pitchers then I was just starting to learn how depleted the league is in the area.

OOTP made a change from 18 to 19 that knocked down pretty much all pitchers MOV

Hmm interesting...the ratings are expected to normalize at some point probably several seasons from now though?

I wouldn't think so. I believe they changed how MOV was calculated/displayed so I think this is the new normal. Ron may know better though.

[RonCo]

Ratings will drift, but how they drift/normalize is hard to predict. That's part of the challenge of being in an online league that shifts versions year-over-year. I try to post ratings compilations every season or two just to give folks a chance to think about it some.