2056 New Roster Requirement

[BaseClogger]

It’s ok to have some 20 pitchers. They’re still much more effective than position players or exhausted pitchers that are the result of a five-man staff.

[aaronweiner]

It’s ok to have some 20 pitchers. They’re still much more effective than position players or exhausted pitchers that are the result of a five-man staff.

I'm not saying that either idea is bad in a vacuum. But they don't work TOGETHER - they're in opposition. And what's fun about going out and trying to find the best terrible pitcher in a specific age range to fill my roster?

I mean, my dog could be a pitcher, too, and he's under 26, but he'd balk a lot.

[Dington]

To put this another way, I just looked at the free agent list.

Sorted by <27 and 30 overall or higher.

Here is the entire list of players that fits: Isikeli Alohalani, Khayyat bin Nasir al Din, and Henry Gibb.

That's three pitchers who fit into the AA requirements who might be worthy of AA.

There are 28 pitchers in free agency under the age of 21. So there's enough to fill out even rookie ball squads. They're not gonna be good, but they're arms. In almost all cases they will be better than pitching position players. Once short A and Rookie leagues start you'll see even more players when teams make roster cuts. You've also got at an IC to draw pitchers from.

[aaronweiner]

To put this another way, I just looked at the free agent list.

Sorted by <27 and 30 overall or higher.

Here is the entire list of players that fits: Isikeli Alohalani, Khayyat bin Nasir al Din, and Henry Gibb.

That's three pitchers who fit into the AA requirements who might be worthy of AA.

There are 28 pitchers in free agency under the age of 21. So there's enough to fill out even rookie ball squads. They're not gonna be good, but they're arms. In almost all cases they will be better than pitching position players. Once short A and Rookie leagues start you'll see even more players when teams make roster cuts. You've also got at an IC to draw pitchers from.

Less interested in filling rookie ball squads, more interested in AA.

But I see your point - it just doesn't match mine.

[Dington]

To put this another way, I just looked at the free agent list.

Sorted by <27 and 30 overall or higher.

Here is the entire list of players that fits: Isikeli Alohalani, Khayyat bin Nasir al Din, and Henry Gibb.

That's three pitchers who fit into the AA requirements who might be worthy of AA.

There are 28 pitchers in free agency under the age of 21. So there's enough to fill out even rookie ball squads. They're not gonna be good, but they're arms. In almost all cases they will be better than pitching position players. Once short A and Rookie leagues start you'll see even more players when teams make roster cuts. You've also got at an IC to draw pitchers from.

Less interested in filling rookie ball squads, more interested in AA.

But I see your point - it just doesn't match mine.

It's hard to find an ideal solution, but I think this fixes the larger issue of fielding a competitive team. I think filling out rookie ball is more important than finding non-prospect 27 year-olds in AA. Teams should be building farm systems that can hold 23-25 year olds in AA IMO. AA shouldn't be a reserve roster for AAA which is being used as a reserve roster for BBA.

[aaronweiner]

There are 28 pitchers in free agency under the age of 21. So there's enough to fill out even rookie ball squads. They're not gonna be good, but they're arms. In almost all cases they will be better than pitching position players. Once short A and Rookie leagues start you'll see even more players when teams make roster cuts. You've also got at an IC to draw pitchers from.

Less interested in filling rookie ball squads, more interested in AA.

But I see your point - it just doesn't match mine.

It's hard to find an ideal solution, but I think this fixes the larger issue of fielding a competitive team. I think filling out rookie ball is more important than finding non-prospect 27 year-olds in AA. Teams should be building farm systems that can hold 23-25 year olds in AA IMO. AA shouldn't be a reserve roster for AAA which is being used as a reserve roster for BBA.

That is a philosophical difference, and sensible minds can agree to disagree on that one. Like me! I'm agreeing to disagree.

Besides, it's stupid easy to fill rookie ball - you can literally do that with anyone. I do like the idea of 11 pitchers (or even more!) but the problem I have is not the number of pitchers but combining that with the age restriction.

[GoldenOne]

Does that not happen in MLB? Is there not "reserve" roster spots in AAA? Its obviously not the whole team, but there is definitely a mix there. And that just means there are/could be AAA-ready guys that are pushed down to AA.

I agree with Aaron that the two rules do not necessarily work in harmony.

[jiminyhopkins]