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Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:56 pm
by recte44
These are the same rules we have always had. I don't see any reason not to move forward. Ye Olde Commish has ruled
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BBA News: Rule 5 Draft: Brewster Baseball Association's Rule 5 draft will be held today. General managers should ensure that they have made all necessary roster moves prior to the start of the draft!
Rule 5 Draft Rules
--Only teams with empty slots on their expanded rosters can select a player in the draft.
--Players with more than 3 years of professional experience are eligible to be selected, unless they are protected on a team's expanded roster.
--Players drafted at the age of 18 or younger are protected for one additional year. They are eligible if they have more than 4 years of professional service.
--Each selected player must be kept on the selecting team's major league roster for the entire year, or be returned to his original team.
--Even if a selected player is subsequently traded, he must remain on that team's major league roster for the entire year.
Note: Eligible players are noted on the team transaction screen with a "#" symbol.
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:00 pm
by bschr682
Going forward will you keep the rule 5 in January so that this becomes the norm?
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:30 pm
by recte44
yes
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:16 pm
by crobillard
Cool. Seems like a better solution than trying to roll everything back. That shit seems impossible.
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:32 am
by felipe
damn...now I have to go through the draft pool, and clear some 40 man space...
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 9:23 am
by indiansfan
Could be a great waiver wire for rebuilding teams.
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:38 pm
by bschr682
Ooo the more I look at this the more I like it. Its gonna be a bit harder to play the suppress the clock game and maybe drafting that super raw 19 year old becomes a dicey proposition...
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:47 pm
by niles08
I think this is excellent for the league personally. I felt I could hold down players and never really had an issue with calling up someone in the past when they did become eligible because they were typically completely ready. I like this alot.
Just for the record, I am just loading up to export so havent actually seen the change this is going to cause for me.
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:17 pm
by bschr682
niles08 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:47 pm
I think this is excellent for the league personally. I felt I could hold down players and never really had an issue with calling up someone in the past when they did become eligible because they were typically completely ready. I like this alot.
Just for the record, I am just loading up to export so havent actually seen the change this is going to cause for me.
Its Dooley time...
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 3:55 pm
by niles08
bschr682 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 2:17 pm
niles08 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:47 pm
I think this is excellent for the league personally. I felt I could hold down players and never really had an issue with calling up someone in the past when they did become eligible because they were typically completely ready. I like this alot.
Just for the record, I am just loading up to export so havent actually seen the change this is going to cause for me.
Its Dooley time...
It was before hand lol his stuff finally jumped from 4 to 5 so it's time to run him out there!
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 4:59 pm
by RonCo
bschr682 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 1:38 pm
Ooo the more I look at this the more I like it. Its gonna be a bit harder to play the suppress the clock game and maybe drafting that super raw 19 year old becomes a dicey proposition...
Do you mean the drop to three years? If I'm right, this is a bug in OOTP...so there's every likelihood that it will change.
It's also not how baseball itself works (hence the expectation that this is a bug). If OOTP changes the Rule 5 throughout the OOTP world to be three years (four for younger players) rather than four/five they will piss off a whole lot of baseball fans.
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:02 pm
by recte44
From Last Years Rule 5 Draft:
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BBA News: Rule 5 Draft:
Brewster Baseball Association's Rule 5 draft will be held today. General managers should ensure that they have made all necessary roster moves prior to the start of the draft!
Rule 5 Draft Rules
--Only teams with empty slots on their expanded rosters can select a player in the draft.
--Players with more than 3 years of professional experience are eligible to be selected, unless they are protected on a team's expanded roster.
--Players drafted at the age of 18 or younger are protected for one additional year. They are eligible if they have more than 4 years of professional service.
--Each selected player must be kept on the selecting team's major league roster for the entire year, or be returned to his original team.
--Even if a selected player is subsequently traded, he must remain on that team's major league roster for the entire year.
Note: Eligible players are noted on the team transaction screen with a "#" symbol.
From This Years Rule 5 Draft:
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BBA News: Rule 5 Draft:
Brewster Baseball Association's Rule 5 draft will be held today. General managers should ensure that they have made all necessary roster moves prior to the start of the draft!
Rule 5 Draft Rules
--Only teams with empty slots on their expanded rosters can select a player in the draft.
--Players with more than 3 years of professional experience are eligible to be selected, unless they are protected on a team's expanded roster.
--Players drafted at the age of 18 or younger are protected for one additional year. They are eligible if they have more than 4 years of professional service.
--Each selected player must be kept on the selecting team's major league roster for the entire year, or be returned to his original team.
--Even if a selected player is subsequently traded, he must remain on that team's major league roster for the entire year.
Note: Eligible players are noted on the team transaction screen with a "#" symbol.
I'm failing to see how this changed.
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:03 pm
by RonCo
FYI - I've altered the Constitution to reflect this change.
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:12 pm
by RonCo
recte44 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:02 pm
From Last Years Rule 5 Draft:
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BBA News: Rule 5 Draft:
Brewster Baseball Association's Rule 5 draft will be held today. General managers should ensure that they have made all necessary roster moves prior to the start of the draft!
Rule 5 Draft Rules
--Only teams with empty slots on their expanded rosters can select a player in the draft.
--Players with more than 3 years of professional experience are eligible to be selected, unless they are protected on a team's expanded roster.
--Players drafted at the age of 18 or younger are protected for one additional year. They are eligible if they have more than 4 years of professional service.
--Each selected player must be kept on the selecting team's major league roster for the entire year, or be returned to his original team.
--Even if a selected player is subsequently traded, he must remain on that team's major league roster for the entire year.
Note: Eligible players are noted on the team transaction screen with a "#" symbol.
From This Years Rule 5 Draft:
Off Topic
BBA News: Rule 5 Draft:
Brewster Baseball Association's Rule 5 draft will be held today. General managers should ensure that they have made all necessary roster moves prior to the start of the draft!
Rule 5 Draft Rules
--Only teams with empty slots on their expanded rosters can select a player in the draft.
--Players with more than 3 years of professional experience are eligible to be selected, unless they are protected on a team's expanded roster.
--Players drafted at the age of 18 or younger are protected for one additional year. They are eligible if they have more than 4 years of professional service.
--Each selected player must be kept on the selecting team's major league roster for the entire year, or be returned to his original team.
--Even if a selected player is subsequently traded, he must remain on that team's major league roster for the entire year.
Note: Eligible players are noted on the team transaction screen with a "#" symbol.
I'm failing to see how this changed.
I don't mean to be a jerk here. I see your note, and I see the note in the email the game sends me. But I also know the following things:
1) The MLB rule is 4/5
2) If OOTP did 3/4 as a default, the world would be afire.
3) I can find threads from OOTP that suggest this is a bug
4) I have guys (Roberto Fernandez is one) who just became Rule 5 eligible this year. He has 5 seasons of pro experience, hence had four last year...so under the 3/4 concept, would have been eligible last year if the game was working this way.
5) Our constitution itself was 4/5 until a minute ago!
So, whatever...
I am 100% fine with whatever the game/league does, but unless I've gone completely insane (always possible, I suppose), this has actually changed.
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:31 pm
by RonCo
And, again, maybe I'm insane...but I can't recall a year where 80% of my AA and A ball team rosters are eligible...or 50% or so of my short A players.
So whatever it is, _something_ is different.
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:54 pm
by handaspencer
Help me understand, I have not been following much today. I thought losing the year was due to Recte changing the rule 5 from December to January. But know I see it’s an ootp bug. Which one is it?
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:10 pm
by recte44
I don’t think it’s either
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:23 pm
by bschr682
Is it maybe something like OOTP's rule 5 settings are just not built to handle the rule 5 being in the beginning of the year instead of the end? As in technically it views this as the 2041 rule 5 draft instead of the 2040 rule 5 draft and at the end of the 2041 season all these guys that we think shouldn't be eligible for this current draft would have been eligible had the draft been next December?
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:37 pm
by handaspencer
I understood Rons frustration on this. It don’t impact me personally because I have no depth it will probably actually benefit me. But this certainly had a big impact on the deeper teams and this came upon them without warning so they have reason to be frustrated. I am having trouble understanding why we would make this change and not remain under the module of 4/5 and why we are changing something that was against the constitution at the time of the change.
Re: Rule 5 Draft Continues as Planned
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 8:35 pm
by RonCo
The issue is that it's not a change in settings, so is nothing Matt had done... even taking into account the movement of date.
To be clear though, I'm fine with the situation. I just want to be clear it's a change.