UMEBA $40 million salary cap

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UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by johnd2442 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:12 pm

Hi all, I hope you can help a new guy here. I notice that the UMEBA has a salary cap of $40 million. I was wondering how this was enforced...or if it was? I saw in the constitution that the BBA salary cap of $100 or so million is enforced, but couldn't find anything regarding the UMEBA's cap...or too many UMEBA rules in general. Just hoping for a wee bit of guidance.

And I thank the new Beirut Cedars GM @ca13 for his comment on Slack to make me think of this.
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by Lane » Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:47 pm

Like the BBA cap of $110, it's enforced outside of the game by GMs/GB
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by johnd2442 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:18 pm

Lane wrote:
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Like the BBA cap of $110, it's enforced outside of the game by GMs/GB
Big help, thank you. Looks like I have some work to do with my cap.
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

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johnd2442 wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 5:12 pm
Hi all, I hope you can help a new guy here. I notice that the UMEBA has a salary cap of $40 million. I was wondering how this was enforced...or if it was? I saw in the constitution that the BBA salary cap of $100 or so million is enforced, but couldn't find anything regarding the UMEBA's cap...or too many UMEBA rules in general. Just hoping for a wee bit of guidance.

And I thank the new Beirut Cedars GM @ca13 for his comment on Slack to make me think of this.

I think it's in the rules if you go $1 above the cap all future draft picks for the next draft are given to the highest team, ranked alphabetically so a team beginning with A well who would have thought Athens :D
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by johnd2442 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:21 pm

I don't like that rule! Where's the damn thumbs down button?
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by johnd2442 » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:34 pm

So, I'm noticing that my owner has allowed for a budget of $45 million. That obviously doesn't equal out to the $40 million cap. Is that extra $5 million allowing me to go over the cap simply for guys I want to cut but have to eat their contract? Something like that?
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by Lane » Wed Apr 08, 2020 8:35 pm

That, and bonuses, and staff
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by ca13 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:08 am

If this is a stupid question, sorry. What number do we use for the cap? If I look at the League Financial Report, from UMEBA>Reports & Info, we're all under the cap currently. I think this is the number being used when I try to sign a player and it tells me my current cap space. But if you look at the total on the Front Office > salaries for an individual team, we appear to have a couple teams over. Which are we using? If this has been asked before, I'm sorry. I couldn't find anything in the constitution about it.

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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by usnspecialist » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:20 am

Lane wrote:
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https://statspl.us/brewster/finance/current
just for clarification, it is the payroll number here (far left column) that is what matters. That needs to be below $40m for UMEBA ($110m for BBA).

EDIT: this differs from the number on your salary page in game because you only pay 1/6th of the salary listed for the guys in your minors.
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by johnd2442 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:59 am

I"m wondering, in the game, when I'm looking at Front Office>Salaries, that seems to be focusing on the 40 man roster salaries. On the Stats+ page, maybe that is just the 27 man big league roster? Could that be the difference of the salaries?

That is fascinating on the 1/6th salary that is paid to the guys in the minors. I would love to know the history behind that decision as an observer, just to know what went into it. From what little I know about you guys in this league, that speaks to a lot of OOTP experience with the game.
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by usnspecialist » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:01 am

johnd2442 wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:59 am
I"m wondering, in the game, when I'm looking at Front Office>Salaries, that seems to be focusing on the 40 man roster salaries. On the Stats+ page, maybe that is just the 27 man big league roster? Could that be the difference of the salaries?

That is fascinating on the 1/6th salary that is paid to the guys in the minors. I would love to know the history behind that decision as an observer, just to know what went into it. From what little I know about you guys in this league, that speaks to a lot of OOTP experience with the game.
i am pretty sure anyone on your 40 man draws a salary of some kind, but for those in the minors you get 1/6th charged to you. You do not have to pay for everyone in your organization.
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by ca13 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:08 am

johnd2442 wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:59 am
I"m wondering, in the game, when I'm looking at Front Office>Salaries, that seems to be focusing on the 40 man roster salaries. On the Stats+ page, maybe that is just the 27 man big league roster? Could that be the difference of the salaries?

That is fascinating on the 1/6th salary that is paid to the guys in the minors. I would love to know the history behind that decision as an observer, just to know what went into it. From what little I know about you guys in this league, that speaks to a lot of OOTP experience with the game.
Reading the fine print on the Front Office > salaries page. " * players in minors on minimum league deals are only paid 16.5 percent of their salary while in the minors"

So I think that explains the difference in numbers. Started talking to Randy about this after he started posting and that's what he pointed out to me. So that's the difference. The Front Office > salaries page gives the total salaries of the 40 man roster. But the Umeba > reports & info > finances report > payroll (same as what is in stats plus) just lists total current payroll, which can be less if some of those minor league deals on the 40 man roster are in the minors only making a portion of their salary.

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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by johnd2442 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:12 am

I often need things explained to me like I'm a five year old. And even then, I need to go over it about ten times. But this makes a ton of sense now.

I just wonder if that 1/6th (or 16.5%) was a difficult number to arrive at. It is pretty interesting how well thought out the UMEBA is.
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by usnspecialist » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:37 am

johnd2442 wrote:
Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:12 am
I often need things explained to me like I'm a five year old. And even then, I need to go over it about ten times. But this makes a ton of sense now.

I just wonder if that 1/6th (or 16.5%) was a difficult number to arrive at. It is pretty interesting how well thought out the UMEBA is.
worth noting that the 16.5% is also a BBA thing, and might even be an OOTP thing in general.
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by Fat Nige » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:39 pm

I think the 16.5% thing has always been in OOTP, as far as I can remember. I don't think it's anything we fix as a league
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by johnd2442 » Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:00 pm

Maybe now I realize why some of my minor league guys are unhappy. They're not getting all of their pay!

Where is that all going? Is my assistant GM taking some of that money? Is that why he's never around to help me?
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by Fat Nige » Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:07 pm

Must be a bummer to sign up for a million and then find out the team’s only coughing up $165,000
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by usnspecialist » Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:38 pm

you might be paying it all but it might not count against the cap.
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Re: UMEBA $40 million salary cap

Post by Dington » Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:47 pm

So if I'm up against the cap, in a last ditch effort to get under, I can send a high priced player to AAA to get under the cap?
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